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Duo posted:Is it still possible to get on Excalibur if I try early in the morning or something, or is it actually closed for good at the moment? If so I guess I'll just make my character on Hyperion End game crafting is a massive grind if you aren't rich and even when you get all the top end gear there's nothing currently wotthwhile to make with it. Lack of genuinely valuable recipes is the biggest problem.
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Duo posted:Is it still possible to get on Excalibur if I try early in the morning or something, or is it actually closed for good at the moment? If so I guess I'll just make my character on Hyperion It's getting pretty hard to get on excal. Your best bet is right after maintenance, or to cough up 18 dollars and transfer from another server.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 18:29 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:You shouldn't be spamming it. It also provides some mitigation by blinding all the mobs. Basically I flash only to grab initial hate on a pack and to keep the blind debuff up. Otherwise I'm goring blade and passing out shield bashes. if your team is heavy aoe you're going to need to spam flash to maintain hate trying to maintain goring blade with high dps is dicey because you'll often lose hate if the dps is doing really well also using shield swipe is an overall dps loss now
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 18:29 |
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So this just happened.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 18:33 |
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DRKs getting unleash which actually does damage and enmity generation for AoEs makes flash pretty pitiful in comparison. Now that I've got goring blade, it's kind of hard to determine when to use that over rage of halone, but yeah maintaining mob enmity is kind of hard unless you want to spam flash, which in that case you're not doing any damage.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 18:34 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:You shouldn't be spamming it. It also provides some mitigation by blinding all the mobs. Basically I flash only to grab initial hate on a pack and to keep the blind debuff up. Otherwise I'm goring blade and passing out shield bashes. That's not what I meant. Using flash at all really sucks.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 18:34 |
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I got tired of being a dragon man, so I made a Bad Financial Decision and actually bought a fantasia. I am now a handsome catte, however, so all is well. That's PROFESSOR catte to you
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 18:38 |
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There are a few very situational times when you want enmity but not damage, but there are far more times when you want both enmity and damage. PLD not having that option (outside of a tiny laughable bit from Circle of Scorn) is annoying.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 18:40 |
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General Morden posted:if your team is heavy aoe you're going to need to spam flash to maintain hate I run with people aoeing like crazy and have no problems holding hate. Spamming flash isn't necessary at all. Also yes I know swipe is a DPS loss right now but it's still good for passing out pacifications and some enmity on trash packs.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 18:40 |
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Paladin is also not helped by being the only tank that lacks a passive damage increase in their tanking stance - Warrior gets +20% from Maim, and DRK gets +15% from Darkside. If they wanted keep paladin unique while fixing that, a good place to start might be simply removing Shield Oath's offensive penalty to bring them in line with Maim/Darkside, rather than increasing their potency in general.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 18:46 |
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Or just make it so you can have both oaths on at the same time, like darkside and grit.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 18:54 |
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What is 'Fight or Flight'
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 18:55 |
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Doublestep posted:What is 'Fight or Flight' Not passive, that's what.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 19:00 |
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Fister Roboto posted:Not passive, that's what. Maim and Darkside aren't passives either
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 19:01 |
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IMO they need to buff catte and dragons by reducing tail clipping
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 19:02 |
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Kitfox88 posted:IMO they need to buff catte and dragons by reducing tail clipping Bring back 1.0 cat butts
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 19:06 |
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Doublestep posted:Maim and Darkside aren't passives either But neither are cooldowns, they're functionally up all the time.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 19:08 |
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Doublestep posted:Maim and Darkside aren't passives either Darkside's more of a toggle than a passive, I guess, but Maim absolutely is a passive - even without the combo bonus, it'd still be part of your highest DPS rotation thanks to Storm's Eye. What I meant was "Paladin has no always-on analogue to Maim or Darkside while tanking", which is still true. Because if you're doing your job, those should both be active nearly 100% of the time.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 19:09 |
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Sword oath is also a pretty boring stance. Woo, small potency increase to auto-attacks
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 19:19 |
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And Dark doesn't have a dps cooldown. Please stop trying to homogenize all of the tanks.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 19:20 |
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bonewitch posted:Shield swipe is technically a dps loss now being out of tp is far worse
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 19:23 |
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hobbesmaster posted:Well you see that he's talking about balance around savage statistics so it seems like it's entirely possible that only "savage quality" dps would out threat a tank that knows what they're doing. They don't though, unless the tank fucks up and does something like pull a boss without their tank (or any) stance up or a BLM crits repeatedly in their opener. seiferguy posted:Sword oath is also a pretty boring stance. Woo, small potency increase to auto-attacks Joke's on you. PLD is gonna get a Quickblade with a 1 second autoattack speed and then Sword Oath will really shine.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 19:23 |
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seiferguy posted:Sword oath is also a pretty boring stance. Woo, small potency increase to auto-attacks It doesn't add potency to auto attacks. It adds an additional attack after each auto attack. It's a separate. They updated the tooltip in heavensward to reflect this.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 19:28 |
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Evil Fluffy posted:They don't though, unless the tank fucks up and does something like pull a boss without their tank (or any) stance up or a BLM crits repeatedly in their opener. our pld loses aggro to the blm in a1 all the time because he pulls in sword oath and then gets cocky with royal authority All of our a1 clears have been mega clowny it kinda owns
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 19:32 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:It doesn't add potency to auto attacks. It adds an additional attack after each auto attack. It's a separate. They updated the tooltip in heavensward to reflect this. Oh right, I thought it was that but I checked one of those wiki pages and they said it added the potency. Though I'm not sure what the difference would be with it being added or separate, though.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 19:32 |
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You can (should) Shield Swipe once between Gorings because you have roughly one free GCD in a Goring-Halone-Royal rotation to use in order to avoid clipping your DOT (dependent on skill speed). If you have Bulwark, you can do four Shield Swipes (i.e. Swipe between parts of your RA/Goring combos) to replace Halone in your rotation at the cost of dropping the Halone debuff but saving yourself 70 TP and gaining 20 potency in damage. If you Swipe 2-3 times or more than 4 times you end up being in the middle of a combo when Goring falls off and is also extra bad if you're trying to squeeze two Gorings in one Fight or Flight.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 19:36 |
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seiferguy posted:Oh right, I thought it was that but I checked one of those wiki pages and they said it added the potency. Though I'm not sure what the difference would be with it being added or separate, though. an extra attack means you can miss.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 19:38 |
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Sword Oath is actually really good and cool. It's just that people don't notice it as much because it doesn't make their numbers bigger. But it's an extra ~25 potency per second when your normal rotation is around 150 pps.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 19:40 |
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Is it true that if you add a dungeon drop minion to your collection you can never roll on it ever again, while people who just want to sell it can keep rolling on it forever? Because that's really hosed up if true.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 19:55 |
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It's only true for untradable minions in my experience.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 19:56 |
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You can definitely roll on minions you already have.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 20:01 |
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Minions are pointless beyond selling until they let them always be out.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 20:04 |
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Eej posted:You can (should) Shield Swipe once between Gorings because you have roughly one free GCD in a Goring-Halone-Royal rotation to use in order to avoid clipping your DOT (dependent on skill speed). If you have Bulwark, you can do four Shield Swipes (i.e. Swipe between parts of your RA/Goring combos) to replace Halone in your rotation at the cost of dropping the Halone debuff but saving yourself 70 TP and gaining 20 potency in damage. If you Swipe 2-3 times or more than 4 times you end up being in the middle of a combo when Goring falls off and is also extra bad if you're trying to squeeze two Gorings in one Fight or Flight. I actually just did some math because I thought the gulf was larger, but it really isn't. Going GB, RA, RA and assuming one clip of the dot you end up with 251.11 repeating potency per GCD. Toss in a shield swipe and no dropped ticks, you end up with 251 potency per gcd. If you throw in a fracture instead of a shield swipe, you're at 252. If you're in a situation where you will clip 2 ticks, you want to do a fracture and a shield swipe somewhere in the middle. All this time before I had been looking at average potencies per combo and just assuming shield swipe and fracture were dps losses because they fell blow the average, but after I've actually calculated it, fracture and shield swipe do still absolutely have their place in a dps rotation for a single target fight. If you're doing multiple targets just goring blade all day long. On three targets you can rotate one between each and keep them up at all times.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 20:05 |
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Holyshoot posted:Minions are pointless beyond selling until they let them always be out. Not being able to have wind-up Nanamo on my shoulder while I stab bosses is a crime against humanity
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 20:06 |
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The only minion that matters is {fat cat}
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 20:11 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:I actually just did some math because I thought the gulf was larger, but it really isn't. Going GB, RA, RA and assuming one clip of the dot you end up with 251.11 repeating potency per GCD. Toss in a shield swipe and no dropped ticks, you end up with 251 potency per gcd. If you throw in a fracture instead of a shield swipe, you're at 252. If you're in a situation where you will clip 2 ticks, you want to do a fracture and a shield swipe somewhere in the middle. You do not want to use Fracture as a GCD filler because it costs 80 TP, which defeats the purpose of using Shield Swipe in the first place (to conserve it).
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 20:18 |
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Eej posted:You do not want to use Fracture as a GCD filler because it costs 80 TP, which defeats the purpose of using Shield Swipe in the first place (to conserve it). I'm thinking in more of maximizing DPS than TP conservation at the moment. Also you may not always be able to get a shield swipe proc. I'm just saying as a matter of DPS, if you are going to clip goring blade, it is better to use on of fracture or shield swipe then it is to clip. They effectively have a potency of 260 and 250 respectively because you're getting that extra goring blade tick. This works only if you will be clipping. If you're not clipping goring blade, using either shield swipe or fracture is a straight DPS loss.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 20:29 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:I'm thinking in more of maximizing DPS than TP conservation at the moment. Also you may not always be able to get a shield swipe proc. I'm just saying as a matter of DPS, if you are going to clip goring blade, it is better to use on of fracture or shield swipe then it is to clip. They effectively have a potency of 260 and 250 respectively because you're getting that extra goring blade tick. This works only if you will be clipping. If you're not clipping goring blade, using either shield swipe or fracture is a straight DPS loss.
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# ? Aug 11, 2015 20:34 |
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Sarrisan posted:It's getting pretty hard to get on excal. Your best bet is right after maintenance, or to cough up 18 dollars and transfer from another server. Actually, it's easier to go right before maintenance. I logged in at about 10:55 last night, and just kept getting to server selection, and then backing out until Excal was selectable. I made my character technically 4 minutes after maintenance started, and it didn't appear on the lodestone until this morning, but it seems a surefire way to get on.
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