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ZIGfried posted:Pulling my hair out over a keeper decision. Wait, you can keep both guys for one 8th round pick? Or you can keep both for an 8th and a 10th? Well, anyways they are both gong for a lot higher than 8th round picks so you keep both. Unless you're playing in something like an 8 team league.
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jabro posted:Wait, you can keep both guys for one 8th round pick? Or you can keep both for an 8th and a 10th? Well, anyways they are both gong for a lot higher than 8th round picks so you keep both. Unless you're playing in something like an 8 team league. ZIGfried posted:Choice is between Travis Kelce or Joseph Randle both costing a 10th rounder. Both can be kept one more year for an 8th. He needs to pick one of the two. Either one would cost an 8th rounder. I vote Randle but like you said it could become a disaster if they sign someone and he loses the starter job.
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RCarr posted:He needs to pick one of the two. Either one would cost an 8th rounder. Then what does his second sentence mean then? Edit: Nevermind, he can keep whoever for an extra year by jumping up their round to the 8th. He threw me off with the both can be kept part. jabro fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Aug 7, 2015 |
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jabro posted:Wait, you can keep both guys for one 8th round pick? Or you can keep both for an 8th and a 10th? Well, anyways they are both gong for a lot higher than 8th round picks so you keep both. Unless you're playing in something like an 8 team league. I get two keepers, Jeremy Hill for a ninth is pretty much written in stone. My other keeper will be Randle or Kelce for a tenth. My keepers this year are eligible to be kept just one more year at a cost of two rounds earlier than this year. Hope that clears it up!
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ZIGfried posted:Choice is between Travis Kelce or Joseph Randle both costing a 10th rounder. Both can be kept one more year for an 8th. Kelce because he is good while Randle is not
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ZIGfried posted:I get two keepers, Jeremy Hill for a ninth is pretty much written in stone. My other keeper will be Randle or Kelce for a tenth. My keepers this year are eligible to be kept just one more year at a cost of two rounds earlier than this year. Hope that clears it up! I got it after I decided to comprehend what I was reading. They are both going for around the same in ADP. I'd say Kelce since like previously mentioned he has talent. Kelce is the safe choice and Randle is the swing for the fences for a homerun but probably will strikeout choice.
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ZIGfried posted:Pulling my hair out over a keeper decision. Kelce has zero competition, has looked great in camp, is committed to being "the guy" through the air. Between him and Jamaal Charles they will constitute the vast majority of offense that can be squeezed out of Popgun Smith DAL front office doesn't hold Randle in high regard. Their plan this year was to use as much of a committee as DMC's health would allow and address deficiencies in the draft (didn't happen) and free agency (major wildcard). roto posted:Cowboys VP Stephen Jones is leaving the door open for the team to add a free agent running back if needed. No one is discounting that whoever RBs at DAL will be running behind a top-3 line, but that "whoever" is extremely shaky and may consist of multiple bodies being thrown at the defense. As someone else mentioned, you could strike gold but the safe money is on Kelce. Suave Fedora fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Aug 7, 2015 |
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I would pick Kelce. Cowboys are one FA signing away from rendering Randle to the bench.
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Metapod posted:Kelce because he is good while Randle is not This and it's not close.
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If any of you were dumb enough to draft the 49ers DST, Aldon Smith was arrested for various naughty things.
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Franks Happy Place posted:Hope you all own John Brown shares already. FYI - this was downgraded to just dislocated fingers. He'll be ready for Week 1 now.
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Thwomp posted:FYI - this was downgraded to just dislocated fingers. He'll be ready for Week 1 now. Fingers so dislocated the bone popped through the skin and required surgery to repair. loving ouch.
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Prophecy120 posted:Fingers so dislocated the bone popped through the skin and required surgery to repair. loving ouch. so what is that? Compound dislocation?
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:If any of you were dumb enough to draft the 49ers DST, Aldon Smith was arrested for various naughty things. I hope my employers will constantly look the other way if I ever decided to be a piece of poo poo.
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ZIGfried posted:Pulling my hair out over a keeper decision. How big are your balls? Kelce is safer but Randle will outright win you the league if he pans out.
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Fight Club Sandwich posted:How big are your balls? Kelce is safer but Randle will outright win you the league if he pans out. I'd much rather take the risk:reward of Randle in the 10th than Kelce. If it were only a 6th or 7th round, I'd definitely go Kelce.
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I love how Kelce is a "safe" pick. Alex Smith can't throw a seam route to save his life and Charles will get 85% of the dump-off looks. Kelce is going to have a nice mediocre 60-600-5 season and I'm going to loving laugh and laugh and laugh. He's so talented but I have seen nothing to think that they're going to utilize him in a way that actually promotes that talent. He's going to spend 2015 running roughshod over linebackers while Jamaal Charles gobbles all the touches and Alex Smith panics and ponders over his tiny hands. TEs are dumb guys for real
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Dandy Kaiser posted:I love how Kelce is a "safe" pick. Alex Smith can't throw a seam route to save his life and Charles will get 85% of the dump-off looks. Kelce is going to have a nice mediocre 60-600-5 season and I'm going to loving laugh and laugh and laugh. Kelce is really good after the catch
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I still doubt he sees over 100 targets, honestly. And of those, I doubt that more than 75 are legitimately catchable. I'm willing to bet he doesn't clear 70 catches. e: If he gets over 170 pts in a PPR, 10yd/pt league, I will pen a 2,000 word essay to the majesty that is Andy Reid's mustache. Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Aug 7, 2015 |
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Dandy Kaiser posted:I still doubt he sees over 100 targets, honestly. And of those, I doubt that more than 75 are legitimately catchable. I'm willing to bet he doesn't clear 70 catches. In his rookie year he caught 66-of-71 catchable passes last season.
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jabro posted:In his rookie year he caught 66-of-71 catchable passes last season. So, maintaining that ratio, in order to have 70 catches, he needs to be thrown 75 catchable balls.
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All I'm saying is y'all can chase that Brent Celek usage dragon all you want. I've seen enough of Andy Reid's bullshit and Alex Smith's inefficiency to stay as far the gently caress away from that poo poo as possible. If I had Kelce as a keeper in the mid-to-low teens, then yeah why not, but otherwise I'm pressing sell and hard. e: I also think that Randle is a much better keeper because there are no FA backs out there that are really that good enough to relegate Randle to a purely reserve role. He's going to get his, behind a very good line. Getting a guy like that in the 10th or whatever, really allows you to pursue a legit 0RB if you really want to because you can plug him into your RB2 slot pretty much all season. Tight Ends are stupid, don't keep them. Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Aug 7, 2015 |
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:If any of you were dumb enough to draft the 49ers DST, Aldon Smith was arrested for various naughty things. God loving dammit  I don't even care about him for fantasy, I don't have him on any team right now. It's just... poo poo, what a waste of talent. If he gets less than a year's suspension I'll be surprised. And the Niners just cannot catch a goddamn break this offseason. Wow.
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Dandy Kaiser posted:I love how Kelce is a "safe" pick. Alex Smith can't throw a seam route to save his life and Charles will get 85% of the dump-off looks. Kelce is going to have a nice mediocre 60-600-5 season and I'm going to loving laugh and laugh and laugh. Kelce is "safe" because you can drop him in your TE slot and forget about him until KC's bye. His snaps were capped because of Fasano but now he's likely to be a top 5 TE on the season Randle is relatively riskier since he can be put into RBCC or worse the Cowboys could sign Bradshaw/another FA. He could either be an elite RB for the season or not worth rostering before opening kickoff that being said, agree TEs suck and OP is a huge pussy if he keeps Kelce over Randle
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Fight Club Sandwich posted:he's likely to be a top 5 TE on the season If you're not Gronk, top-5 TE means "slightly above replacement level" quote:that being said, agree TEs suck and OP is a huge pussy if he keeps Kelce over Randle yase
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Fight Club Sandwich posted:How big are your balls? Kelce is safer but Randle will outright win you the league if he pans out. I'd argue that kelce possesses more league winning potential than randle while being safer.
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Kelce did almost nothing in the 2nd half of last year, correct? He had a few big games early on, but from what I remember he was pretty average the rest of the year. It was obvious that he's not being used to his potential, and I don't know if that's going to change.
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RCarr posted:Kelce did almost nothing in the 2nd half of last year, correct? He had a few big games early on, but from what I remember he was pretty average the rest of the year. Yes shortly after picking up Kelce in waivers he did nothing. You're welcome.
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Dandy Kaiser posted:e: I also think that Randle is a much better keeper because there are no FA backs out there that are really that good enough to relegate Randle to a purely reserve role. He's going to get his, behind a very good line. Getting a guy like that in the 10th or whatever, really allows you to pursue a legit 0RB if you really want to because you can plug him into your RB2 slot pretty much all season. Tight Ends are stupid, don't keep them. I don't care how good that line is Randle is not a nfl starting hb and will be exposed
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My main league is a 10 man, 0.5 PPR league. 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1K, 1DL, 2LB, 1DB, and NO flex. So...JJ Watt a certifiable 2nd or...maybe even first rounder? 2014 DL Leaders: 01. JJ Watt - 246.55 02. Jason Pierre Paul - 125.75 03. Suh - 112.0 2013 DL Leaders: 01. JJ Watt - 158.75 02. Robert Quinn - 156.35 03. Chandler Jones - 116.50 JJ Watt just had a stupid crazy year last year and isn't sustainable to do it again, right? Dude was putting up RB1 numbers in the drat DL spot, wtf
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Metapod posted:I don't care how good that line is Randle is not a nfl starting hb and will be exposed Niether is Matt Asiata and he-- an RB2 for half the season behind a worse line, with less talent, in a piss-poor offense-- couldn't hold Randle's jock with stickum. He's going to get touches and they are going to lead to production. Even if he only gets 150 on the season, that's going to be enough for him to be a weekly flex play in 12+ team leagues.
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Marshmallow Blue posted:Yes shortly after picking up Kelce in waivers he did nothing. You're welcome. Did you pick him after week 15?
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I just looked it up. Kelce topped 10 points only 3 times after week 5. He had under 5 points 5 times in the same period. Non-ppr.
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Asiata was extremely reliant on touchdowns and was near unplayable most weeks and Randle isn't going to be a bell cow or get goalline carries. Just like asiata Randle will be a daily tournament winning play
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Metapod posted:Asiata was extremely reliant on touchdowns and was near unplayable most weeks and Randle isn't going to be a bell cow or get goalline carries. Just like asiata Randle will be a daily tournament winning play He still got 10 carries a game and Randle could manage a 3.5 YPC just by falling forward, so as long as there is usage, there will be points.
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89 posted:My main league is a 10 man, 0.5 PPR league. 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1K, 1DL, 2LB, 1DB, and NO flex. Watt could regress 20% and still blow DL#2 away by 50 points. He gives you better than Gronk positional advantage. He's legit 1st round value in your league, though you need to figure out if you can wait and nab him early 2nd or so based on other people underestimating him.
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Remember when monte ball and Gerhart were locks to get 200+ carries and would produce on volume alone.
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Remember when Monte Ball was a rookie getting coached by John Fox and not that good of a back anyway and when Toby Gerhart was a plodder going to an offensive blackhole and also when all circumstances are unilateral and there are no such things as variables
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The Joseph Randle poo poo is so funny to me. Here's a guy who is so talented that he barely touched the ball last year. I realize Murray was a loving bull and they were running him until he couldn't run anymore, but you don't just keep talented players on the bench.
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