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dinosaur excavation? long awaited? http://playstarbound.com/28th-july-so-you-two-uh-dig-up-dinosaurs/   edit:  coupedeville fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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The way things like this and that tedious gardening update are worded it sounds like people are just independently adding features to a core game without a concise plan for what that game is supposed to actually be. There are updates, sure, but updates to what?
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Aug 10, 2015 05:28
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Reiley posted:The way things like this and that tedious gardening update are worded it sounds like people are just independently adding features to a core game without a concise plan for what that game is supposed to actually be. There are updates, sure, but updates to what? Look, I'm not defending starbound, but uhh... Weren't we just saying they don't ever update? Then we remember the nightlies, and woops, it's updated all the time. Then the updates aren't the right updates? Do they not get credit for updating the nightly literally all the time?
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Aug 10, 2015 05:31
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Turtlicious posted:Look, I'm not defending starbound, but uhh... That's what I was saying. There are updates but there is an absence of fundamental directions. I don't know why combat wants to be like Dark Souls, or why difficulty is measured not in how much you need to do but how much you can't actually do, or why a sandbox universe about infinite worlds is tuned to lock you out of every direction but forward. I don't understand what their overarching vision is but it's cool that you can dig up bones and gardening is "harder" now. What in the hell is this game supposed to be when it's all done? Why was it legitimately more fun in early alpha before they began adding things to it? Believe me I want to embrace the Bird Game but it sounds like a Duke Nukem Forever sort of situation under the hood.
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Aug 10, 2015 05:36
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Turtlicious posted:Look, I'm not defending starbound, but uhh... You must be new here
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Aug 10, 2015 05:37
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coupedeville posted:dinosaur excavation? long awaited? it was part of the kickstarter-esque thing they had when selling preorders. nevermind that minecraft and somehow terraria have beaten it to the punch already.
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Aug 10, 2015 05:37
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I have no idea, Terraria but better is the pitch. So there are supposed to be apartments, and you can either buy your way through tiers using mercantilism, or grind your way through them, doing quests and poo poo, or farm your way through them, by eventually growing pixels or some poo poo. That's why everything is getting harder, because they're not trying to make a fun game right now, so it's just a bunch of half built systems. The harder gardening will tie into a farming tier system. The dark souls combat would be tweaked for the adventure/quest system. The (eventual) rent and poo poo would tie into the "be a manor lord" system.
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Aug 10, 2015 05:39
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So what you're saying is it's bad, and it will remain bad for the foreseeable future.
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Aug 10, 2015 05:43
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The model for combat this game should be following is Soldat. It almost is but it also really isn't, and I think that's the biggest disappointment of all. They're not even cribbing off the right genre, let alone the right game.
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Aug 10, 2015 05:44
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Afraid of Audio posted:So what you're saying is it's bad, and it will remain bad for the foreseeable future. Yeah p much
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Aug 10, 2015 05:46
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its a game about alpacas and it has been ever since they did a necessary move to england and lost their competent coder
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Aug 10, 2015 06:48
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Terraria could really use a way to get displayable dino bones out of those fossils you can already dig up.
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Aug 10, 2015 08:41
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Turtlicious posted:Look, I'm not defending starbound, but uhh... Literally anytime people have said the game never updates, they also say that nightlies don't count. Its always been that way for some bizarre reason. If its not the stable branch, it doesn't count. End of story.
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Aug 10, 2015 08:47
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DeliciousCookie posted:Literally anytime people have said the game never updates, they also say that nightlies don't count. Its always been that way for some bizarre reason. If its not the stable branch, it doesn't count. End of story. Is "The Nightly Build Saves will regularly be ruined" a bizarre reason now? Or have the nightly builds reached a point where they will never mess with your saves? That's pretty much the main reason people said the nightly build doesn't count. The big neon sign saying "Hey your saves can and will be hosed without warning." With a side of nightly being so in flux it's hard to rely on compared to a stable build (Hey remember when they made it so the manipulator could only dig up dirt and rocks? Then you needed to build a stone pick to be able to dig copper, then had to build a copper pick to dig iron, and and finally be able to make an anvil for better weapons and armor, and then needed an Iron pick to dig up soft stuff like gold?) Section Z fucked around with this message at 09:19 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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Aug 10, 2015 09:13
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I think it depends on the specific update but fairly often saves n such will get wrecked if you use dailies yeah
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Aug 10, 2015 09:18
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DeliciousCookie posted:Literally anytime people have said the game never updates, they also say that nightlies don't count. Its always been that way for some bizarre reason. If its not the stable branch, it doesn't count. End of story. That's kind of how software works, though. Nightly builds are unstable garbage where you just build whatever happens to be there no matter how badly it functions. They aren't proper versions. A developer releasing nightlies is more "hey if you ever wanted to see how bad games are before they're released take a look!" than actual releases.
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Aug 10, 2015 09:37
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I wanted Starbound to be a good game. I really did. I was a Chucklefish apologist full of hope and joy for a while. Im in the same boat. Except that starbound is making me like the idea of playing WoW and paying for a game i love to hate to play. .
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Aug 10, 2015 10:26
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Section Z posted:With a side of nightly being so in flux it's hard to rely on compared to a stable build (Hey remember when they made it so the manipulator could only dig up dirt and rocks? Then you needed to build a stone pick to be able to dig copper, then had to build a copper pick to dig iron, and and finally be able to make an anvil for better weapons and armor, and then needed an Iron pick to dig up soft stuff like gold?) Yeah, I remember. A magical BeforeTyme when you could mine ore by sand surfing and combat was just a flat boring placeholder instead of a directionless morass. Oh, the good old days...
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Aug 10, 2015 10:51
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grimcreaper posted:Im in the same boat. Except that starbound is making me like the idea of playing WoW and paying for a game i love to hate to play. . 
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Aug 10, 2015 10:52
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Asimo posted:Please call a helpline if you feel an urge to self-harm. You play STO, how many helplines should I be calling on your behalf?
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Aug 10, 2015 10:56
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All of them.
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Aug 10, 2015 11:06
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I honestly never really cared much at all about the sand-mining change. I don't think it was that big of a deal and I don't think it was iconic of a downward turn away from fun concepts. That award should go to something way worse, like precision platforming so precarious even the developer demos can't pull it off, while also getting slowed down to half speed if the cursor is on the wrong side of the screen.
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Aug 10, 2015 11:42
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Patware posted:well there was a pattern for a while of people saying actual reasonable things because supernorn was floating around and acted like he wanted to hear them A better analogy would be someone ripping a gnarly fart as they powerwalk at max speed through a room full of people complaining about how bad it smells already.
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Aug 10, 2015 11:43
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Dootman posted:You play STO, how many helplines should I be calling on your behalf? I play STO occasionally. The space ship combat is fun in short bursts. ... Theres something wrong with me isn't there? Im gonna install STO right now while watching an episode of voyager. Theres a legend among my people that say voyager was both the best and worst star trek series. grimcreaper fucked around with this message at 11:58 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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Aug 10, 2015 11:55
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Cicadas! posted:A better analogy would be someone ripping a gnarly fart as they powerwalk at max speed through a room full of people complaining about how bad it smells already. in reality nobody cares
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Aug 10, 2015 12:41
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Cicadas! posted:A better analogy would be someone ripping a gnarly fart as they powerwalk at max speed through a room full of people complaining about how bad it smells already. I never understood the ripping on Supernorn. It's not the like dude is behind all the poo poo decisions, he's just the messenger. I mean, I do understand it, in that goons will shoot anyone, especially the messenger, but still.
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Aug 10, 2015 14:06
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Reiley posted:That's what I was saying. There are updates but there is an absence of fundamental directions. I don't know why combat wants to be like Dark Souls, or why difficulty is measured not in how much you need to do but how much you can't actually do, or why a sandbox universe about infinite worlds is tuned to lock you out of every direction but forward. I don't understand what their overarching vision is
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Aug 10, 2015 14:14
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The dream of a playable Space Station 13 died at least in part for Starbound. That cannot be forgiven.
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Aug 10, 2015 14:17
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Section Z posted:Is "The Nightly Build Saves will regularly be ruined" a bizarre reason now? Or have the nightly builds reached a point where they will never mess with your saves? I just loaded up the nightie and my save from 3+ months ago worked. All the mods I made also worked, including the no slower backstep mod
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Aug 10, 2015 14:21
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Agent Kool-Aid posted:it was part of the kickstarter-esque thing they had when selling preorders. nevermind that minecraft and somehow terraria have beaten it to the punch already. Ok, where in Minecraft is there dinosaur excavation?
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Aug 10, 2015 14:24
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I wanna say it's only in mods for Minecraft.
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Aug 10, 2015 14:26
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chucklefish has added overwhelmingly excessive punishments for:
in their sandbox exploration game and strictly enforces the "right" way to play with an obtuse quest system. but that's just my opinion. tiy, how would you describe starbound ??  oh well that's uh. those are just games. what exactly are you copying ??  well what about combat ?? where would you say you're pulling inspiration from there ??  (2012)can't say i see it, but maybe it's there. how has combat changed in three years ??  it's "finally" ""fun"". like symphony of the night i guess. what about mining, what are your thoughts on balancing the matter manipulator and pickaxes   any big plans for the future  Jackard posted:The're isn't one because they don't have a design document. excuse me 
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Aug 10, 2015 15:09
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Doorstops and books propping up table legs are not design documents.
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Aug 10, 2015 15:23
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Turtlicious posted:I just loaded up the nightie and my save from 3+ months ago worked. All the mods I made also worked, including the no slower backstep mod That basically means that they have done jack poo poo since then.
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Aug 10, 2015 15:31
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the nightlies go weeks without changing anything so its pretty funny whenever anyone mentions them
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Aug 10, 2015 15:54
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Last I checked, Dwarf Fortress updates were larger and more frequent than Starbound
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Aug 10, 2015 16:11
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Orv posted:I wanna say it's only in mods for Minecraft. the only way to play minecraft
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Aug 10, 2015 17:45
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Where's that hilarious medieval comic when ya need it?
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Aug 10, 2015 19:33
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I have faith that starbound will one day be finished.
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Jackard posted:The're isn't one because they don't have a design document. Ragequit posted:Tyi which one of these is "Piss off socially stunted Starbound backers"? Hopefully all of the circles, followed by "Nerd tears" in the rectangles. pon alien posted:I dunno, "unfocused joke" is an exceptionally accurate description of Starbound's future. And then people got upset at me for a period of time because I can scry the fourth dimension. Happy 1 year-ish shitposting anniversary.
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