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bull3964 posted:I eagerly await a Car vs Amazon Drone delivery challenge. They could race a copy of Ben Collins's book to try and intercept its delivery!
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Well now they can't do that idea for fear of you suing them over stealing your idea. STOP POSTING GOOD IDEAS 
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Aug 6, 2015 12:17
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Amazon, I'll take 5%. I'm not greedy.
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Aug 6, 2015 13:16
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It'd be cool if they got Ben Collins to drive cars around their track, not calling him the Stig or anything, just to piss the BBC off.
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Aug 6, 2015 15:20
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He's not the Stig, but he is the non-copyright infringing version of the cousin of the Stig!
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Aug 6, 2015 16:42
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CornHolio posted:It'd be cool if they got Ben Collins to drive cars around their track, not calling him the Stig or anything, just to piss the BBC off.
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HolyDukeNukem posted:He's not the Stig, but he is the non-copyright infringing version of the cousin of the Stig!
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Aug 7, 2015 19:47
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He's not the stig, but he is... The Stog.
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Aug 7, 2015 21:09
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hopterque posted:He's not the stig, but he is... This is a joke for pretty much no one. http://tindeck.com/listen/lvwep
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88h88 posted:I would genuinely watch a show where it was everyone's job to rile Clarkson to the point of him flipping out and trying to fight them.
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Aug 7, 2015 21:25
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Sinestro posted:This is a joke for pretty much no one. http://tindeck.com/listen/lvwep Actually it's a joke for people who watch Top Gear  [1401] Some say that in the Autumn all his arms go brown and fall off. And that if he wrote you a letter of condolence he would at least get your name right. All we know is hes called the Stog.
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Aug 8, 2015 01:47
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Some say that because our producer rigged a phone vote he has a new name. All we know is...his name is Cuddles!
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Aug 8, 2015 07:32
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So re watching the Hammond Canadian Rescue episode again. I realized Clarkson had a TPMS light on the entire journey. My point is, I wonder if that's why his tire came off cause it finally all leaked out. Completely rhetorical post btw, I just had to say something about it somewhere.
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Aug 12, 2015 02:26
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I have them all winter long because I didn't spring for the sensors in the winter wheels. They probably don't have stock tires and wheels on for all of that off-road stuff.
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Aug 12, 2015 02:56
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TSPM lights are also pretty well know for going off on a bunch of car makes due to the fact they don't test them for a Canadian winter, GM cars are horrible for it.
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GutBomb posted:I have them all winter long because I didn't spring for the sensors in the winter wheels. They probably don't have stock tires and wheels on for all of that off-road stuff. If there was a problem with or lack of sensors the light would blink. I dont know about Canadian laws, but in the US legally you have to have a TPMS sensor in any car that came OE with one. (Thank you Firestone Tires and Ford Explorers) I dont know what that means for owners but as a shop, were not allowed to have a car leave the shop with a normal valve stem if they came in with a sensor. (although i dont know if Raptors rock band sensors cause Ford.) True that cold weather lowers your air pressure and will set a sensor off, but you would think they would air up the tires if that were the case.
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The sensors just freak out when you lower the pressures for off-road. Not a big deal.
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Preoptopus posted:If there was a problem with or lack of sensors the light would blink. I dont know about Canadian laws, but in the US legally you have to have a TPMS sensor in any car that came OE with one. That's really not true at all. Hell, I had my car inspected at the dealership last year with my 16"s and snow tires on with the TPMS light on solid due to it. They give no fucks. Tirerack sold me a set of wheels/tires that I specifically said was for a 2011 MY which obviously came with TPMS and they allowed me to leave it off. Furthermore, roadworthiness laws are dictated by the state, not federally. Federal can mandate the standards the cars need to go on sale, but federal has really no say with how cars operate after they are sold. That's 100% up to state laws.
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InitialDave posted:So a more middle-aged version of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm_niiQfeWc? Pretty much.
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bull3964 posted:That's really not true at all. Federal law prohibits manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or motor vehicle repair businesses from knowingly making inoperative, in whole or in part, any part of a device or element of design installed on or in a motor vehicle in compliance with an applicable motor vehicle safety standard. TPMS is a motor vehicle safety standard. In your case, the dealer didn't care because the TPMS system was not operational when you brought it in. Tire Rack has no care, control or responsibility with regards to your vehicle's TPMS system.
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meatpimp posted:Federal law prohibits manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or motor vehicle repair businesses from knowingly making inoperative, in whole or in part, any part of a device or element of design installed on or in a motor vehicle in compliance with an applicable motor vehicle safety standard. TPMS is a motor vehicle safety standard. That still doesn't track with what Preoptopus said though. He said that any car is that came with TPMS as OE is "legally required to have the sensor." That's not true. Repair places cannot disable the sensor or any part of the TPMS system in general. They are, however, under no legal requirement to either 'repair' a TPMS system that's nonfunctional when the car arrives or refuse to fit tires onto wheels without sensors that are intended for a car that had TPMS. It is perfectly legal to operate a motor vehicle with a non-functional TPMS system either through disrepair or intentionally due to lack of sensors. The whole point of the supposition was that the TPMS light couldn't have been from lack of sensors on due to them not being able to legally fit wheels and tires on to the car that lacked sensors. That is simply not true. They could have rolled up to any tire place with rims and tires and had the tires installed without TPMS. They could have even told the tire place, "We're going to put these wheels without TPMS on this new vehicle that clearly has TPMS." and they wouldn't have been able to say boo about it. Besides, even installing wheels without sensors is not making the system inoperable. It is still 100% operable because it's telling you there's a fault in the system for not being able to communicate with the sensors. What repair places absolutely cannot do is disable the system to make the warning light go away.
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If their is one feature I'd love to pull out of my car it's the TPMS feature.
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bull3964 posted:Tirerack sold me a set of wheels/tires that I specifically said was for a 2011 MY which obviously came with TPMS and they allowed me to leave it off. I don't know anything about the laws but at least this has changed. Tire Rack will not allow me to spec a set of winter wheels/tires for a 2015 Fiesta ST without including TPMS, nor will they allow the creation of a mounted/balanced wheel and tire package without specifying a vehicle. I'm currently trying to find a vehicle to select that's close enough to let me spec the right parts but not require TPMS. A few weeks ago mid-00s Focuses used to work, but they don't seem to now.
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wolrah posted:I don't know anything about the laws but at least this has changed. Tire Rack will not allow me to spec a set of winter wheels/tires for a 2015 Fiesta ST without including TPMS, nor will they allow the creation of a mounted/balanced wheel and tire package without specifying a vehicle. I'm currently trying to find a vehicle to select that's close enough to let me spec the right parts but not require TPMS. A few weeks ago mid-00s Focuses used to work, but they don't seem to now. I was just able right at this moment to select a winter wheel/tire package for a 2015 BRZ and I was presented with this option at checkout. "Mount and balance the tires on the wheels without TPMS sensors. I will have my service provider transfer my existing TPMS sensors or install new TPMS sensors obtained locally. Local installer charges will apply." TPMS wouldn't be so bad if they would have forced manufactures to provide a way to marry the sensors to the car without a specialized tool. Some cars allow it, some cars do not. None of my cars do. I'm not going to spend several hundred dollars on a tool that I can only use on a limited number of vehicles just so I can swap wheels between seasons without having to make a trip to a tire place to re-marry the sensors. Otherwise, I would happily put TPMS sensors in all my wheels. Actually, they should have just mandated that TPMS has to have an wheelspeed sensor fallback and that's all that's necessary to comply with the law. Manufacturers would be free to include sensors in the wheels for more exact readings if they wanted to, but wheelspeed sensors are good enough for safety. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Aug 12, 2015 |
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I had new wheels/tires put on at a local shop and the guy got them from tire rack for me but it wasn't until after he did the work that he realized my oem tpms wouldn't fit in the wheels so he said I could order them from tire rack myself and he'd install them for free later. So I assume he was able to buy the wheels/tires without the tpms just fine.
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bull3964 posted:That still doesn't track with what Preoptopus said though. It actually did. Preoptopus said that you have to have a working TPMS system in a car that came with one. That is technically true. Shops cannot disable or render inoperative working TPMS systems. Individuals are not allowed to either, but nobody will ever take action on that. I was responding to your comment that the Feds have no say in it, and that's not true... it is governed under Federal law.
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I love the TPMS on my Leaf. I had a wire puncture one of my snow tires between the sipes that would only leak if I parked on it exactly perfectly, so it would go weeks before the air would go down enough to set off the TPMS light. Took three tries at the tire shop to find that little fucker. Just the other day it let me know I had a low tire. Right rear was 3 pounds low. When I hook up a compressor it flashes the hazards and chimes the lock chime when the tire is up to pressure without needing to stop constantly to check a gauge.
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Preoptopus posted:So re watching the Hammond Canadian Rescue episode again. I realized Clarkson had a TPMS light on the entire journey. My point is, I wonder if that's why his tire came off cause it finally all leaked out. Completely rhetorical post btw, I just had to say something about it somewhere. See what you did to this thread? Everyone moaning about TPMS now.
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Ohhh hello http://www.grapevinejobs.com/executive_mediajobs/48562,Producer_The_New_Clarkson_Hammond_and_May_Car_Show.html *applies*
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I hope one of the qualifications is, "Must be able to take a slap to the face and not go crying home to mommy." Although to be fair the producer Clarkson slapped didn't do anything about it and it was only when Clarkson told the BBC that they took action.
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meatpimp posted:It actually did. Preoptopus said that you have to have a working TPMS system in a car that came with one. That is technically true. Shops cannot disable or render inoperative working TPMS systems. Individuals are not allowed to either, but nobody will ever take action on that. Thanks for having my back to clarify what I was saying was that if a car comes in for a tires and their sensor is corroded to poo poo and is leaking, I cant simply put a regular valve stem in and send them on their way. They have to purchase a new tmps sensor or leave on a spare tire and then do whatever by themselves. My original point was that I doubt that Hennessey or Ford for that matter knowingly let Clarkson drive a press car with a TPMS light on. Therefore he must have had a leak. Preoptopus fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Aug 13, 2015 |
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mod sassinator posted:I hope one of the qualifications is, "Must be able to take a slap to the face and not go crying home to mommy."
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Nill posted:(1 freebee per series, subsequent punches result in forced caravanning segments) "Have to make a 3 minute promo for the next Piers Morgan TV project"
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Nill posted:This must be how Amazon edged out Netflix. Contractually allowed punching of producers. (1 freebee per series, subsequent punches result in forced caravanning segments) Amazon had a bigger van to carry the money in, since they do so many deliveries.
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My suspicion was that Amazon offered to be more hands off. In the interview with Andy Wilman he specifically mentioned that they wanted to work with a company that wasn't going to interfere with the process. I'm guessing Netflix wanted to push certain things and they were uncomfortable with those sorts of stipulations.
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HolyDukeNukem posted:My suspicion was that Amazon offered to be more hands off. In the interview with Andy Wilman he specifically mentioned that they wanted to work with a company that wasn't going to interfere with the process. I'm guessing Netflix wanted to push certain things and they were uncomfortable with those sorts of stipulations. Of course things could blow up in Amazon's face with the hands off agreement.
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Preoptopus posted:Thanks for having my back to clarify what I was saying was that if a car comes in for a tires and their sensor is corroded to poo poo and is leaking, I cant simply put a regular valve stem in and send them on their way. They have to purchase a new tmps sensor or leave on a spare tire and then do whatever by themselves. My original point was that I doubt that Hennessey or Ford for that matter knowingly let Clarkson drive a press car with a TPMS light on. Therefore he must have had a leak. Or, you know, they just dropped 10 psi from each tire for better traction.
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Preoptopus posted:Thanks for having my back to clarify what I was saying was that if a car comes in for a tires and their sensor is corroded to poo poo and is leaking, I cant simply put a regular valve stem in and send them on their way. They have to purchase a new tmps sensor or leave on a spare tire and then do whatever by themselves. My original point was that I doubt that Hennessey or Ford for that matter knowingly let Clarkson drive a press car with a TPMS light on. Therefore he must have had a leak. All of you guys realise that the episode took place in Canada right? We don't have those TPMS laws here, everyone is allowed to put winters on that don't have TPMS valves.
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HolyDukeNukem posted:My suspicion was that Amazon offered to be more hands off. In the interview with Andy Wilman he specifically mentioned that they wanted to work with a company that wasn't going to interfere with the process. I'm guessing Netflix wanted to push certain things and they were uncomfortable with those sorts of stipulations. Oh yeah here's the full interview/article thing about Amazon's Not Top Gear http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/how-amazon-secured-the-top-gear-team/5091326.article Broadcast posted:How Amazon secured the Top Gear team
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:Wilman says: There was Richard in Ross-on-Wye with no phone signal. Jeremy thought he was Richard Branson it was like hed swallowed a business book you buy at an airport. Then James would fixate on a point, saying, Im sorry to go back on this, but It went on and on like this. This sounds exactly like something they'd film as a bit for the show.
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