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Koryk
Jun 5, 2007

Baller Witness Bro posted:

15,000 liters? That's enough to fill the Helium dewar around a 9.4T magnet around 40 times... Did you mean $15,000 or are MRI dewars much larger to prolong service intervals?

The first 15,000 of liquid helium was for cooling from 80K to 2.2K, on a 60ton coil, so most of it boiled off. The cryostat itself was 3,000 liters. Once we started energizing we went through almost another 15,000 liters to get it to 11.7T. The precool (Ambient to 80K) was 26,000 liters of N2, none of it retained.

It's not a mouse magnet😀

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Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Pornographic Memory posted:

If the helmet itself is caught between the bus and the pavement he could be moving his head inside the helmet, but unable to move the helmet itself.

Your helmet should be a fairly snug fit. If your head is rattling around loose inside of it, that kind of defeats the purpose.

Bar Crow
Oct 10, 2012

Captain Postal posted:

I think the question that was being asked is: why didn't the rider, you know, move their head at some point?

Don't questions a man's decisions until you've been dragged a mile in his helmet.

The Wiggly Wizard
Aug 21, 2008


im full of poo poo posted:

Holy crap that river looks exactly like orange juice

I was gonna say more like tubgirl color.

Professor of Cats
Mar 22, 2009

Captain Postal posted:

I think the question that was being asked is: why didn't the rider, you know, move their head at some point?

loving LOL

ArcMage
Sep 14, 2007

What is this thread?

Ramrod XTreme

Powered Descent posted:

Your helmet should be a fairly snug fit. If your head is rattling around loose inside of it, that kind of defeats the purpose.

The helmet shell is probably pretty tough, but once you wear a hole in it you're now grinding styrofoam, more or less. It'll go pretty quick.

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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VectorSigma posted:

Did some digging.

Apparently he went under a bus and was dragged.



:3:

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Koryk posted:

The first 15,000 of liquid helium was for cooling from 80K to 2.2K, on a 60ton coil, so most of it boiled off. The cryostat itself was 3,000 liters. Once we started energizing we went through almost another 15,000 liters to get it to 11.7T. The precool (Ambient to 80K) was 26,000 liters of N2, none of it retained.

It's not a mouse magnet😀

Man that is a shitload of He; aren't there concerns about a potential shortage?

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Scaramouche posted:

Man that is a shitload of He; aren't there concerns about a potential shortage?

It's a huge concern. I linked to Pop Mech article earlier about it.

EDIT: I did NOT link to it, just quoted it.

Here it is: http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a4046/why-is-there-a-helium-shortage-10031229/

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a8289/as-shortage-worsens-we-visit-the-federal-helium-reserve-14720528/

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Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

This sort of poo poo is why I get pissed about balloons. Other than the fact that retards release them outside so they can become somebody else's problem.

Also https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balloonfest_%2786

Balloonfest '86 :cripes: :cb: :cb: :cb:

Darkman Fanpage fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Aug 9, 2015

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

Darkman Fanpage posted:

This sort of poo poo is why I get pissed about balloons. Other than the fact that retards release them outside so they can become somebody else's problem.

Also https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balloonfest_%2786

Balloonfest '86 :cripes: :cb: :cb: :cb:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Helium_Reserve

quote:

By 1995, a billion cubic metres of the gas had been collected, and the reserve was US$1.4 billion in debt, prompting the Congress of the United States in 1996 to phase out the reserve.[4][5] The resulting "Helium Privatization Act of 1996" (Public Law 104–273) directed the United States Department of the Interior to start selling off the reserve by 2005.[6]

thanks obama clinton the first

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Darkman Fanpage posted:

This sort of poo poo is why I get pissed about balloons. Other than the fact that retards release them outside so they can become somebody else's problem.

Also https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balloonfest_%2786

Balloonfest '86 :cripes: :cb: :cb: :cb:

I thought balloons mostly used lower quality trash helium that wasn't worth purifying further?

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot
United Way BallonFest 86: This is a Good Idea

or

United Way BallonFest 86: What could Possibly Go Wrong?

Thankfully they weren't mylar balloons - those can cause power outages if they drift into power lines or a substation.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Angela Christine posted:

I thought balloons mostly used lower quality trash helium that wasn't worth purifying further?
I assume its trash helium because it hasn't been purified further, not because it can't be. Helium is conceptually easy if energy intensive to make pure because its on a fairly unique vapor-liquid equilibrium island.

We're maybe a little early into the whole peak natural gas thing to really worry about the lack of a federal helium reserve, but there were probably smarter ways to handle it than flooding the market all at once cause the Cold War's over.

Balloonfest was wrong on so many levels. Its like one of those things about having the technology that we could, but the real question is should we? But with balloons.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.
We're not going to run out of helium. We're going to run out of cheap helium, like we've already run out of cheap oil and cheap natural gas. As the price of helium increases, it will become economical to exploit more-expensive sources of it. Helium is produced by the decay of a whole bunch of naturally-occurring radioactive elements, which means it's present in Earth's atmosphere in trace amounts; if it gets expensive enough, it'll become economical to extract it from there the same way we currently extract the other noble gases. Neon, for example, is *only* obtained by the fractional distillation of air, and liquid Ne is about 50 times as expensive as helium is (but the helium's cheap because we've been dumping that reserve).

Kid's balloons will become more expensive, but we're not going to run out of helium.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

So what you're saying is that we should switch to Neon for children's balloons. Does it change your voice too? This could be win-win

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

Scaramouche posted:

So what you're saying is that we should switch to Neon for children's balloons. Does it change your voice too? This could be win-win

Sulphur Hexafluoride (SF6) will change your voice too! :yayclod:

Doesn't float really well though. :(

m2pt5
May 18, 2005

THAT GOD DAMN MOSQUITO JUST KEEPS COMING BACK

Three-Phase posted:

Sulphur Hexafluoride (SF6) will change your voice too! :yayclod:

It sure does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXcoGuzsYrM

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Scaramouche posted:

So what you're saying is that we should switch to Neon for children's balloons. Does it change your voice too? This could be win-win

Hydrogen is cheap and plentiful. :haw:

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!



He had his fingers in the breech so he couldn't have shot himself in the face.

Could have done a fair bit of damage to his fingers though

Captain Postal
Sep 16, 2007

Phanatic posted:

If it gets expensive enough, it'll become economical to extract it from there the same way we currently extract the other noble gases.

Kid's balloons will become more expensive, but we're not going to run out of helium.

He is light enough that at 300K, it's thermal motion exceeds escape velocity from the earth (and it's the only atom/molecule that has that property. H2 can absorb enough energy in the bond to not have enough left over to store as kinetic energy and escape earth, although some does. :science:)

He has to be extracted from mostly natural gas deposits, but I think you can also get it from oil/coal deposits if you care enough and its worth the cost of the extraction equipment.

Did kids balloons become a thing when the strategic He reserve was sold down? Or when Mylar became cheap? Or was it a happy coincidence of both?

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014


Pretty sure that was a joke. James May is an experienced shotgun owner (a rarity in the UK).

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

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Up yours Adam I totally want to try this at home that's awesome

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

chitoryu12 posted:

Pretty sure that was a joke. James May is an experienced shotgun owner (a rarity in the UK).

Yeah, most firearm safety courses instruct you to inspect the barrel after you have ensured that it is safe and unloaded.

In Canada we have "PROVE"

Point the firearm in the safest available direction.
Remove all cartridges.
Observe the chamber.
Verify the feeding path.
Examine the bore. (which is what he was doing)

VendaGoat
Nov 1, 2005

Blistex posted:

Examine the bore. (which is what he was doing)

You can do so from the breech

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

chitoryu12 posted:

Pretty sure that was a joke. James May is an experienced shotgun owner (a rarity in the UK).

There is a video floating around of James explaining to (and then being vindicated by) some sort of military guy that he did that because if you dropped your gun on the way to the north pole and it got snow/ice in the barrel, you would still see light if looking into the breech because the snow/ice is translucent and might create enough back-pressure to destroy the gun when fired so the best way to check for this was put your finger in the breech (to ensure a round could not be chambered) and look down the barrel.

Blistex posted:

Yeah, most firearm safety courses instruct you to inspect the barrel after you have ensured that it is safe and unloaded.

In Canada we have "PROVE"

Point the firearm in the safest available direction.
Remove all cartridges.
Observe the chamber.
Verify the feeding path.
Examine the bore. (which is what he was doing)

In my experience, most U.S. instructors still frown upon pointing a gun at your (or anyone else's) face even after checking it. Not sure what they do in the U.K.

VendaGoat
Nov 1, 2005

Cat Hatter posted:

There is a video floating around of James explaining to (and then being vindicated by) some sort of military guy that he did that because if you dropped your gun on the way to the north pole and it got snow/ice in the barrel, you would still see light if looking into the breech because the snow/ice is translucent and might create enough back-pressure to destroy the gun when fired so the best way to check for this was put your finger in the breech (to ensure a round could not be chambered) and look down the barrel.

While I fully understand and can sympathize with this. Please show me one loving snowflake in that gif.

VendaGoat fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Aug 10, 2015

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

VendaGoat posted:

While I fully understand and can sympathize with this. Please show me one loving snowflake in that gif.

I honestly have no idea why he felt the need to demonstrate how to inspect for snow when they were training to go to the north pole instead of just telling Jeremy "if you drop the gun in the snow, don't try to fire it until I check it first".

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Oh goody it's the James May properly clearing a shotgun derail

ledge
Jun 10, 2003

Cat Hatter posted:

I honestly have no idea why he felt the need to demonstrate how to inspect for snow when they were training to go to the north pole instead of just telling Jeremy "if you drop the gun in the snow, don't try to fire it until I check it first".

Because it's comedy light entertainment and he was doing it for the purposes of humour?

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

ledge posted:

Because it's comedy light entertainment and he was doing it for the purposes of humour?

Does James May really seem like the type of person that would look down the barrel of a gun in the interest of comedy? Besides, the other two seemed legitimately surprised. Not to mention that the reason he was explaining himself to military guy on the youtube video is because the other two were still making fun of him for it years later.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

ledge posted:

Because it's comedy light entertainment and he was doing it for the purposes of humour?

D'you guys know if there's heavy entertainment?

ol qwerty bastard
Dec 13, 2005

If you want something done, do it yourself!

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

D'you guys know if there's heavy entertainment?

Well, your mom can be pretty funny.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
He means heavy as in 'high-intensity', not 'curving space-time'.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Everything that's not light entertainment, I guess? If it requires you to pay attention to the plot or the in-depth explanations, or if it's meant to leave you thoughtful or angry or sad, it's ... probably not light, but I'll leave the exact weight classes of entertainment to someone else. :D

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Tony Homo posted:

Our gently caress up is fighting the fires. Fires are natural and if allowed to happen would mean less devastating fires. Instead we fight them and allow the underbrush to grow which adds fuel to the fires.

You have no clue how fire prevention works do you

ledge
Jun 10, 2003

Cat Hatter posted:

Does James May really seem like the type of person that would look down the barrel of a gun in the interest of comedy?

Yes.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
He's a comedian, most of them look down the barrel of a gun at least once a day.

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Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Cat Hatter posted:

Does James May really seem like the type of person that would look down the barrel of a gun in the interest of comedy? Besides, the other two seemed legitimately surprised. Not to mention that the reason he was explaining himself to military guy on the youtube video is because the other two were still making fun of him for it years later.

Yes.

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