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SirPhoebos posted:How do I upgrade the Law/Esoteric weapons? You take the weapon and the upgrade item to an NPC near the retainer bell in Idyllshire. You buy upgrade items for law gear either with centurio seals at the bar in Ishgard or with law tomes from the same person who sells law gear. To get the esoterics upgrade item you need to trade pages from savage alex with the person who sells esoterics weapons.
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SirPhoebos posted:How do I upgrade the Law/Esoteric weapons? Law weapons, you do clan hunts for Centurio Seals or just pile up the law so you can buy a Doman Whetstone, then trade that and your weapon to an Au Ra girl in Idyllshire for the upgraded one. Esoterics is the same, except instead of a Whetstone you need an Illuminati Gobdip, which I believe is from Savage Alexander floor 4?
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If you're having keybind fingerreach issues then rebind WASD to ESDF.
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Aug 10, 2015 22:32
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I use 1-6 and q, e, r, t, f, v along with ALT and CTRL versions for three full rows, with all skills on my PLD leaves me with a blank spot or two at 60. 6 and T are generally things I dont need in the thick of battle, like protect.
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Aug 10, 2015 22:35
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Brannock posted:If you're having keybind fingerreach issues then rebind WASD to ESDF. ESDF, heresy!
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Aug 10, 2015 22:38
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I play on a 360 pad, get hosed nerds.
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Aug 10, 2015 22:50
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LordSaturn posted:I play on a 360 pad, get hosed nerds. I pretty much play the entire game on just a mouse, M1+M2 to move, thumbpad = 12 configurable buttons, + 2 side buttons for ctrl / shift modifiers = 36 possible button combinations. This ensures my other hand can be completely unneeded thereby making drinking and playing that much easier.
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Aug 10, 2015 23:07
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Tenzarin posted:It is literally the easiest mechanic to learn, Fire3>fire4x3>Bliz3>Bliz4>repeat. OmG 4 buttons! If you're going to play BLM badly that's your own choice, but please stop spreading this poo poo around.
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Aug 10, 2015 23:20
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kirbysuperstar posted:If you're going to play BLM badly that's your own choice, but please stop spreading this poo poo around. Feel free to try to disprove it.
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Aug 10, 2015 23:22
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Tenzarin posted:Feel free to try to disprove it. This is going to sound crazy, but four Fire IVs and one Fire are better than three Fire IVs.
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LordSaturn posted:I play on a 360 pad, get hosed nerds. People keep asking how they can possibly fit all their skills on a standard keyboard layout. Then I look at myself with every monk skill plus five CC, sprint, LB, potions, mounts, chocobro actions, and ohshit chat macros squeezed onto a DS4 and all I can say is "
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Tenzarin posted:Feel free to try to disprove it. I'm tired of your poo poo. Your rotation is - less potency per second than F4/F4/F1/F4/F4/B3/B4/T1/F3 - does not have any room to fit in off GCDs or thundercloud procs, or you lose Astral Fire or a F4 - is significantly less mobile than mine - does not provide a benefit to Enochian uptime Never mind that your opener blows. For reference, the current one I find optimal is T-7s Sharpcast T-4s Quelling T-2s F1 Enochian - F3, Ley Lines, Raging - F4 - intpot - F1 - F4 - F4 - F4 - if no proc: Swiftcast - Flare - Convert - F4 - B3 if proc: F3 - Convert - F4 - F4 - F4 - B3 Now gently caress off.
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Aug 10, 2015 23:31
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Cue stupid one liner
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Tenzarin posted:BLM is easy mode. You don't even try to explain why 4 f4 is better than just 3 f4 with lightning. Nobody cares about your inability to math you lazy rear end.
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Never mind that the whole fixation on a rotation is laughable. Fire 4 until you need to refresh Fire or switch to Ice, fit procs in as appropriate, push cooldowns as appropriate. The only place where you can sort of create a proper order of commands is during your opener.
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Since SE prides its storyline so much and literally wants to force people to enjoy it before consuming expansion content I wish they would make it available to play through a second time on a different job. I'm leveling a DPS and I wouldn't mind reliving the story while making the leveling grind less boring. Why the gently caress did I ever level a tank first?
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KaneTW posted:I'm tired of your poo poo. Your rotation is 1. Fire4x3 is higher pot/s than F4/F4/F1/F4/F4/B3/B4/T1/F3 because it is shorter. 2. Rotation is shorter, plenty of times for procs. 3. Losing astral fire/fire 4 is just as bad in both rotations. 4. It is slightly less mobile, I agree. 5. Enochian only benefits you if it is up. You should never lose it. Your opener: Unless I missed something and int pots give you mana back there is no way you are casting 7 f4 unless you have increased your mana by like 3k. Will look into this int pot mana thing. Evil Fluffy posted:Nobody cares about your inability to math you lazy rear end. I have pictures with rough "math" but imgur wont let me upload. Will update later. Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Aug 11, 2015 |
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Int pots don't give mana. It might be 2 F4 for a total of 6, I'm checking. E: corrected math:  fakeedit: yeah it's Convert - F4 - F4 - B3. Typo in my post where I copied that from. KaneTW fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Aug 11, 2015 |
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Aug 11, 2015 00:39
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KaneTW posted:Int pots don't give mana. It might be 2 F4 for a total of 6, I'm checking. F4x3 is lower pot, see: Might be best to look at it without procs because they really skew it if they happen. I'm seeing f3>f4>f4>f4>b3 at 15s,1920 potency, and 128 pot/s. I'm seeing f3>f4>f4>f1>f4>f4>b3 at 20.5s, 2604 potency, and 127 pot/s. The longer rotation is going to give you the most problems during the middle of enochian before you can refresh it. I almost always found myself have to cut the longer rotation down from mana, movement, or enochian. I'm not calculating for the speed up from going astral fire > umbral. Edit: imgur worked Openers -  Rotations -  I added in the decreases and increases for astral fire and umbral ice. Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Aug 11, 2015 |
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Aug 11, 2015 00:51
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Brannock posted:If you're having keybind fingerreach issues then rebind WASD to ESDF. as someone who demands that the loving index finger feel the indent, i cannot condone this course of action.
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Obvious answer is to get a dedicated gamepad like a G13.
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Tenzarin posted:Might be best to look at it without procs because they really skew it if they happen. You're not counting b4 but: f3 f4 f4 f4 b3 is 14s (2.5*2 + 3*3) and 1954 potency (260*0.7 + 504*3 + 260) = 140pps f3 f4 f4 f1 f4 f4 b3 is 19.5s (2.5*3 + 3*4) and 2782 (260*0.7 + 504*4 + 324 + 260) potency = 142pps. E: had the wrong numbers, corrected: f3 f4 f4 f4 b3 is 14s (2.5*2 + 3*3) and 1848 potency (2*240*0.7 + 504*3) = 132pps f3 f4 f4 f1 f4 f4 b3 is 19.5s (2.5*3 + 3*4) and 2676 (2*240*0.7 + 504*4 + 324) potency = 137pps KaneTW fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Aug 11, 2015 |
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Aug 11, 2015 00:55
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Tenzarin posted:
Fix the potencies. E: I realised I've been using 260 for F3/B3 for some reason instead of 240. Doesn't change much though. KaneTW fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Aug 11, 2015 |
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KaneTW posted:No procs there. So can we atleast say they are close in damage. The reason for me to recommend it was that it was a simpler rotation that people couldn't some how deal with Enochian.
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KaneTW posted:Fix the potencies. So fire *1.8 and b3 *.7?
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Yes E: Fire*1.8, Flare*1.8. B3*0.7.
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Tenzarin posted:So can we atleast say they are close in damage. The reason for me to recommend it was that it was a simpler rotation that people couldn't some how deal with Enochian. It's not just Enochian, it's also Astral Fire. And your rotation is a lot less forgiving on that.
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KaneTW posted:Fix the potencies.  rotation  The longer one does work but at one point it is too long for enochian when the buff is below 20s. Maybe if you did a opener then did the f4x4 when enochian lasts > 20s and switch to the faster rotation when enochian is below 20s. To be correct, how do I calc the cast time for b3 in astral and for f3 in umbral? is it 50%? Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Aug 11, 2015 |
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You refresh Enochian after the second rotation (which is why it's no big deal if it falls off due to procs towards the end of your 25s rotation). The recast time doesn't change, just the cast time. You don't need to adjust anything. E: They should both be 2.5. They're only 3.5s when you let stacks drop, and that's not the case during your rotation. KaneTW fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Aug 11, 2015 |
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KaneTW posted:You refresh Enochian after the second rotation (which is why it's no big deal if it falls off due to procs towards the end of your 25s rotation). You would have to go into 3 rotations per enochian. Opener is 25-27 then rotations are 20s. You would be refreshing in in the middle of the rotation. Fixed them again, f3 wasn't updated & flare openers  rotations 
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Aug 11, 2015 01:08
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oh god, it's a wizard duel, everbody run for cover
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You might lose 1 Fire 4 every 3 rotations if you get a unlucky thundercloud proc (first half of the rotation) and you use it. Otherwise your Enochian expires right as the rotation ends which is fine.
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I had figured some damage would be lost, but both ways look solid. With your opener, why not swiftcast a f4 instead of flare? oh, something doesn't look right with flare. I thought flare didn't reset astral fire?
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It resets. I swiftcast a F4 in the proc opener (should edit that in). Flare is the better use of swiftcast when you don't get a proc (~75 nominal (i.e. what's on the tooltip) potency vs ~45 nominal potency) So proc opener looks something like sharpcast quelling f1 f3proc (ley/raging) f4 pot f1 (proc happens) f4 f4 f3proc (swiftcast) f4 (convert) f4 f4 b3 KaneTW fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Aug 11, 2015 |
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KaneTW posted:It resets. I swiftcast a F4 in the proc opener (should edit that in). Flare is the better use of swiftcast when you don't get a proc (~75 nominal (i.e. what's on the tooltip) potency vs ~45 nominal potency) Should I have 2.5 for the insta casts? I updated the rotations for f3 switch from umbral ice. rotations 
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Yeah, anything that's instant should be 2.5
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KaneTW posted:It resets. I swiftcast a F4 in the proc opener (should edit that in). Flare is the better use of swiftcast when you don't get a proc (~75 nominal (i.e. what's on the tooltip) potency vs ~45 nominal potency) Updated again, except for the f1 fishing opener which its safe to assume it does higher pot/s. Would have to have 2 full rotations, 1 with the f3 proc and without. opener  rotations  Safe to assume anyone can choose either rotation? I would bet best would be to do an opener>longer rotation>shorter rotationx2>repeat or opener>longer rotationx2>shorter rotation>repeat. Both ways are just a fracture apart! Edit: need to fix your f4 in the opener. They should be about equal. Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Aug 11, 2015 |
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I'm just gonna go poke poo poo with my lance then fire dragon lasers, peace
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