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Woolie Wool posted:The Quake 2 way could have been even more Oh man this is some nightmare fuel. Also more than enough  to be cheesy but in a good way 
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Am I the only goon who really loves Heretic? To be more specific: Hexen is poo poo compared to Heretic.
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Aug 11, 2015 15:53
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Kazvall posted:Am I the only goon who really loves Heretic? To be more specific: Hexen is poo poo compared to Heretic. Nope. Heretic is awesome fun, Hexen is a boring switch hunt with crap weapon variety. Let's not even mention Hexen 2.
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Aug 11, 2015 15:58
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To be fair, Hexen is a lot better when played with Samsara and a couple friends.
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Aug 11, 2015 16:02
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Chinese Tony Danza posted:Show them that Quake is a good and fun game? The team leader at my last job played some with me around Christmas last year, going into it thinking it was going to be stupid. He came out of it wanting to get himself a copy. It was more of a rhetorical question. Once you are past 30 you shouldn't be trying to show people games anyway, unless its your kids.
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Aug 11, 2015 16:03
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People need incentive. I offered a friend who had never played Quake, 5 dollars to beat the first map on nightmare. He lost, but the very first words out of his mouth were, "Huh this game is pretty good". Just using EZquake btw.
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Aug 11, 2015 16:05
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SPACE HOMOS posted:It was more of a rhetorical question. Once you are past 30 you shouldn't be trying to show people games anyway, unless its your kids. -_-
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Aug 11, 2015 16:05
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Sharing your hobbies with people is uncool man.
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Aug 11, 2015 16:33
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Kazvall posted:Am I the only goon who really loves Heretic? To be more specific: Hexen is poo poo compared to Heretic. Nah this is straight up. Heretic's guns are just doom clones but Hexen doesn't have enough guns period. Classes were a cool idea but not if it means you run around swinging a sword at everything in an awkward early FPS. Compared to that some doom reskins are pretty fun. Especially the dragon...fist...thing...
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Aug 11, 2015 16:38
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The inventory system alone sets Heretic apart from Doom. Plus I feel the guns aren't just reskins but actually pretty cool in their own right. Especially when using a tome.
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Aug 11, 2015 17:13
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Heretic and Hexen are both good games and even Hexen 2 isn't bad.
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Aug 11, 2015 17:16
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Heretic is a better game than Hexen precisely because it is closer to Doom.
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Aug 11, 2015 17:29
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No question. Heretic is just fantasy Doom with an inventory, which is fantastic, while Hexen has a lot of good ideas and atmosphere but is dragged down by switchunts and too few weapons per class. They're both still fun and I replay each of them a couple times a year; I just wish someone would make some custom maps for Heretic.
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Aug 11, 2015 18:01
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Yep, there are only really two or so great mappacks for Heretic.
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Aug 11, 2015 18:04
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Jia posted:I just wish someone would make some custom maps for Heretic. Jia throws down the gauntlet.
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Aug 11, 2015 18:11
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If I had an ounce of creativity I'd do it myself. 
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Aug 11, 2015 18:13
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Kazvall posted:Am I the only goon who really loves Heretic? To be more specific: Hexen is poo poo compared to Heretic. The Tome is one of the best items in any FPS.
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Aug 11, 2015 18:13
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The Kins posted:I've never played CyClones, but Marphy made a video of it so I'm posting it here. Apparently 30 minutes of FMV were filmed for the CD-ROM version, but only 8 were actually used because they were the least-terrible bits.
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Aug 11, 2015 18:42
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If only Hexen had a bunch of good map packs, hell, give me something BTSX good for Hexen because I love the monsters, sounds and overall art of the game but gently caress that switch hunt.
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Aug 11, 2015 21:23
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Shadow Hog posted:Interesting, it seems to be a Wii FPS control scheme, but on the PC. I always wondered if somebody would do a combination FPS and lightgun style game. I think it'd be kinda cool to have an Area51 style game where one guy is just shooting and the other guy is driving. 
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Aug 11, 2015 21:29
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Zaphod42 posted:I always wondered if somebody would do a combination FPS and lightgun style game. Lucky and Wild?
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Aug 11, 2015 21:30
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Zaphod42 posted:I always wondered if somebody would do a combination FPS and lightgun style game. They tried to make a Time Crisis like that. It was bad. God, I would kill to have them rerelease TC 2 & 3...
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Aug 11, 2015 21:34
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site posted:They tried to make a Time Crisis like that. I have TC 2&3 on PS2 with a loving bitchin' light gun that actually kicks when you shoot it 
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Aug 11, 2015 21:36
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Zaphod42 posted:I have TC 2&3 on PS2 with a loving bitchin' light gun that actually kicks when you shoot it I used to and my biggest video game related regret is giving those up.
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Aug 11, 2015 21:42
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elf help book posted:Lucky and Wild? I loved this game so much. Too much.
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Aug 11, 2015 21:52
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The Kins posted:I've never played CyClones, but Marphy made a video of it so I'm posting it here. Apparently 30 minutes of FMV were filmed for the CD-ROM version, but only 8 were actually used because they were the least-terrible bits. This was just kind of bland from what I can remember. The only weapon I really remember from it was a quad laser gun that was pretty fun to hose stuff down with. It's really only memorable to me because it was the first FPS game I played that required keyboard+mouse to play. You could play it without a mouse I think, but I don't believe it was an enjoyable experience. Wish I had more to say about it, but it was just so generic that nothing really stands out to me when I think about it. EDIT: Sorry it was triple barreled laser gun not a quad. You can see it on the box art: 
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Aug 11, 2015 21:56
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elf help book posted:Lucky and Wild? When I got my neogeo cab from a friend, he also had this. Needless to say, we played it. Also, I am still extremely jealous.
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Aug 11, 2015 22:45
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Honestly forgot that it's Raven's game. There's a very cheap loose CD on an auction site where I buy my old games, definitely going to grab it soon. Also, it reminds me of Creature Shock, a 2 CD FMV game, which tried to mix traditonal Myst first-person perspective adventuring with a lot of shooting via lightgunesque shooting.
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Aug 11, 2015 22:50
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elf help book posted:Lucky and Wild? How have I never seen this game?! 
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Zaphod42 posted:How have I never seen this game?! That game looks loving BAD rear end holy poo poo.
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Aug 11, 2015 23:15
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Kazvall posted:Am I the only goon who really loves Heretic? To be more specific: Hexen is poo poo compared to Heretic. My only problem with Hexen is the levels. I'd like it a lot more if it was more straightforward like Heretic. I don't even object to the more limited weapon selection (though it could use more), but the whole hub system is a gigantic pain in the rear end. I made it past Seven Portals once and I hate, absolutely hate, the Guardian of Steel. Heretic is awesome though. It does need more maps and poo poo made though, I agree with Jia.
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I think I'd be more okay with the Hexen hub structure if it opened up by giving you new abilities that'd let you reach areas you could see before but were tantalizingly out-of-reach - or, perhaps, by implementing a little basic point-and-click adventure logic by having more inventive locks-and-keys (eg: there's an apparent way forward, but there's a wall of ice blocking the path, so you can't pass through... until you find a Lava Stone in another map of the hub, and use it to melt the ice). Y'know, anything more inventive than the "here's a switch; it opened a door somewhere; we're not telling you which door specifically; go waste time looking for something vaguely new" that the Seven Portals offered.
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Aug 11, 2015 23:38
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Shadow Hog posted:I think I'd be more okay with the Hexen hub structure if it opened up by giving you new abilities that'd let you reach areas you could see before but were tantalizingly out-of-reach Metroid figured this out in the mid-80s but it took a while to translate properly to 3D.
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Shadow Hog posted:I think I'd be more okay with the Hexen hub structure if it opened up by giving you new abilities that'd let you reach areas you could see before but were tantalizingly out-of-reach - or, perhaps, by implementing a little basic point-and-click adventure logic by having more inventive locks-and-keys (eg: there's an apparent way forward, but there's a wall of ice blocking the path, so you can't pass through... until you find a Lava Stone in another map of the hub, and use it to melt the ice). One-third of the puzzle was solved in the Seven Portals.
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haveblue posted:Metroid figured this out in the mid-80s but it took a while to translate properly to 3D. System Shock 1 did it pretty well before Hexen came out. Jia posted:One-third of the puzzle was solved in the Seven Portals. There are worse puzzles than that in later hubs. One ninth of the puzzle was solved in the Shadow Wood  I remember the stars and planets puzzle being infuriating too. Woolie Wool fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Aug 12, 2015 |
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Aug 12, 2015 00:08
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Maybe this is less of an oldschool specific question, but what are all the FPS games with mixed akimbo weapons? Halo 2 and 3 do it, and I seem to recall some older FPS doing it, but I can't recall. I know you can do a lot of akimbo stuff in GoldenEye and Perfect Dark, I forget if you can mix and match though. Also, what are some games that let you do akimbo for guns other than pistols? Blood letting you do guns akimbo with bigger guns is the first one to come to mind. And dual Uzi's in Shadow Warrior I suppose. Looking for the John Woo history of the FPS genre.
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Aug 12, 2015 00:39
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The new Wolf games have akimbo everything.
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haveblue posted:Metroid figured this out in the mid-80s but it took a while to translate properly to 3D. Jia posted:One-third of the puzzle was solved in the Seven Portals. Heavy Metal posted:Maybe this is less of an oldschool specific question, but what are all the FPS games with mixed akimbo weapons? Halo 2 and 3 do it, and I seem to recall some older FPS doing it, but I can't recall. Also for some reason I was mixing up Blood's dual-wielding power-up as one that Rise of the Triad had, which let you dual-wield rocket launchers. I now wish that this was reality and not just a silly mix-up on my part.
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Heavy Metal posted:Maybe this is less of an oldschool specific question, but what are all the FPS games with mixed akimbo weapons? Halo 2 and 3 do it, and I seem to recall some older FPS doing it, but I can't recall. You could mix and match a lot of weapons in Goldeneye, but it was actually a bug from cycling weapons a certain way.
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girth brooks part 2 posted:You could mix and match a lot of weapons in Goldeneye, but it was actually a bug from cycling weapons a certain way.
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