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bluerocker posted:Is Gottfried a big Metal Gear fan, or is that just a REALLY good impersonator? Either way, I'm dying over here. It's from this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H3xQzQauyY e: Update probably tonight if I feel up to it. Definitely going to be splitting this up into several updates because holy crap are there a lot of NPCs and all of them interesting in one way or another and most of them likely have unique art I'll have to search around for. It's Mother 3 all over again. Mega64 fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Aug 5, 2015 |
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...Just for those expressions, all I can hear in my head now is a more articulate Team Fortress 2 Heavy for Steiner... Gary Schwartz?
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I spent way too much time looking for artwork for a random NPC that probably doesn't exist, so I'm gonna hold off on the update until tomorrow. I did find art of some NPCs in earlier updates I couldn't find earlier at least, so I may go back and replace a few pictures as necessary since why not. e: Went ahead and did it today. Only changes were the Ticket guy in Alexandria and the various NPCs in Dali, so nothing worth going back and rereading updates for. Should be a lot more consistent now at least. I'd definitely be fine doing more tweaking in the future if someone finds better matches for NPCs I may have overlooked. Also, this one is going to give me nightmares. 
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Fister Roboto posted:My family and I had a chance to see this when were in London ages ago, but my parents wanted to see Cats instead What was it like disowning your parents?
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Mega64 posted:Also, this one is going to give me nightmares. Is that what Gysahl Pickles do to you?!
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It's also what you end up looking like after working the fields in Dali. No wonder they jumped at the chance to change their vocations.
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MarquiseMindfang posted:Is that what Gysahl Pickles do to you?! If by "Gysahl Pickles" you mean having to give Queen Brahne a pedicure, then yes.
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    Yes, but...  I'm not surprised <gwok-gwok>. They loved each other so much... We haven't spoken much lately. Also, a suspicious man has been prowling around the castle. I don't know what's going on anymore... I fear that she might be planning something terrible. I've brought this matter to everybody's attention, but no one has taken me seriously. They all think I'm distraught over losing Father... At this point, I think you're the only person Mother will listen to... When I heard that Lindblum's theater ship was coming to Alexandria, I decided to sneak on board and come here no matter what. I just never expected the crew to kidnap me...  -----  We've known about the disturbances in Alexandria for some time. But had we acted directly, it would've started a war. So, I asked Baku for help. He and I go way back. We were <gwok> forced to take action, because we knew Alexandria would never seek our help. I'm relieved we were able to get you here.-----  On top of that, they were being created under Alexandria's supervision. I don't know how they're related to Vivi, but if Mother is planning to use them for war... We won't let that happen. Even if she were to command an army of black mages, she won't make a move as long as we have our airship fleet. Don't worry <gwok-gwok>. Everything will be fine. I'm so sorry, Uncle. Now, now, come on. Don't be so formal. Thank you so much.Dagger knows a lot more about what's going on than most people in her position probably would. As does Cid apparently. I also love how the ruler of probably the strongest nation in the world is buds with the head of a thieves' guild. Which, of course, comes in handy for delicate situations such as these.  The heart and soul of Lindblum: our airship dock. This is Dock No. 1, where we conduct our research <gwok>. But...where are the airships? We had a new airship model in here about 6 months ago. It was our latest creation: it didn't require Mist to fly.It's been established in various NPC dialogue, but all airships run on Mist, which is some mysterious fog that corrupts monsters and is generally unsafe to live in for video game reasons. Having an airship that doesn't run on Mist is a big deal, especially since only the continent we're currently on has Mist, meaning airships cannot access the world outside this continent. A Mist-free airship would allow access to the rest of an essentially unknown world, ushering in a new era of discovery for these nations. Too bad it's been stolen. The man who attacked you-was he the one who ran off with it?  When Hilda found out about my little affair, she used her magic and turned me into an oglop. Then she stormed off in the new airship, which I named Hilda Garde. Pretty ironic, eh?Yeah, one of the biggest technological achievements in this world's history was lost because Cid couldn't keep it in his pants. And no, despite the structure of the previous sentence I'm not referring to Cid's penis as a big technological achievement.  She hasn't been back since <gwok>. I'm hopeless... But that doesn't mean I can't help you. I'll do my best for Alexandria. Thank you... But with South Gate badly damaged, I don't know how we can get to Alexandria... Don't worry. South Gate is being repaired as we speak. Once the repairs are finished, we'll go to Alexandria. Yes. I'm sure Mother will finally open her eyes to the truth. Uncle, is something wrong? Huh? No, I was just thinking...about how the theater ship crashed. Baku sure has good men working under him...-----   Speaking of good men working under Baku, here's that jerk that quit the other day.   You're up early. Lindblum is really a busy place. I've never seen this many people before. I wonder where people go if they wanna be alone... Lindblum has always been like this. People come here from all over the world. Wow... I don't even remember why I came here my first time. Before I knew it, I was living here with my Tantalus brothers. Do they still live here? I'm gonna go there right now. Do you wanna come along? Um, that's okay. I'm gonna go look around town. Okay. Then I'll give you a little tour. ...No, that's okay. I can go by myself.Vivi understandably has no interest in Zidane giving him a tour of Lindblum's red light district.   So this is a great segue to talk about synthesis.    That's synthesis.  That's not until the very end of the game though so by the time that's relevant you'll have completely forgotten about it.    Your friend is starting a mini-theater? Sounds like fun, kupo!At least Ruby is taking the whole "abandoned by her friends" thing in stride.    So, as you probably expect by now, there's a ton of little details in Lindblum.  The thing is, this place is huge. There's three districts, with this one being five or so hub screens connecting to various locations. In fact, there's so much in this district that I'll only be showing this one off this update.  But first, let's get our fill of Steiner antics.    Geez... You're dressed awful funny. ...I am Captain Adelbert Steiner of Alexandria, and I humbly request your assistance to get back to the castle. Ha-ha-ha! That's a new one! You should really scrape that rust off. It's disgusting. Maybe Steiner could pick up some tips from Zidane in how to strike out in style.    I think you need a new line. A little shine wouldn't hurt, either. They're called gysahl pickles. They're one of Lindblum's delicacies. Do you wanna try one? ...It smells terrible! The worse they smell, the better they taste. I guess I'll try one. Oh, my. Even the locals don't eat them in one bite. Oh, Steiner.  I'm going to talk to every NPC in this part of the city. If you're not interested in NPC chatter, you'll probably want to skip to the end of the update since that's what most of this update will be.   When I grow up, I'm gonna fly with Papa. I can't wait.Her papa will actually come back in the middle of me faffing around this area, so we'll see the family reunited in just a bit.   Back in the old days, we had to walk all the way to the Theater District. I don't think I could ever walk that far anymore. I'd probably croak if I did.Also, we just met two NPCs named Elena and Locke, which are also the names of two characters from previous FF games, though neither NPC really matches the named character. I think they named these characters just to gently caress with my head.   Who do you think's gonna win? I'm puttin' my money on Ivan. Yeah, he's good, but I heard a female dragon knight's participating this year. I'll bet you two cheeseburgers Ivan's gonna win! Okay, you're on!Cheeseburgers are a thing that exist in Final Fantasy IX. Also, I can't see this conversation without thinking of an image from this Let's Play.  We can talk to the soldiers separately now, so I am going to do so because it's important for emotional context. You're entering the festival? Man, you're so lucky. Soldiers aren't allowed to participate. Are you ready for the festival? If you need to buy anything, you'd better take care of it now. All the shops are closed during the event.As you probably expected, despite Zidane saying he wasn't going to participate in the festival, Zidane is going to participate in the festival.   I'm trying to remember what I have to do!Talk to him again... Oh yeah!  The screen to the north is where Steiner was and is just another hub.   I demand the finest ingredients for all of my dishes. Gysahl pickles are good, but they smell really bad. What a bummer. I hate buying gifts... I was thinking of buying some oglop oil, but it's so disgusting. Let's check out the house right next to us.  Nope.  Seems Cid also owns a publishing house whose work includes card magazines. Makes sense.  There's a bird house inside this clock. Yet another meaningless stupid detail that adds charm to this game.  There's more flavor stuff to the north.   My father gets injured every year.  It's been here since before the city was even built, when this entire area was a forest. I don't know why, but this church began the Festival of the Hunt tradition.Next to us is a church. Since this is a Final Fantasy game, it must be run by someone evil.  Nah, this is actually one of those rare jRPGs where religion is just there as more flavor. Let's go bother the people praying.     I swear! She sleeps everywhere.  Cid I built this church to pass on the tradition of the festival.  It is a way of life. It draws on your deepest strength and redefines courage. Be aware.So releasing a bunch of monsters in the city that could potentially kill innocent citizens just so people can kill the monsters is closely tied to this region's religion. Sounds about right.   The tradition of the festival began around that time. I half-wish all the NPCs simply barked.   Next up is this section where all the shops are.   I'm gonna win for sure. I'm carrying a lot of nice pots right now.  This is the weapon store, of course.   Let's go to another store. In a minute. Geez...   This is a reference to that most famous of Final Fantasy characters, Shadow the Hedgehog.   Pretty much everything we could've stolen by now is available for purchase. There's also a couple new items. Freya can use the Javelin, of course, while the Fork...uh, sure, okay, whatever.  The only new item armor-wise is the Headgear, which teaches Undead Killer. Undead Killer's not as useful as the others because generally stuff like Cure and Fire make short work of them anyway, but it's the only ability so far that takes up only two ability stones, so if you've got some left over it certainly doesn't hurt having.  Next up, this store.   I think Softs are new. They cure petrification, including the gradual kind.   Not too much to this place.  A theater ship blew up and crashed in Alexandria. There's been a lot of commotion in Alexandria lately.One more place to stop by.  How many times do I have to tell you? A few degrees can make the difference between a good weapon and a bad one.  When is he gonna get it through his head...?  First off, apparently these two characters are named after characters in Parasite Eve. I've never played that game, so use your imagination to establish a connection between the two universes. It'll surely be better than The After Years. So, the Synthesis shop. This place is a bit different from your usual shop in that you need two items and some cash to create a new item. The stuff here is really nice, with both thief weapons being a step up from the Mythril Knives we have. This is also the first place we can actually buy accessories.  These Cotton Robes sell for a pretty penny. You may understand now why I bought 99 Wrists earlier. I'm not going to do much synthesis yet because I just have Zidane. I'll hold off on the two weapons because I still have to learn Bandit first.   While a Yellow Scarf would teach some handy new abilities, I'd have to give up a Feather Hat, which you can't buy in Lindblum it seems, and right now the only one I have is on Zidane's head since there's no one else in the party. I'll pick it up later, but the Glass Buckle will do for now. Gives some nice stat boosts too.    Free stuff!  I had them make it out of a frying pan.Alright, that's it for this area. Let's head back where we began.   Really? How was South Gate? It was bad. I think it'll take a while to repair it. I made a traditional Festival of the Hunt dish. I don't know if it's good, but I made plenty of it! Hey, don't you think my papa's cool? He rides in an airship called the Viltgance. Finally, let's go south.   Thirty minutes! Man, I can't stand these walls! If only I had an airship...Man, Red Mages are such entitled babies in this game.  You can enter Lindblum by foot here or through the Dragon's Gate. Normally, we keep the Dragon's Gate closed because it's under the Mist, where a bunch of monsters lurk. I don't know why he became a soldier. He should've been a tour guide instead.  There are so many more shops here than there are in my hometown.  If you leave, you go to the world map, though up here there's nothing to do.  Well, besides meet whatever this goofy enemy is next to the spider.  It's the rare breed that's simultaneously cute and ugly.  Let's close out the update by checking in with another character, and for once, it's not Steiner.   I think I'll buy one...  It looks like the sesame buns that Grandpa used to make. Wow, there's gonna be a festival! Oh, are you friends with the moogles? Huh? Oh. I didn't know that. I think that's the last one... Go ahead, honey. It's on me. Really!? Thank you! Kupo Nuts are a bit of a side thing of the whole moogle quest line. Moogles really love these things.  Well, we let a bunch of animals loose and... (Oh, there's gonna be a lot of animals.)   Oh, Vivi.  Next time, we'll visit the rest of the city and maybe do some light plot stuff. Mega64 fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Aug 9, 2015 |
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Also, shameless plug: My Mother 3 Let's Play hit the LP Archive today.
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Mega64 posted:Dagger knows a lot more about what's going on than most people in her position probably would. As does Cid apparently. I also love how the ruler of probably the strongest nation in the world is buds with the head of a thieves' guild. Which, of course, comes in handy for delicate situations such as these. Mega64 posted:
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Mega64 posted:Also, shameless plug: My Mother 3 Let's Play hit the LP Archive today. I had an inkling on what you were doing with all those Wrists, I never thought of that idea before! That's BRILLIANT! I think for most people that Lindblum is one of their fave places to be in the game just because it has always such life in it.
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Cmon game, stop making me feel bad for Vivi. He just wants to enjoy the animals, not get attacked by savage monsters. This is getting mean.
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Keldulas posted:Cmon game, stop making me feel bad for Vivi. He just wants to enjoy the animals, not get attacked by savage monsters. This is getting mean. I like to think Vivi pissed off a gypsy and the first 3 discs are revenge.
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Mega64 posted:
OK, so Vivi at least has some memories of a grandfather, so I'm guessing magical golem/clone/robot is not a part of his history. He's by far the most interesting character in this story so far. I'm really rooting for him to turn out OK.
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FinalGamer posted:Sweet! Also it's not Wayne and Torres being referenced from Parasite Eve, but they even have a similar argument over superior weaponry except for in Eve it was guns of course. Yeah, I knew about this trick, but I never thought of applying it so early in the game. I have only done it much later when world travel gets unlocked.
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I'm just gonna go ahead and say all those wrists are indeed neccessary.
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About the wrists: Game makers goofed the pricing of an item. You can buy wrists + another component, synth a robe out of them, and sell the result for more gil than the components/synth costs. Infinite gil. E: ^^^^Misread that. Thought you were asking if they were necessary, as in asking what they were for. But I guess nobody has really stated what they were for yet, unless I just missed it.
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Sum Mors posted:E: ^^^^Misread that. Thought you were asking if they were necessary, as in asking what they were for. But I guess nobody has really stated what they were for yet, unless I just missed it. We really haven't yet. Many people (myself included) have been alluding to their true purpose since Mega bought them. I WAS gonna make a post detailing the specifics (and all the math) but I edited my post several times backpedaling on it. Because I dun want make Mega explode in disappointments.
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I never knew about the cotton robe trick before this LP. Actually kinda bummed now that my replay's already at Dark City Treno.
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I'm surprised that not more games has used ATE's when it's such a neat way to show what other characters are up to.
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Fun fact: when you're running him around town, Zidane will turn his head to ogle any pretty girls he passes by. The best example is the redhead who wanders around in the shopping square, you'll see a lot of her if you do the cotton robe trick often.
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Dastardly posted:I'm surprised that not more games has used ATE's when it's such a neat way to show what other characters are up to. Aside from that though it is a pity that storytelling in gaming doesn't do this as often as it did back then.
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EponymousMrYar posted:There is some finickyness to the system, mainly that you can only view one ATE per screen when they pop up. Some ATE's only pop up for a single screen and I remember one case where this led to a pair of ATE's that were mutually exclusive. It annoyed me to no end. There is only one time that I can think of where you can't see all available ATEs depending on your choice of them (separate from leaving a screen and thus losing out on the opportunity), and in that circumstance, only one of them comes with a reward/is plot related, so missing the others doesn't lock you out of anything at least.
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FF9 is so amazing it references a Final Fantasy game that hadn't come out yet.
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Fister Roboto posted:Fun fact: when you're running him around town, Zidane will turn his head to ogle any pretty girls he passes by. The best example is the redhead who wanders around in the shopping square, you'll see a lot of her if you do the cotton robe trick often. And not just attractive females too. He tracks pretty much any female NPC (well, maybe not little girls, since that would be creepy, but I can't recall if he does or not), even fat and/or old ones, and even ladies of different races (I'm pretty sure I've seen him ogle rat ladies). Zidane leers at ladies of all walks. 
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I'm kind of surprised you didn't get the double-bladed swords, I always grabbed them because even the weaker of the two is a huge upgrade over the single dagger.
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Bad Seafood posted:I dunno if you skipped over this by accident or just didn't know about it, but you can actually talk to Wayne behind the counter. He has things to say beyond just offering you his services! Must've forgotten to do that. With so much stuff going on it's inevitable I'll miss something. I'll try to show that off later if possible. U.T. Raptor posted:I'm kind of surprised you didn't get the double-bladed swords, I always grabbed them because even the weaker of the two is a huge upgrade over the single dagger. I plan to get them after the Festival of the Hunt, when we have an actual party to stock items for. As for the Cotton Robe trick, that's one of a few things I've learned by doing some research before starting this LP (that's right, I'm actually reading up on my poo poo for once). By the time I got to the Ice Cavern I had close to 20k gil somehow anyway, so might as well make money trivial for the entire game since buying stuff for synthesis can get drat pricey.
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Dastardly posted:I'm surprised that not more games has used ATE's when it's such a neat way to show what other characters are up to. They are basically more animated skits from the Tales games. Unfortunately FFs after this had voice acting and became really stingy with incidental character development. Although to be fair, judging from the audio compression in XII, it might have been more of a technical issue than Square being too cheap to pay for the voice acting.
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Mega64 posted:As for the Cotton Robe trick, that's one of a few things I've learned by doing some research before starting this LP (that's right, I'm actually reading up on my poo poo for once). By the time I got to the Ice Cavern I had close to 20k gil somehow anyway, so might as well make money trivial for the entire game since buying stuff for synthesis can get drat pricey. Trust me, I've hit Disk 2 at this point and my god, poo poo gets expensive when you're buying like six to sixteen of things in the weapons shop because stock changes around all the time  and there's poo poo that you get like one or two chances to a. buy and b. BUY ALL THE THINGS OF THAT THING BECAUSE IT WILL BE GONE BY THE TIME YOU REACH THE NEXT loving TOWN. This is one game I recommend keeping an online guide open for at all times. Just to make sure you're not about to leave that one-time shop item behind and won't have enough for synthysis..
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The problem with the cotton robe trick is that up until disc 3, you only ever have access to either wrists or steepled hats, but not both. So it takes a bit of foresight, and you're very limited in how often you can do it. But it does trivialize money until that point anyway.U.T. Raptor posted:I'm kind of surprised you didn't get the double-bladed swords, I always grabbed them because even the weaker of the two is a huge upgrade over the single dagger. They also use a special damage formula that potentially makes them better, and there's one other thing to them that Mega hasn't shown yet.
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Things do get really expensive towards end of Disc 2 and into Disc 3, so having previously done the trick helps matters enormously, particularly with changing shop inventories and other missables. But yeah on Disc 1 and most of Disc 2, the trick is unnecessary.
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Mega64 posted:I plan to get them after the Festival of the Hunt, when we have an actual party to stock items for. Seems brave to me, I had to retry the Festival of the Hunt due to lacking the damage output with Zidane. Good luck though!
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Mr.Tophat posted:Seems brave to me, I had to retry the Festival of the Hunt due to lacking the damage output with Zidane. Good luck though! Don't you get better prizes if Zidane loses?
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All this Wrist-planning etc. makes me wonder how I'd play the game unspoiled. I only ever did it with a guide, because I had read the other LP beforehand anyway. But there's a lot of poo poo to miss, actually pretty important poo poo - as has just been said, it's entirely possible to go "uh I'll buy this later" and then you lose access to the store...forever. And lose out on a possible synthesis item later. I should get someone who doesn't know the game to replay it with me and make the decisions...
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Simply Simon posted:But there's a lot of poo poo to miss Including a sidequest that wasn't discovered until 13 years after the game's release.
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When I first played this game years ago, it was completely unspoiled and without any kind of guide. This resulted in me barreling through the main story and completely missing out on, I dunno, possibly more than half the sidequests in the entire game? And also being way too underleveled to actually beat the game without significant challenge. But to be honest, given that I'd otherwise always played games with strategy guides from start to finish and obsessed over missing out on even the tiniest thing, I consider it to the game's credit that the story engrossed me so much that I ignored pretty much everything else just to see how it all unfolded. To this day I consider 9 my favorite Final Fantasy right after 12. That being said, my need to catch every last missable thing (except Excalibur II, gently caress that noise) is what's kept me from giving FF9 a proper replay, especially now that I know exactly how much stuff there is to miss. So I'm really loving this LP, keep up the great work!
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