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drrockso20 posted:So a portion of an upcoming episode of the Cartoon Network series The Amazing World of Gumball just leaked and they directly reference the term Super Saiyan, it's kinda surreal I mean Billy and Mandy had them use a magic chickenball to win a martial arts tournament by allowing them to go into a super state with blonde hair. A lot of shows have referenced DBZ in America: it's a thing.
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Covok posted:I mean Billy and Mandy had them use a magic chickenball to win a martial arts tournament by allowing them to go into a super state with blonde hair. A lot of shows have referenced DBZ in America: it's a thing. No I mean they outright say the term Super Saiyan in the show
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You have to figure there are a lot of writers and animators around that are old enough to have DBZ, Robotech and Sailor Moon be big influences. Also, there's an entire generation that grew up watching a weird parallel universe where Krillin was a bad rear end mystical kung-fu -- no wait that's Shaolin Showdown FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Aug 12, 2015 |
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FilthyImp posted:Also, there's an entire generation that grew up watching a weird parallel universe where Krillin was a bad rear end mystical kung-fu -- no wait that's Shaolin Showdown it's Xiaolin actually, and that show was actually pretty good(although it's sorta-sequel Xiaolin Chronicles is terrible for a ton of reasons)
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drrockso20 posted:it's Xiaolin actually, and that show was actually pretty good(although it's sorta-sequel Xiaolin Chronicles is terrible for a ton of reasons) There was a sequel? What would it even be about?
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Covok posted:There was a sequel? What would it even be about? And everyone gets super kung-fu artifacts
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Covok posted:There was a sequel? What would it even be about? also like Scooby-Doo, it's basically a retread of the original in really weird ways.
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FilthyImp posted:True to the Scooby-Doo formula of torching franchises, they add a scrappy French lookalike to the Krillin knockoff. Stallion Cabana posted:also like Scooby-Doo, it's basically a retread of the original in really weird ways. Covok posted:There was a sequel? What would it even be about? it also ignores most everything about the finale, and due to some copyright shenanigans they had to rename all the Shen Gong Wu
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Why is DBS on a shoestring budget if its a sequel from like one of the most popular animes around? Theres no excuse for being cheap. Look at Attack on Titan, the animation is pretty loving amazing and high end and it was produced with absolutely no guarantee that it would ever be successful. Toei are just greedy idiots.
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Athropos posted:Why is DBS on a shoestring budget if its a sequel from like one of the most popular animes around? Theres no excuse for being cheap. Look at Attack on Titan, the animation is pretty loving amazing and high end and it was produced with absolutely no guarantee that it would ever be successful. Toei are just greedy idiots. Because people will watch it and buy the merchandise regardless, because it's DBZ.
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Athropos posted:Why is DBS on a shoestring budget if its a sequel from like one of the most popular animes around? Theres no excuse for being cheap. Look at Attack on Titan, the animation is pretty loving amazing and high end and it was produced with absolutely no guarantee that it would ever be successful. Toei are just greedy idiots.
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Athropos posted:Why is DBS on a shoestring budget if its a sequel from like one of the most popular animes around? Theres no excuse for being cheap. Look at Attack on Titan, the animation is pretty loving amazing and high end and it was produced with absolutely no guarantee that it would ever be successful. Toei are just greedy idiots. Attack on Titan was a very successful manga before it got an anime, and even then it had some glaring animation flaws. But yes, Toei are just greedy idiots. They did the same thing in Sailor Moon Crystal.
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Neo_Crimson posted:Attack on Titan was a very successful manga before it got an anime, and even then it had some glaring animation flaws. Did the Bluray fix it all with Sailor Moon Crystal? If so, we'll get the good version in the end.
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hey you're only a greedy idiot if it doesn't work
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Well, you see, blah blah blah state of the industry blah blah blah cheap cash-in on nostalgia blah blah blah Toei always does this.Covok posted:Did the Bluray fix it all with Sailor Moon Crystal? If so, we'll get the good version in the end.
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Athropos posted:Why is DBS on a shoestring budget if its a sequel from like one of the most popular animes around? Theres no excuse for being cheap. Look at Attack on Titan, the animation is pretty loving amazing and high end and it was produced with absolutely no guarantee that it would ever be successful. Toei are just greedy idiots. are you trolling because you got me good HGH posted:Well, you see, blah blah blah state of the industry blah blah blah cheap cash-in on nostalgia blah blah blah Toei always does this. toei rarely does bd fixes actually
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aers posted:are you trolling because you got me good probably cause most of Toei's shows are aimed squarely at little kids who almost never notice this sort of thing, Sailor Moon Crystal, and Dragon Ball Super are kinda different though as they both have a huge adult and international market so there's actually a reason to fix things up here(I suspect more than anything that's why Super hasn't been licensed yet, they want probably fix up at least half of it before offering it to Funimation)
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There is very little chance Super gets BD fixes.
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It took them a while to get round to dubbing the Buu saga of Kai, didn't it? Doesn't seem that Toei move with great speed on these things in terms of getting the ball rolling.
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aers posted:There is very little chance Super gets BD fixes. what makes you say that?
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drrockso20 posted:what makes you say that? Decades of history?
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Tae posted:Decades of history? Ah yes, the decades of blu-rays being on the market. Clever.
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Shards of Fate posted:Whoops forget to attach this in my previous post. to be fair SS3 has always made goku look like a neanderthal idiot
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aers posted:There is very little chance Super gets BD fixes. I would have agreed with you, but then, why did Crystal get them?
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So I just saw Revival of F and it was really good. People were laughing their asses off in the theater. Japanese humor usually really sucks but Dragon Ball is universal. It's sad to hear that Super isn't as good. I guess it's just a retelling of Battle of the Gods and Revival of F?
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Gammatron 64 posted:So I just saw Revival of F and it was really good. People were laughing their asses off in the theater. Japanese humor usually really sucks but Dragon Ball is universal. It starts with a retelling of BoG and RoF, but then will be running new material as I understand.
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I was enjoying Super but I just watched Battle of Gods and now I don't like it anymore.
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The other thing to remember is that more than any budget issue, Toei seems honestly quite terrible at managing a production schedule that isn't for its movies and/or OVAs, though honestly such is a wider issue in the industry at large (as previous pages can enlighten on). Toei outputs a lot though, and often on a regular, weekly basis, with many shows stretching close to a hundred episodes or more (with the most obvious case closer to one thousand), and several are franchises that immediately move into a sequel the next week after finishing. And Super... honestly seems like it was announced on short notice, in hindsight.
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Super's production schedule is comically tight if the director's work schedule is anything to go by. Anyway the reason I don't think it'll get any BD fixes is because One Piece doesn't AFAIK and the two shows are part of an hourly block with the same target audience. One Piece is one of the better selling daytime shows BD-wise (but only the season collection boxes or whatever, not individual discs, I'm not sure they even release those anymore) and even then it doesn't sell fantastically for how huge it is. Yet there have been recent years where One Piece was 50% of Toei's domestic licensing income. Crystal got BD fixes because the character designer basically abandoned the TV series to spend the entire past year correcting older episodes and they had an expanded release schedule because of the bimonthly garbage. She actually just tweeted today that she's officially done with the project, so I'm curious how many fixes there will be in later BD volumes (and tbh I'm not even sure when the last BD comes out).
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Super is good when it's not covering material we've already seen. We're in the middle of covering material we've already seen. The reasons for this is that it then becomes a direct comparison with something more concise and better animated.
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Holy hell where does the DBM find these artists for the bonus chapters? I want the Gast special dude back.
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aers posted:Anyway the reason I don't think it'll get any BD fixes is because One Piece doesn't Oh wow, didn't know that. God drat, man, that adaptation sure did turn into poo poo in the last few years. I just can't tolerate the one chapter/one episode format. It's not like One Piece is a briskly paced story to begin with. I really hope more anime in the future aren't going to follow that chapter=episode format, but I'm afraid they will, as we've already seen a bit of with Super. Speaking of that, I've only read one or two chapters of the Super manga - have they kept that conversion rate up for every episode? one episode is adapted from one chapter of manga, with a bunch of filler added in?
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SirDrone posted:Holy hell where does the DBM find these artists for the bonus chapters? I want the Gast special dude back. I think they are mostly friends and acquaintances of the writer.
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Athropos posted:Why is DBS on a shoestring budget if its a sequel from like one of the most popular animes around? Theres no excuse for being cheap. Look at Attack on Titan, the animation is pretty loving amazing and high end and it was produced with absolutely no guarantee that it would ever be successful. Toei are just greedy idiots. Because producing a weekly series is a scheduling nightmare and also Attack on Titan had entire scenes that were characters talking over storyboard art.
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Athropos posted:Why is DBS on a shoestring budget if its a sequel from like one of the most popular animes around? Theres no excuse for being cheap. Look at Attack on Titan, the animation is pretty loving amazing and high end and it was produced with absolutely no guarantee that it would ever be successful. Toei are just greedy idiots. Did, uh, did you actually watch Attack on Titan? There were literally scenes where parts of the environment were purple CGI blocks because they didn't bother to texture them.  Amazing high-end art. Edit: Hell, go look at the AoT anime thread where people complained about how bad it looked and wondered why a popular show was getting such bad animation. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Aug 12, 2015 |
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AoT literally had different scenes for the same episodes on the same day because they were so strapped on time, the hours of delay between region viewings was enough to fit in actual talking instead of zooming and unzooming the city.
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My friend wouldnt stop shittalking great saiyaman the other night and I finally knew the fury in Goku's heart when Krillin died
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Countblanc posted:My friend wouldnt stop shittalking great saiyaman the other night and I finally knew the fury in Goku's heart when Krillin died So you're blonde now? Is your friend a cyborg now?
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Athropos posted:Why is DBS on a shoestring budget if its a sequel from like one of the most popular animes around? Theres no excuse for being cheap. Look at Attack on Titan, the animation is pretty loving amazing and high end and it was produced with absolutely no guarantee that it would ever be successful. Toei are just greedy idiots. Kild posted:Even Attack on Titan was getting worked on right up until airing and even past that where some stations got even better versions. They had stills with voice overs, 3d blue insert color blocks, bad drawings.
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Countblanc posted:My friend wouldnt stop shittalking great saiyaman the other night and I finally knew the fury in Goku's heart when Krillin died I seriously never got the love for Great Saiyaman, but then again I'm part of the unsophisticated masses who loved DB for the action and fights as opposed to the goofy poo poo. Also the DBM special is getting on my nerves. It had potential at first but is just going on and on without any kind of development. The last few pages even remind me a bit of a Bugs Bunny cartoon or something
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