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Are you a
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homeowner 39 22.41%
renter 69 39.66%
stupid peace of poo poo 66 37.93%
Total: 174 votes
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klen dool
May 7, 2007

Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.

puchu posted:

They all look like poo poo for faggots

Don't use the word "fag" or "human being" in a derogatory way. I find it offensive, and it hurts my feelings.

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klen dool
May 7, 2007

Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

I actually quite like rugby (surprise!) but I'm going to be really pissed off if we end up with a sports logo as our national flag. The committee obviously really like the silver fern, but its association with the ABs is too strong; it just doesn't belong there. Like, the NY Yankees have a nice logo, but I think the Americans wouldn't be happy if it replaced the stars and stripes.

I thought the silver fern would have a strong association with another sports team.

Lancelot
May 23, 2006

Fun Shoe

klen dool posted:

I thought the silver fern would have a strong association with another sports team.

The Tall Blacks?

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Lancelot posted:

The Tall Blacks?

All Whites, duh.

newtestleper
Oct 30, 2003
I think the silver fern is a general new Zealand symbol rather than one specific to sports
I think it's perfectly reasonable to have on a flag, but id prefer a koru

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free
Let's spend more money on flags IMO.

All the money!

whiter than a Wilco show
Mar 30, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Maybe one for each day of the week, bludy mury flag can be an hour on Wednesday to reflect their percentage of tax contribution.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

newtestleper posted:

I think the silver fern is a general new Zealand symbol rather than one specific to sports
I think it's perfectly reasonable to have on a flag, but id prefer a koru

Yea the people who get all "NO SILVER FERN BECAUSE SPORTSSSSSSSSSSS" should probably check what goes on our soldier's graves.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

I like the silver fern but all those rectangular abortions have convinced me that there's no way of implementing it in flag form that doesn't look like a pile of rectums. It's just the wrong shape and has the wrong flow for a national flag. Koru is much better.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free
Key's on it mates

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Looks good, man.

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
The worlds most beautiful and handsome prime minister man

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Slavvy posted:

I like the silver fern but all those rectangular abortions have convinced me that there's no way of implementing it in flag form that doesn't look like a pile of rectums. It's just the wrong shape and has the wrong flow for a national flag. Koru is much better.

"How many fuckin' leaves are there on this fuckin' thing?"

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

"you have to be able to draw it by hand" is a dumb criteria for a flag

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Is that an actual criteria?

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

No but a lot of the objections I've seen to designs are along those lines

spanky the dolphin
Sep 3, 2006

Slavvy posted:

Is that an actual criteria?

No. A common rule that is suggested is that it should be simple enough to be drawn by a child though.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Pretty sure children know how to use google and copy + paste well enough to get around that.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
I used to think that one of the main criteria for a flag was that a kid in Primary could draw it. So, y'know, no finicky bits like an AK-47, f'r instance.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

Somfin posted:

"How many fuckin' leaves are there on this fuckin' thing?"

There's actually only 1, each fern frond is one really large compound leaf.

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

Actually...

quote:

The 12 people on the panel issued an open letter yesterday saying what they thought a flag should be.

"A great flag should be distinctive and so simple it can be drawn by a child from memory," the letter said.

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

A human heart posted:

There's actually only 1, each fern frond is one really large compound leaf.

"How many fuckin' pinna are there on this fuckin' thing?"

swampland
Oct 16, 2007

Dear Mr Cave, if you do not release the bats we will be forced to take legal action
The silver fern can suck my dick

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



If silver ferns could do that I wouldn't be at work.

Binkenstein
Jan 18, 2010

Have a listen to this https://www.ted.com/talks/roman_mars_why_city_flags_may_be_the_worst_designed_thing_you_ve_never_noticed?language=en

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
Thanks for the link because I do care very deeply about the flag which is a very useful needed thing in these modern times

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug
its cool how much this costs

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

awesmoe posted:

its cool how much this costs

it would be free if it wasn't for those god drat drug addled dole collectors!

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

awesmoe posted:

its cool how much this costs

Yea they should just arbitrarily change it and not consult at all.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free
or they could...


not?

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

or they could...


not?

is there a reason for this beyond you personally not thinking the flag should change?

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free
It's an obvious fame grab by John Key, it's an enormous waste of taxpayer money and it's doubling as a massive distraction from Key's shady bullshit.

But no we should obviously change our flag and also big up the ruggers mate.

ledge
Jun 10, 2003

Butt Wizard posted:

is there a reason for this beyond you personally not thinking the flag should change?

I personally couldn't give a gently caress if the flag changes or what it changes to.

I do think that this it is a complete waste of money and that the flag changing should happen at the same time we become a republic, if that ever happens.

What picture is printed on a bit of cloth that is waved around is hardly important, and certainly not important enough to spend $25 million on.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free
Ledge, what about the ruggers mate?

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

It's an obvious fame grab by John Key, it's an enormous waste of taxpayer money and it's doubling as a massive distraction from Key's shady bullshit.

But no we should obviously change our flag and also big up the ruggers mate.

And if Labour was pushing it? Would you be up in arms about it then? I suspect most people currently opposed would be hailing it as a vital change in our country's forging of a post-colonial identity. You know, like when Labour got rid of our right to appeal to the Privy Council without running it past anyone. But that's just petty constitutional stuff, no need to consult anyone about that, nope!

You're also turning a blind eye to Andrew Little flip-flopping on his position on this but yea, focus on Key being 'shady'.

E: No you're right, what Key should be doing is making racist inferences from poorly-interpreted incomplete data and then crying when he's accused of being racist, because vilifying people with foreign names is apparently the kind of thing we should focus on instead of our flag.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

Butt Wizard posted:

And if Labour was pushing it? Would you be up in arms about it then?

Yes?

But it's good you got to try and put words in my mouth there.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Butt Wizard posted:

And if Labour was pushing it? Would you be up in arms about it then? I suspect most people currently opposed would be hailing it as a vital change in our country's forging of a post-colonial identity. You know, like when Labour got rid of our right to appeal to the Privy Council without running it past anyone. But that's just petty constitutional stuff, no need to consult anyone about that, nope!

You're also turning a blind eye to Andrew Little flip-flopping on his position on this but yea, focus on Key being 'shady'.

If labour were doing it, it would be an identically pointless waste of time, at least for me.

Andrew Little isn't the prime minister and I wouldn't want him to be if I had a choice.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free
*sexually assaults waitress, calls people homosexuals on air for the clothes they wear, actively spies on his people, breaking a law saying he can't do that, orders police hit on fat geman he doesn't like, makes police actions legal after the fact*

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER GUY??????????

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
I also don't really give a gently caress what the flag is, but people who talk about there being 'more important things to worry about' are idiots. It's a flag, there's always going to be kids in poo poo living conditions and governments can do more than one thing at a time.

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

*sexually assaults waitress, calls people homosexuals on air for the clothes they wear, actively spies on his people, breaking a law saying he can't do that, orders police hit on fat geman he doesn't like, makes police actions legal after the fact*

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER GUY??????????

THANKS FOR PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH

Butt Wizard fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Aug 11, 2015

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Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Thus, we come full circle to the fact that the flag changing 'debate' is almost entirely fabricated as a handy smokescreen to distract from the genuinely bad poo poo the government are doing. Yes, they can do more than one thing at once, but it's a little bit galling when tens of millions are spent on something nobody really gives a poo poo about just for a PR strategy.

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