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KildarX posted:Weird. I never knew you could get the leverage to finish the choke from there no matter the anatomy. *shrug* that's what learning grip stripping and armbars are for though I guess. I didn't know either. My sensei has been been doing judo for ~50 years (Rokudan) and said he had never seen something quite like it but the stars aligned and It worked out well for my buddy. It was pretty impressive to watch cause you couldn't really see what was going on until his opponent suddenly just went limp.
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Crazyeyes posted:Liberty Bell Classic the years ago my friend knocked a guy out could doing a double lapel choke while pinned. Keep in mind this was against a green belt, but still. How central? Cranford Judo is probably the best Judo in the state and possibly the eastern seaboard, but it's a ways north.
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fatherdog posted:How central? Cranford Judo is probably the best Judo in the state and possibly the eastern seaboard, but it's a ways north. I'm down by Trenton. Who teaches there now? Only one I knew about there was Yonezuka who passed away last year.
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Crazyeyes posted:I didn't know either. My sensei has been been doing judo for ~50 years (Rokudan) and said he had never seen something quite like it but the stars aligned and It worked out well for my buddy. It was pretty impressive to watch cause you couldn't really see what was going on until his opponent suddenly just went limp. There's some positions where you might be able to do something if you're a little more sideways and the guy isn't posturing up may be? There are some "sacrifice chokes" that we do sometime in judo where you can probably finish while mounted, but the top guy can probably always remove the pressure by posturing up. I really can't imagine any reason ever to try to do that lapel choke while a guy is mounted on your and standing upright. I mean you're basically saying "would you please arm bar me".
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Back when I was a baby blue a dude with freak possibly chemical strength caught me in a collar choke under mount. He was so strong I couldn't posture and I wasn't experienced enough to get the angles before I had to tap. He made a bit of a thing with it. Won some tournament matches Surprising people. Gave it up eventually though for obvious reasons.
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I've seen someone get jacket choked in high-level competition by a guy who was in his guard, but at least there you've got gravity on your side. Trying it when mounted seems like you'd just be gifting an armbar (in addition to it being nigh-impossible to finish the choke), assuming you didn't have a massive strength advantage.
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KingColliwog posted:There's some positions where you might be able to do something if you're a little more sideways and the guy isn't posturing up may be? There are some "sacrifice chokes" that we do sometime in judo where you can probably finish while mounted, but the top guy can probably always remove the pressure by posturing up. I really can't imagine any reason ever to try to do that lapel choke while a guy is mounted on your and standing upright. I mean you're basically saying "would you please arm bar me". Well it should be said this was low level competition so arm bars are uncommon if not banned outright for safety reasons. My sensei strictly forbade our use of them in competition until we were brown belted. Also because he was in a pin I think his opponent was just trying to endure it long enough to get the win.
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Crazyeyes posted:Well it should be said this was low level competition so arm bars are uncommon if not banned outright for safety reasons. My sensei strictly forbade our use of them in competition until we were brown belted. You're probably right that the guy was just trying to tough it out so he would get victory by pin and got caught by surprise by how fast you can get choked out in the end. Anyway, that's quite an awesome way to win.
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I really wished that I never introduced my friend to my Judo club. I do admit our pools of female fighters in our club is shrinking fast but all she talks about is judo with everything she does outside of the club. She then has breakdowns after most classes that she is wasting everyone's time teaching her things and thinks that they gave her a yellow belt to keep her going. She is making good progress but her anexity attacks and lack of self confidence is really getting to me every time I have to see her. Even my girlfriend, purple belt BJJ, is getting annoyed because all she talks about is judo everything.
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Is your friend Ronda Rousey 20 year ago?
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Going back to cross-training. I just started at an MMA gym about a month ago. I have 3-4 years of striking, boxing/kickboxing, and a bit of grappling but not much. For the past month I'm doing 2 days of striking, and 1 day of BJJ. The gym offers Judo and Wresting classes as well so I'm wondering if I should stick with BJJ and maybe drop in on Judo/Wrestling every now again, or just concentrate on one grappling art to supplement my striking. Or maybe flip it to two days of BJJ and one of striking?
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SnatchRabbit posted:Going back to cross-training. I just started at an MMA gym about a month ago. I have 3-4 years of striking, boxing/kickboxing, and a bit of grappling but not much. For the past month I'm doing 2 days of striking, and 1 day of BJJ. The gym offers Judo and Wresting classes as well so I'm wondering if I should stick with BJJ and maybe drop in on Judo/Wrestling every now again, or just concentrate on one grappling art to supplement my striking. Or maybe flip it to two days of BJJ and one of striking? What are your goals?
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manyak posted:What are your goals? Mostly just improvement as a fighter/martial artist. I'm not trying to be a competitive/amateur fighter or anything, but I do spar fairly regularly with a group from my last gym, and I would like to be able to hang with some of the higher level people at the new gym. I definitely want to get better at grappling because it's something I know I'm woefully deficient in. I really just enjoy martial arts as a whole from the discipline, fitness, and technique aspects. I just wasn't sure if I was spreading myself too thin.
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SnatchRabbit posted:Mostly just improvement as a fighter/martial artist. I'm not trying to be a competitive/amateur fighter or anything, but I do spar fairly regularly with a group from my last gym, and I would like to be able to hang with some of the higher level people at the new gym. I definitely want to get better at grappling because it's something I know I'm woefully deficient in. I really just enjoy martial arts as a whole from the discipline, fitness, and technique aspects. I just wasn't sure if I was spreading myself too thin. I'd definitely be hitting up the occasional wrestling class if i were you.
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Slaapaav posted:how long has she been training? She been training for 7 months now off and on. She jumps from my judo club to my GF's bjj club due to the work commitments. The BJJ club has pretty much told her to chill out and come back when she is ready and committed. She didn't take it so well. Stairmaster posted:Your friend needs therapy.
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SnatchRabbit posted:Going back to cross-training. I just started at an MMA gym about a month ago. I have 3-4 years of striking, boxing/kickboxing, and a bit of grappling but not much. For the past month I'm doing 2 days of striking, and 1 day of BJJ. The gym offers Judo and Wresting classes as well so I'm wondering if I should stick with BJJ and maybe drop in on Judo/Wrestling every now again, or just concentrate on one grappling art to supplement my striking. Or maybe flip it to two days of BJJ and one of striking? SnatchRabbit posted:Mostly just improvement as a fighter/martial artist. I'm not trying to be a competitive/amateur fighter or anything, but I do spar fairly regularly with a group from my last gym, and I would like to be able to hang with some of the higher level people at the new gym. I definitely want to get better at grappling because it's something I know I'm woefully deficient in. I really just enjoy martial arts as a whole from the discipline, fitness, and technique aspects. I just wasn't sure if I was spreading myself too thin. If your goal is improvement and to be more well-rounded, I'd do two days BJJ one day striking. It's tough to improve significantly in BJJ with one day a week; two is significantly better, and while you may tread water a bit with striking you're unlikely to get worse. Beyond that a lot depends on how much time you're willing to put. To just improve and get more well-rounded, two days of striking and two days of BJJ would probably be ideal assuming you have an average person's schedule and ability to recover. Ironically, while Judo/Wrestling is probably the most important skill to have it's also the one I would be most slow to add sessions of as it's definitely the hardest on the body and thus most likely to cause nagging injuries/hardest to recover from.
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Whiskey A Go Go! posted:She been training for 7 months now off and on. She jumps from my judo club to my GF's bjj club due to the work commitments. The BJJ club has pretty much told her to chill out and come back when she is ready and committed. She didn't take it so well. When you say she talks about Judo all the time, do you mean obsessing over technique and the classes, or just random spergin like how Kimura would bunnyhop two laps around a track every morning?
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My girlfriend's parents both took up capoeira about a year ago, and they live together, work together, train together, and socialize with their capoeira friends more than anybody else. I don't think they've ever had a good hobby before. It's impossible to have a five minute conversation with them that doesn't somehow turn to capoeira. Pretty annoying! But this girl sounds a lot worse.
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This week I got my first two submissions,two lapel chokes 
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:My girlfriend's parents both took up capoeira about a year ago, and they live together, work together, train together, and socialize with their capoeira friends more than anybody else. I don't think they've ever had a good hobby before. It's impossible to have a five minute conversation with them that doesn't somehow turn to capoeira. Pretty annoying! But this girl sounds a lot worse.
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Bangkero posted:Just be happy they're talking about last night's training and not the group orgy that followed afterwards. Sexy dance fighting.
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This has been making the rounds:  quote:Houston Cottrell is a certified Gracie Jiu-jitsu Blue Belt under the Gracie Academy in Torrance, CA. Having completed an extensive instructor certification program in July 2014 he became the youngest certified Gracie Jiu-jitsu Instructor. Houston is passionate about teaching and this certification means that Houston will be teaching the exact same techniques that are taught at the Gracie Academy in Torrance using the same teaching methodologies and guidelines that Grandmaster Helio Gracie outlined. He is excited to bring the “Gentle Art” as well as the Gracie philosophies to Mississippi. 17 year old kid with a blue belt is the head instructor at a Gracie Academy affiliate gym, which would make sense if it was 1995 and if there wasn't already a gym with legit black belts 30 minutes down the road from this place. Since the internet got upset about it, as the internet is known to do, Rener and Ryron released this statement: Rorion's Idiot Shithead Kids posted:In 1929, the director of the Bank of Brazil, Mario Brandt, arrived for a private class at the original Gracie Academy in Rio de Janeiro, as scheduled. The instructor, Carlos Gracie, was running late and was not present. Helio, who up until that point only learned by watching his brothers, offered to begin the class with the man. When the tardy Carlos arrived offering his apologies, the student assured him it was no problem, and actually requested that he be allowed to continue learning with Helio Gracie instead. Carlos agreed to this and Helio Gracie became an instructor at 16 years of age. The rest is history. lol.
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Whiskey A Go Go! posted:I really wished that I never introduced my friend to my Judo club. I do admit our pools of female fighters in our club is shrinking fast but all she talks about is judo with everything she does outside of the club. She then has breakdowns after most classes that she is wasting everyone's time teaching her things and thinks that they gave her a yellow belt to keep her going. She is making good progress but her anexity attacks and lack of self confidence is really getting to me every time I have to see her. Even my girlfriend, purple belt BJJ, is getting annoyed because all she talks about is judo everything. Stop being a jerk. Anxiety attacks are crippling.
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Keg posted:This has been making the rounds: What's the big deal?
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ICHIBAHN posted:What's the big deal? The kid probably asked his parents to buy him a gym, and they did, and it's funny. Then they paid the Gracies some money and the Gracies in turn said "Yes, this is something we want to put our name on and associate ourselves with", and it's funny. Now, instead of training under black belts and Reilly Bodycomb at a Royce Gracie affiliate, he is the owner and head instructor of a gym as a blue belt, which is funny. And he charges people $130/month in northern Mississippi to train under him, and I find that funny too. Keg fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Aug 8, 2015 |
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Keg posted:The kid probably asked his parents to buy him a gym, and they did, and it's funny. Then they paid the Gracies some money and the Gracies in turn said "Yes, this is something we want to put our name on and associate ourselves with", and it's funny. Now, instead of training under black belts and Reilly Bodycomb, he is the owner and head instructor of a gym as a blue belt, which is funny. And he charges people $130/month in northern Mississippi to train under him, and I find that funny too. Yeah its embarrassing, but the gracies are salespeople above all else so this is right up their alley
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manyak posted:Yeah its embarrassing, but the gracies are salespeople above all else so this is right up their alley Yeah I'm not outraged or anything. I've seen cries of 'creonte' from people with thick Brazilian accents, but I find the situation more amusing than anything.
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Keg posted:This has been making the rounds: Wait...an actual place and not part of their dumb garage program? Wow... they just really care about making that extra dollar...
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how many years until everyone is lamenting old bjj
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I'm most upset about his stupid face. But yeah, blue belt trainers are supposed to be a thing of independent garage gyms, remote places, college programs and 10 years ago. I've run beginner classes and open mats at both my old gym and current gym, but I even feel a bit silly when other people call me coach. I'm a blue belt and refer to myself as assistant coach but I still feel silly then. VulgarandStupid fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Aug 8, 2015 |
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Rabhadh posted:how many years until everyone is lamenting old bjj People started doing berimbolos in the mid 90s, so like twenty years ago.
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gently caress Rorion and his idiot kids. I loving earned a black belt and everything they do makes it mean less.
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So much more goes into teaching than just belt or rank too.
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His private lessons are 45$ a half hour.... I know two black belts with decent competition records that do an hour for about 100$ 
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Gymkata works
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kimbo305 posted:Gymkata works This checks out 
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Lost For Words posted:This checks out Kurt Thomas ain't got nothin' on Spiderman
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