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Is that where they do dumb stuff like having the whole team wear the sweater vest like they're Bradman at the start of play to strike fear into the heart of opponent
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Aug 11, 2015 02:11
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I've never heard the term "baggy green culture" in my life, but to me it only has negative connotations
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Aug 11, 2015 02:13
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Drugs posted:I've never heard the term "baggy green culture" in my life, but to me it only has negative connotations I've never heard that exact phrase, but Steve Waugh in particular was pretty well-known for being "devoted" or whatever to the baggy green. His idea was basically make his team respect what the hat represents (playing for Australia) and treating it like a privilege, not a right. Understand that you're part of a cricketing tradition that goes back through Border, Chappell, Simpson, Harvey, Benaud, Bradman and even further back. Mock it all you like, but I can see how that sort of thing is pretty appealing to a sporting team. And if there was anyone who was going to have a "pfft, yeah whatever GRANDAD" attitude towards that culture and tradition, it was always going to be Clarke.
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Aug 11, 2015 02:28
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Steve Waugh was a serial cheat. Is cheating part of what it means to wear the baggy green?
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Aug 11, 2015 02:47
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Drugs posted:Steve Waugh was a serial cheat. Is cheating part of what it means to wear the baggy green? He's an Australian who played sport right?
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Aug 11, 2015 02:48
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To me, if anything, the "baggy green culture" of recent years would be one of sustained excellence, punctuated by gracelessness in victory, petulance in defeat, and arrogance in all situations.
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Aug 11, 2015 02:49
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This last test needs to be something special. This is such a poo poo series and I don't mean the result - 2005 was amazing as I'm sure we all agree, and recent series have been one-sided in both directions but at least they provided some good cricket to watch. I would trade Australia not winning a series in the next twenty years for tests that go into the fifth day. Northern Ashes are my highlight of the cricket calendar, now we have four (or five?) years until the next. That's my disappointment, not the result but that we've had a dozen-odd days of play. I don't care who wins the final test, I just want to see some ups and downs, some compelling sessions*, some life! * OK, the first session of the previous test was compelling, but at the expense of the rest of the match.
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Aug 11, 2015 02:51
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Drugs posted:Steve Waugh was a serial cheat. Is cheating part of what it means to wear the baggy green? Is this a trick question
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Aug 11, 2015 02:54
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gabensraum posted:This last test needs to be something special. This is such a poo poo series and I don't mean the result - 2005 was amazing as I'm sure we all agree, and recent series have been one-sided in both directions but at least they provided some good cricket to watch. Short tests are great, it's just that these ones have been one sided rather than both sides struggling with the conditions. I think a one sided test that lasts 5 days would be just as bad to watch.
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Aug 11, 2015 02:57
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Warne hated the baggy green culture that Waugh was going for. It's no surprise that Clarke wasn't keen on it either.
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Aug 11, 2015 02:58
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Apropos of nothing, a mate of mine bumped in Shane Warne at dinner the other night and apparently Warnie was wearing a vest with shanewarne.com advertising plastered on it 
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Aug 11, 2015 03:03
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Burn Down Canberra posted:Warne hated the baggy green culture that Waugh was going for. It's no surprise that Clarke wasn't keen on it either. Did he? I thought Warne would have been all over it.
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Aug 11, 2015 03:07
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gay picnic defence posted:Short tests are great, it's just that these ones have been one sided rather than both sides struggling with the conditions. I think a one sided test that lasts 5 days would be just as bad to watch. I see your point and I'm probably overstating the play time factor. Five-day tests might be one-sided, but if they go the distance (without weather interruptions) it means a player or two in the losing team has managed a big century against the grain, giving everyone something worth watching. That's the kind of thing that has been lacking.
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Aug 11, 2015 03:07
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gay picnic defence posted:Did he? I thought Warne would have been all over it. He was not keen on the tradition, he was really not keen on being forced to wear the baggy green. Warne is about Warne pretty much.
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Aug 11, 2015 03:10
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gabensraum posted:I see your point and I'm probably overstating the play time factor. Five-day tests might be one-sided, but if they go the distance (without weather interruptions) it means a player or two in the losing team has managed a big century against the grain, giving everyone something worth watching. That's the kind of thing that has been lacking. Maybe, but more often it means that one team scores 600 in the first innings and 200 in the second to give themselves a 500+ buffer and four or five sessions to bowl out the opposition.
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Aug 11, 2015 03:10
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Drugs posted:Steve Waugh was a serial cheat. Is cheating part of what it means to wear the baggy green? cheating is part of what it means to play cricket.
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Aug 11, 2015 04:25
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Burn Down Canberra posted:He was not keen on the tradition, he was really not keen on being forced to wear the baggy green. Warne is about Warne pretty much. Ian Chappell doesn't really care about it either. He called it a $5 piece of cloth and he's claimed he doesn't even own one. Chappeli is the best.
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Aug 11, 2015 04:32
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Drugs posted:Steve Waugh was a serial cheat. Is cheating part of what it means to wear the baggy green? Uhhh..... the only cricketers who arent cheaters or a oval office is Steve Smith and OUR DAN. quote:I've never heard that exact phrase, but Steve Waugh in particular was pretty well-known for being "devoted" or whatever to the baggy green. His idea was basically make his team respect what the hat represents (playing for Australia) and treating it like a privilege, not a right. Understand that you're part of a cricketing tradition that goes back through Border, Chappell, Simpson, Harvey, Benaud, Bradman and even further back. That's exactly what it was about. Plus also to understand they are a team and what to play in a team means. I doubt it's a mere co-incidence the best team from Australia happened under Waugh's reign - there's always reports of Waugh backing the hell out of everyone and managing to get the best out of them consistently. Qualities Ponting and especially Clarke didnt have.
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Aug 11, 2015 06:49
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Ponting wasn't too bad. You can see how little Australian test team traditions meant to Clarke that time he wanted the team song hurried up so he could go and root Bingle on Packer's yacht or something. In Waugh's day the team song was sacred and being the guy who lead it was the highest honor after captaining the side itself.
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Aug 11, 2015 06:55
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Uhhh..... the only cricketers who arent cheaters or a oval office is Steve Smith and OUR DAN. "India has never ever produced a cheater or a oval office, and anyone who states otherwise in a public forum will be liable for their own words in a court of law" - BCCI
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Aug 11, 2015 07:01
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http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/aug/10/three-possible-australia-line-ups-to-take-the-field-in-the-first-test-in-bangladesh The experimental XI 1.Usman Khawaja, 2. Cameron Bancroft, 3. David Warner, 4. Steve Smith (captain), 5. Joe Burns, 6. Glenn Maxwell, 7. Peter Nevill, 8. Gurinder Sandhu, 9. Mitchell Starc, 10. Fawad Ahmed, 11. Nathan Lyon. 12th man: Peter Handscomb Who the hell is Gurinder Sandhu??
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Aug 11, 2015 07:02
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Negligent posted:Who the hell is Gurinder Sandhu?? A fast-ish bowler of Indian descent. I think he plays for NSW, so he's a shoe-in for a spot at some stage.
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Aug 11, 2015 07:05
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He had a good T20 season which says very little but apparently his first class form is good.
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Aug 11, 2015 07:09
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Schlesische posted:A fast-ish bowler of Indian descent. I think he plays for NSW, so he's a shoe-in for a spot at some stage. He made his ODI debut against England earlier this year.
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Aug 11, 2015 07:15
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How is he in front of Pattinson, Bird, Cummins and whoever else we have waiting in the wings to dish out broken fucken arms mate?
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Aug 11, 2015 07:22
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If the bloke has put Sandhu at 8 in front of Starc then I dont think he has watched much of Sandhu
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Aug 11, 2015 07:24
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Sandhu is the quick who's bowling offies on the A tour. Also that XI is an absolute 'wildest dreams' scenario. He even says that you could never pick them all in the same team. EDIT: 'that bloke' is Russ Jackson and he's our second best cricket writer after Gideon
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Aug 11, 2015 07:33
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Shmoses posted:Sandhu is the quick who's bowling offies on the A tour. Also that XI is an absolute 'wildest dreams' scenario. He even says that you could never pick them all in the same team. I didn't read the article and I like Jackson but that is a v bad team.
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Aug 11, 2015 07:36
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Why is there only two fast bowlers in that team. On an Australian pitch sandu and Starc would be bowled into an early grave Edit Oh I clicked the article and its for Bangladesh. Playing two spinners there might be OK but I still feel like its a bowler short.
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Aug 11, 2015 08:11
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The conservative XI is way more fun because it has Watson who, now, owns.
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Aug 11, 2015 08:24
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What if Watson was the flower who couldn't get any sunlight under Clarke and will now blossom into the most swole rose ever? Watto...
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Aug 11, 2015 08:25
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Uhhh..... the only cricketers who arent cheaters or a oval office is Steve Smith and OUR DAN Lyth never got a chance to cheat
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Aug 11, 2015 08:49
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Little Joe Root is far too innocent to cheat.
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Aug 11, 2015 09:00
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gay picnic defence posted:In Waugh's day the team song was sacred and being the guy who lead it was the highest honor after captaining the side itself. counterpoint: this is extremely lame and weird
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Aug 11, 2015 09:01
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RideTheSpiral posted:counterpoint: this is extremely lame and weird On the face of it yeah but if you were being cynical you'd say it - and other similar things - are a good way to keep people focused in the same way that having someone fighting you for your place does. It's just another little thing to make people go "Hey maybe I should actually give a poo poo"
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Aug 11, 2015 09:11
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MrL_JaKiri posted:On the face of it yeah but if you were being cynical you'd say it - and other similar things - are a good way to keep people focused in the same way that having someone fighting you for your place does. It's just another little thing to make people go "Hey maybe I should actually give a poo poo" Nah mate wrap it up I need to go bone Lara Bingle on Packer's yacht *gets choked out by Katich*
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Aug 11, 2015 09:15
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Team songs are a bit naff
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Aug 11, 2015 09:21
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Drugs posted:I didn't read the article and I like Jackson but that is a v bad team. Maybe you should have read it: quote:You couldn’t pick every one of these players in the one Test team, of course, but the side above contains a host of players who represent either a solid investment for the future or ‘horses for courses’ picks in spin-friendly conditions.
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Aug 11, 2015 09:33
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Shmoses posted:Sandhu is the quick who's bowling offies on the A tour. Seriously? quote:Who the hell is Gurinder Sandhu?? Fairly promising young fast-medium who can wobble the ball around off the wicket. The kind of bowler who would get bucket loads of wickets in England with seam movement, but not fast enough to get a test cap with the current Aussie selectors - example of Trent Copeland who is barely more than medium pace but is pretty drat good, he will never get selected again simply because he is not fast enough.
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Aug 11, 2015 09:38
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Shmoses posted:Maybe you should have read it: I didn't get where I am today by reading things before forming an opinion on them.
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Aug 11, 2015 09:42
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