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oldpainless posted:rear end cream I believe Jericho was also involved in this. J&E&C were the best.
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Fsmhunk posted:Time to put oldpainless BACK in the bag. 
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triplexpac posted:That time WWE made him go to TNA for an announcement and he looked like he wanted to die He calls that the AJ Experience!
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Thauros posted:How close did this actually come to happening? Not close enough. STONE COLD TAKES THE BURNING HAMMER OH MY GAWD!!!!!!! (So in the alternate timeline he breaks his neck twice!  )
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Thauros posted:How close did this actually come to happening? closer than you think.
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sean10mm posted:Not close enough. Not that this wouldn't have been great to see, but Kobashi didn't break out the Burning Hammer for the first time until October of '98.
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Thauros posted:How close did this actually come to happening? the wwf WAS interested in signing kobashi but kobashi wanted to work ajpw dates along with wwf dates and wwf wanted him as a full-timer so it fell through
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Aug 11, 2015 21:10
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What are some of the most successfully-executed "rubs" in WWE history? It's a lot easier to think of the missed opportunities, especially with current discussion about Taker possibly absorbing the Streak rub, or misc. Hogan shenanigans over the years.
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Aug 11, 2015 21:12
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It's hard to think of two more different contemporaneous promotions than late 90s AJPW and WWF. That would've been so weird.
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Aug 11, 2015 21:13
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Minidust posted:What are some of the most successfully-executed "rubs" in WWE history? It's a lot easier to think of the missed opportunities, especially with current discussion about Taker possibly absorbing the Streak rub, or misc. Hogan shenanigans over the years. HHH getting the rub from Foley? i guess? maybe?
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Aug 11, 2015 21:18
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Corporate Kane posted:HHH getting the rub from Foley? i guess? maybe? Foley arguably made Edge too.
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Angular Landbury posted:Foley arguably made Edge too. yeah i forgot about that. Foley basically made a lot of people look really good.
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Aug 11, 2015 21:33
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Not WWE (except by way of corporate takeover) but Flair basically made Sting.
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Aug 11, 2015 21:39
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Scott Hall entirely made Sean Waltman.
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Minidust posted:What are some of the most successfully-executed "rubs" in WWE history? It's a lot easier to think of the missed opportunities, especially with current discussion about Taker possibly absorbing the Streak rub, or misc. Hogan shenanigans over the years. I'd say the Austin/Hart match at Wrestlemania 13 went a long way to make Austin a main eventer in the making, as well as give Bret Hart a breath of fresh air that kept him the main focus of the shows for nearly the rest of the year.
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Aug 11, 2015 21:51
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Foley gave Orton a huge boost in his feud with him, so much so that he was chosen to beat Benoit for the title. Then HHH demade him the following month.
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Corporate Kane posted:yeah i forgot about that. Foley basically made a lot of people look really good. Rocky too.
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ICHIBAHN posted:Rocky too. Foley didn't make The Rock, who had proven himself long before feuding with/teaming up with Foley. But The Rock became a more developed and interesting character through Rock & Sock for sure.
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Minidust posted:What are some of the most successfully-executed "rubs" in WWE history? It's a lot easier to think of the missed opportunities, especially with current discussion about Taker possibly absorbing the Streak rub, or misc. Hogan shenanigans over the years. It can't be overstated how big a deal Undertaker's first year push was just for happening during the Hogan Era. It wasn't 100% intentional either, but it made him seem godly. He was almost immediately thrust into a feud with the Ultimate Warrior that was made to promote house shows. The televised stuff was completely in Undertaker's favor, any Warrior victories were purely on the house show circuit (which they never mentioned on TV), and it then shifted into a Warrior/Jake Roberts feud where Warrior was immediately sidetracked into Hogan's feud with Slaughter. Then he was fired. By the time he came back, Undertaker was already a face, so you had a completely one-sided feud with Warrior on the loser's end. That in itself was major. But one thing I distinctly remember is a segment on Saturday Night's Main Event where Undertaker attacked Warrior and manhandled him. Rather than Warrior getting his second wind, becoming invincible and kicking Undertaker's rear end, they instead had Hogan run out to save him. Hogan ran into the ring and smashed Undertaker in the face with the championship belt. Undertaker reacted by backflipping over the top rope, landing on his feet and showing zero ill effects while glaring at Hogan before walking away. It's like if Kevin Owens made his Raw debut by powerbombing Cena... followed by no-selling an RKO.
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This Tuesday in Texas was also the first time Taker was seen as a credible title threat, wasn't it? I remember that being so weird to have an underpromoted Tuesday PPV and there being relatively little fanfare about what happened on it.
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Aug 11, 2015 23:08
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Tir McDohl posted:Foley didn't make The Rock, who had proven himself long before feuding with/teaming up with Foley. But The Rock became a more developed and interesting character through Rock & Sock for sure. Proven himself how, in feuds with midcard Shamrock / HHH? Talking shite. Foley added the element of legitimacy and violence for the Austin feud.
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Aug 11, 2015 23:16
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ICHIBAHN posted:Proven himself how, in feuds with midcard Shamrock / HHH? Talking shite. Foley added the element of legitimacy and violence for the Austin feud. The HHH match was seen by pretty much everyone but WWE as the birth of a new main event act in Rock. WWE saw it that way too, but for HHH. (Not that they didn't have big plans for Rock too.)
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sticklefifer posted:This Tuesday in Texas was also the first time Taker was seen as a credible title threat, wasn't it? I remember that being so weird to have an underpromoted Tuesday PPV and there being relatively little fanfare about what happened on it. Undertaker was champion by that point. After Summerslam (a PPV that really feels like a feel-good season finale if you ever watch it), Slaughter was done as a heel and main eventer, Warrior was gone and Hogan didn't really have anything to do other than wait for Ric Flair to show up and gain steam. Undertaker was briefly involved in the Sid/Savage/Jake Roberts angle until they decided to promote Hogan vs. Undertaker at Survivor Series as the "Gravest Challenge." It made sense since Undertaker had never really been shown to be vulnerable at all over that first year outside of losing some non-televised matches against Warrior and fighting Sid to a standstill, if that counts. Undertaker won the title via cheating, but then six days later he lost it back via cheating at Tuesday in Texas. The only real blowoff we got from Hogan vs. Undertaker was Hogan clotheslining him out of the Royal Rumble. Undertaker came out of that fairly unscathed, immediately turned face and spent the next couple years as a top-tier threat who rarely ever remembered that the world title was a thing he could easily win.
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What was the deal with OVW during the Ruthless Aggression era? Specifically after the class that famously featured Brock, Batista, Cena, and Orton. Almost everybody who came out of development was put on TV when they were 22 or younger and green as hell -- the Spirit Squad, Chris Masters, Hassan and Daivari, Rene Dupree (who is the youngest champ in WWE history, tag title holder at 19). I mean the most experienced guys who debuted in 04 were Snitsky and Luther Reigns.
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They just didn't really have anybody worth a poo poo. The best guys were probably never going to be future stars (The future Bashams, Rob Conway, Nick Dinsmore) and then you had the rest. At the time they were still prioritizing looks over everything else when hiring people.
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Minidust posted:What are some of the most successfully-executed "rubs" in WWE history? It's a lot easier to think of the missed opportunities, especially with current discussion about Taker possibly absorbing the Streak rub, or misc. Hogan shenanigans over the years. Jeff Hardy and Punk comes to mind.
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I know the matches where probably pretty good, but all I can remember from that feud was Punk making himself on the mic.
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DynamiteKidd posted:Ruthless Aggression era? i hate this name
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What are some examples of the WWE being overtly petty and spiteful? Like having Ryback squash JTG after he complained about not getting comped tickets and Cole saying "tweet that JTG!"
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Web Jew.0 posted:What are some examples of the WWE being overtly petty and spiteful? Like having Ryback squash JTG after he complained about not getting comped tickets and Cole saying "tweet that JTG!" 
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Web Jew.0 posted:What are some examples of the WWE being overtly petty and spiteful? Like having Ryback squash JTG after he complained about not getting comped tickets and Cole saying "tweet that JTG!" You've opened the flood gates, I hope you know what you're in for
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Web Jew.0 posted:What are some examples of the WWE being overtly petty and spiteful? Like having Ryback squash JTG after he complained about not getting comped tickets and Cole saying "tweet that JTG!" Everything involving the Young Bucks over the past year.
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Web Jew.0 posted:What are some examples of the WWE being overtly petty and spiteful? Like having Ryback squash JTG after he complained about not getting comped tickets and Cole saying "tweet that JTG!" The entirety of the WCW Invasion angle. Vince McMahon finally beats his only real competition and instead of using WCW's talent to bolster his success, he makes every WCW star look like an idiot by jobbing them out to mid-tier WWF wrestlers. And not just once, but many, many times over the course of the following years. He'd probably still be publicly flogging the corpse of WCW if he hadn't effectively handed the reins of his company to StepHHH.
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MagicCube posted:Everything involving the Young Bucks over the past year. Oh boy this poo poo again
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MagicCube posted:Everything involving the Young Bucks over the past year. Yeah the idea of trying to trademark a loving hand gesture that has been in use for decades because some guys who refused your offer of work use it is one of the heights of childish vindictiveness. DynamiteKidd posted:Oh boy this poo poo again Shine posted:Every Q&A megathread on the forums has topics that come up repeatedly. I couldn't tell you how many times I've had the same conversations in YLLS' questions megathread over the years. If this sort of thing annoys you so much, then maybe don't read Q&A megathreads.
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ecavalli posted:And not just once, but many, many times over the course of the following years. He'd probably still be publicly flogging the corpse of WCW if he hadn't effectively handed the reins of his company to StepHHH. they still did this with Sting even though Sting said "this isn't about WCW, that would be insane" and then they made everything about WCW and how bad it was in comparison
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Bard Maddox posted:they still did this with Sting even though Sting said "this isn't about WCW, that would be insane" and then they made everything about WCW and how bad it was in comparison Dammit! I'd almost managed to completely blot that out of my memory.
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Bard Maddox posted:they still did this with Sting even though Sting said "this isn't about WCW, that would be insane" and then they made everything about WCW and how bad it was in comparison sting spent weeks telling everybody that he was there to stop the injustice of the authority and that WCW was dead but he went and got the original NWO for backup anyway
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