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Wittgen posted:It wasn't her bag. It was breaking the sound barrier. Even with her arm being busted (seriously, though. How? I get the dislocation; the joint itself is no stronger than the connection. But that should be a simple "pop it back in" fix), Mary has no chance if she's dumb enough to be anywhere within the vicinity. Even if Alison DOESN'T want to bring down the dam (probably a bad idea), there's plenty of ways to get a totally normal person out of hiding when you have superstrength. Just stomp your foot, for one. Not even enough to damage the dam, just enough to shake the room (and concentration). But, no, this arc is all about philosophy that goes nowhere, means nothing, and completely upends character motivations because we need to pretend anyone here is morally grey. From the girl who is a firefighter because she cannot be burned to the serial killer who only targets men With no exaggeration, her stance has really gone from "Understandable but still a crime" to "pretty much just a run-of-the-miller serial killer".
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I'm trying to understand why one would build a building with a door that literally opens onto a giant concrete cliff, without some sort of warning on the door. Or nearby. Or lights that work.
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Jul 29, 2015 02:16
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Obviously there were revisions in the construction plans but someone forgot to erase the door where the stairs were gonna be. What are you gonna do, not put a door where it says to put a door?
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Jul 29, 2015 02:22
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You sometimes get doors that open onto nothing in industrial spaces - usually it is some sort of loading area where you need to bring something heavy directly up to that level without screwing around with stairs or an elevator. But yea, in all but the worst environments there would be a big sign or something warning you about this on the outside so you don't just walk your fool rear end off. Maybe Mary illusioned the sign away too? She already decided to put illusion stairs behind the door that she had hidden with an illusion wall, so we can tack another couple layers on there no problem.
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Jul 29, 2015 02:36
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Classtoise posted:Even with her arm being busted (seriously, though. How? I get the dislocation; the joint itself is no stronger than the connection. But that should be a simple "pop it back in" fix), Mary has no chance if she's dumb enough to be anywhere within the vicinity. Well: a) we don't actually know how bad the damage is, b) she might not be physically capable of popping it back in depending on whether she's figured out how to voluntarily reduce her own invulnerability, and c) Alison has absolutely no experience with being injured. Getting cut by Cleaver was literally the first time anything hurt her, ever. So it's not too surprising she just kind of awkwardly shoved it into a makeshift sling and went on about her business. Classtoise posted:Even if Alison DOESN'T want to bring down the dam (probably a bad idea), there's plenty of ways to get a totally normal person out of hiding when you have superstrength. Just stomp your foot, for one. Not even enough to damage the dam, just enough to shake the room (and concentration). For better or worse, Alison's fine control isn't that good. She's remarked on that multiple times. It'd be really easy for her to stomp her foot to generate shockwaves or something and blow up the dam by accident. Plus, for all she knows the whole thing is rigged with TNT or something. Better to check into it first, and, hey, being invulnerable, what's the risk? Classtoise posted:But, no, this arc is all about philosophy that goes nowhere, means nothing, and completely upends character motivations because we need to pretend anyone here is morally grey. From the girl who is a firefighter because she cannot be burned to the serial killer who only targets men At this point, everyone Moonshadow has killed has been an actual rapist. She hasn't killed Furnace yet, so it's possible he's not (and either she thought he was or she wasn't planning to kill him), or it's possible that he IS and we just don't know it yet. Question mark on that one, presumably to be resolved in the future. That still makes her a serial killer, though. Every serial killer has a target profile. Hers just happens to be "rapists".
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Jul 29, 2015 02:47
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Axiem posted:I'm trying to understand why one would build a building with a door that literally opens onto a giant concrete cliff, without some sort of warning on the door. Or nearby. Or lights that work. Eh, there's plenty of good reasons as to why that is the way it is. She might've had them removed, it might be a "false" door (make a wall on a catwalk, put a door, take down the wall) or something. It doesn't HAVE to be a mysterious "door to nowhere".
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Jul 29, 2015 02:58
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Fake stairs, Alison's second weakness.
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Jul 29, 2015 05:55
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That was actually a real wall that she illusioned a door into, that Alison unknowingly punched through. Mary's illusions are that good. (And Alison that unobservant)
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Jul 29, 2015 09:48
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She's already been established as superhumanly dense.
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Jul 29, 2015 10:48
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SynthOrange posted:She's already been established as superhumanly dense. 
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Jul 29, 2015 11:16
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T.G. Xarbala posted:Fake stairs, Alison's second weakness. Falls down fake stairs, dislocates other shoulder.
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Jul 29, 2015 11:51
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Classtoise posted:Eh, there's plenty of good reasons as to why that is the way it is. She might've had them removed, it might be a "false" door (make a wall on a catwalk, put a door, take down the wall) or something. Given she calls it "photokinesis" she's got arbitrary lasers, so sure, she could have just laserblasted the stairs, too.
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Jul 29, 2015 21:41
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Classtoise posted:Even with her arm being busted (seriously, though. How? I get the dislocation; the joint itself is no stronger than the connection. But that should be a simple "pop it back in" fix), Mary has no chance if she's dumb enough to be anywhere within the vicinity. She did pop it back in. It still takes time for the shoulder to heal after it's popped back into place. How long? Who the gently caress knows! Probably about 30 minutes of real time, so about 9-10 months worth of comics.
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Jul 29, 2015 22:49
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Test Pattern posted:Given she calls it "photokinesis" she's got arbitrary lasers, so sure, she could have just laserblasted the stairs, too. I think it's pretty clear that the stairs were just an illusion. Moonshadow can't really fight Allison directly so she's going to be doing it the subtle way.
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Jul 30, 2015 15:34
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Not sure if I'd call this subtle. I mean, subtler than punching a tank, so subtle by comic book standards, but still.
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Jul 31, 2015 12:58
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Falstaff posted:Not sure if I'd call this subtle.
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Jul 31, 2015 13:23
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I'm rooting for Mary. 
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Jul 31, 2015 16:05
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Wait, so this wouldn't be a question if they had laser eyes, but it is a question when they have pyrokinesis? What do you have against Cyclops? 
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Jul 31, 2015 17:12
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I'm not totally sure; did Mary miss Alison with her swipe, or did it just fail to do anything to her? I know some people were guessing that her knife might be special in some way that would allow it to hurt Alison.
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Jul 31, 2015 17:17
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Ashcans posted:I'm not totally sure; did Mary miss Alison with her swipe, or did it just fail to do anything to her? I know some people were guessing that her knife might be special in some way that would allow it to hurt Alison. It seemed like it failed to do anything; Alison certainly acts like Mary made a good-faith attempt to kill her.
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Jul 31, 2015 17:29
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Moonshadow presents an interesting reversal of the superpowers as privilege metaphor the comic has been using so far. Having powers makes vigilante justice against you more acceptable.
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Jul 31, 2015 17:46
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SlothfulCobra posted:Wait, so this wouldn't be a question if they had laser eyes, but it is a question when they have pyrokinesis? Cyclops doesn't have laser eyes he has force beam eyes. 
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Jul 31, 2015 18:43
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Hypocrisy posted:I think it's pretty clear that the stairs were just an illusion. I mean the stairs that were previously there, where the illusion stairs presently are.
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Jul 31, 2015 18:53
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Wadding up metal and just stuffing it into doors does make for an effective barricade.
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Aug 4, 2015 17:52
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If Furnace is actually a rapist I swear I'm dropping this stupid comic. This arc has been a complete clusterfuck from the get go, I'm amazed this is the same guy who did the stuff with Cleaver. loving It Hurts! has better pathos than this.
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Aug 7, 2015 19:13
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I doubt he's actually a rapist. It seems like it's heading more in the direction of Mary thinking he must be a rapist with all of his terrible opinions on the subject, but he winds up not being one even after being questioned under the influence of truth serum.
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ManlyGrunting posted:If Furnace is actually a rapist I swear I'm dropping this stupid comic. This arc has been a complete clusterfuck from the get go, I'm amazed this is the same guy who did the stuff with Cleaver. loving It Hurts! has better pathos than this. I doubt he will be, the author transfers the moral idiot title to whomever is talking to Mega, so it's Moonshadow's turn to be a crayzee monster.
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Aug 7, 2015 19:22
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This comic is Ayn Rand for the Tumblr generation.
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Aug 7, 2015 19:33
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Sergeant_Crunch posted:I doubt he's actually a rapist. It seems like it's heading more in the direction of Mary thinking he must be a rapist with all of his terrible opinions on the subject, but he winds up not being one even after being questioned under the influence of truth serum. Either this or Furnace WAS raped by his dad or something and his terrible opinions are some kind of weird coping mechanism.
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Oxxidation posted:This comic is Ayn Rand for the Tumblr generation.  Woah now. Lets not say anything we'll regret.
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Aug 7, 2015 23:16
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I mean, the writing style is similarly self-centered and confident in its own morality, but it's not that bad. Patrick would have needed to tell her that she's just thinking too much for it to be that bad. Rand's strawmen were an insult to the intellectual depth of straw.
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Discendo Vox posted:I doubt he will be, the author transfers the moral idiot title to whomever is talking to Mega, so it's Moonshadow's turn to be a crayzee monster. I dunno, man. I have a bad feeling this is gonna turn into some crazy "the ends justify the means" talk. Like, every woman BUT Alison seems to be of the opinion that whatever Mary is doing she should be left to do it because "gently caress them". I know it won't happen, but I really hope Tuesday is just Alison saying "Yes." And flying off, while Mary looks completely awestruck that Alison didn't fall for her attempts to goad her into sticking around so she can cut up her victim more.
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My guess is they're going to try to make Moonshadow a sympathetic crazystrawperson using Horrible Trauma Flashback that redirects semi-deserved blame onto Megagirl before she stopped being a superhero. That's a move that lets the author preserve Emily's current moral perfection while presenting the illusion of nuance. Maybe Moonshadow was raped while Mega was still a hero, or immediately after she stopped? Ugh. I'm anticipating rhetorical use of rape in an internet comic. I need to go get some fresh air.
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Aug 8, 2015 00:00
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I feel like people are really overselling the dip in quality this comic is experiencing just because it gave us one long, slow, talky, disjointed chapter.
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Aug 8, 2015 00:04
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Rand Brittain posted:I feel like people are really overselling the dip in quality this comic is experiencing just because it gave us one long, slow, talky, disjointed chapter. It's a pretty big dip in quality.
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Rand Brittain posted:I feel like people are really overselling the dip in quality this comic is experiencing just because it gave us one long, slow, talky, disjointed chapter. One of the downsides of a webcomic like this is that if you have a lovely chapter it means that it sucks twice a week for eight and a half months
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Classtoise posted:I know it won't happen, but I really hope Tuesday is just Alison saying "Yes." And flying off, while Mary looks completely awestruck that Alison didn't fall for her attempts to goad her into sticking around so she can cut up her victim more.
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Aug 8, 2015 01:27
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Furnace is going to turn out to be a self hating gay.
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Hollismason posted:Furnace is going to turn out to be a self hating gay. Ooh, good call.
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Finally watched Chronicle today and it's a lot better than this
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