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drat, those Korean corporations must be colluding with hackers!
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Blazing Zero posted:way it was explained to me is that it's basically a keylogger and that who it forwards to is a mystery. maybe its bad enough that anyone can hook into it and gather info, who knows? There's no evidence that it has any sort of keylogger at all. Just a bunch of hearsay and panic from people who haven't even looked at it. Something like that would absolutely get flagged by any good virus protection. What there actually is evidence that it does is: - Runs while the game itself is active (and closes when the game closes). - Must be run with elevated privileges. - Reads your USN Journal (change log of all files on your computer). - Scans potentially your whole harddrive (and local network) and your active running processes against a db of known hacks (it's a very simple blacklist scanner). - Has some sort of heartbeat back to it's server and the game of course. - Has the capability to report some information about your harddrive's files to their server if it wants (supposedly just metadata) What Neople has claimed about it: quote:There are many questions about XIGNCODE 3, a security software for DFO, so we are giving you some answers. In the end you have to make the call if you're okay with it or not. It seems almost entirely benign but I wouldn't hold it against anyone for being paranoid of it. It's definitely the kind of thing that hackers are actively targeting to exploit so even if it's not doing anything itself, there's risk of someone else trying to make it do something nasty.
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Aug 11, 2015 18:56
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Mayor McCheese posted:Can anyone confirm if the combat is just you making GBS threads out a ton of hits at once or if there's a class that does? Was the thing I liked about RO. I assume this is not the case or no one bumped into this.
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Aug 11, 2015 19:40
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Gearman posted:A "blue" version of a mob will give you a giant pile of XP when killed, usually two or three levels worth. When we finally quit because of the grind we were around 68 character level and 11 class level (Rank 3), and blue mobs were giving about 6 or 7 percent of a class level and somewhere between 15 and 30 percent of a character level. This exp is likely split in a party though. Gearman posted:Even before level 30 you'll probably have to start grinding on mobs before going to the next area or tackling the next bunch of quests. It's likely that you missed a bunch of optional quests and bosses, because we never had to grind out enemies until near 45, which is where the first plateau is (the first 5 or so levels after 45 require relatively little exp). Being in a party the whole time might have helped with this. At level 68 I figured achieving Rank 4 would take 10+ hours of grinding so we all gave up. I kind of regret giving up now. Also the game auto suggests party members that fit your criteria to join your party and I got matched up with Silento. He was ok, I guess, but he wasn't a linker or anything.
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Aug 12, 2015 03:43
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Ah, yeah I was solo and I remember leaving the mines at 25 and getting to the next area and everything was 28+. It was a bit rough. I'm not sure how I feel about the XP scrolls. They did help smooth out some of those plateaus, but I'm not sure why we couldn't have just been given more quest XP, especially when mobs jump up so many levels from one quest area to the next.
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Aug 12, 2015 04:08
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We were consistently 6-10 levels below the mobs we were fighting. Where's your rank, bro? v Baby T. Love fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Aug 12, 2015 |
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Aug 12, 2015 05:33
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Aug 12, 2015 06:18
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Tyberius posted:Weird seeing monks in this game with a mace/shield. Or are fist weapons just very rare/attained after becoming a monk? I'm curious if they will ever feel like the monks from RO. If I remember correctly they had a punch combo system, right? There's no fist weapons at this point in time. Arzachel posted:I know it's my fault for getting hyped over a kmmo, but In RO times, sure. But ToS characters are not actually sprites, they are regular old models.
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Aug 12, 2015 17:31
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i would enjoy playing this
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Aug 12, 2015 17:52
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Det_no posted:In RO times, sure. But ToS characters are not actually sprites, they are regular old models. That still applies for models pre-rendered to sprites, or are you saying that the characters are models shaded to look like sprites?
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Aug 12, 2015 19:24
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It will be strange not playing on a private server
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Aug 12, 2015 19:43
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The character models in TOS are 3d models that are textured and lit to look like 2d sprites.
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Aug 12, 2015 19:43
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What am I looking at here, a leaderboard for each monster and the times they've been killed?
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Aug 12, 2015 19:49
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Yep!
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Aug 12, 2015 20:42
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I want to play this so bad, i hope it releases this year i just cant wait 
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Aug 13, 2015 08:27
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Gearman posted:The character models in TOS are 3d models that are textured and lit to look like 2d sprites. Huh? Are you sure about that? From what I remember, they said players are 2d, and enemies are 3d. Granted, I haven't played it yet, but they don't look "fake 2d" in the vidyas.
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Aug 13, 2015 11:46
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This site (unfortunately last updated in January) has a lot of the models from the first Korean beta. http://www.tos-db.com/classmodels
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Aug 13, 2015 15:58
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Truga posted:Huh? Are you sure about that? Very sure. For one, it's the quickest and easiest way of getting multiple angles and animations for the character sprites. Having to draw each piece of armor and body part in eight different angles, and in various animations is a giant headache. It's much quicker and more efficient to just make a 3d model, texture it, and find a rendering and lighting solution that can make those pre-defined angles look 2d. It's a very significant savings in time. If you're interested in seeing a similar process, Subatomic Studios uses it for Fieldrunners and Fieldrunners 2, and they've got a little video of it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDqDWsdGzeE Also, there was a blog post where they mention that character art uses 3d models built from 2d concepts, and then rendered as 2d sprites. You can find that blog post here: http://treeofsaviorgame.com/review/1197/ros-successor-tos-first-cbt-preview/ Edit: There's also that ^^^ which is pretty neat. Shame some of the rigs are busted 
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Aug 13, 2015 16:01
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Gearman posted:Very sure. For one, it's the quickest and easiest way of getting multiple angles and animations for the character sprites. Having to draw each piece of armor and body part in eight different angles, and in various animations is a giant headache. Oh I know. I just thought they went the olde RO way, but with a bigger budget/less pixel art. Guess not.
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Aug 13, 2015 16:06
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Truga posted:Oh I know. I just thought they went the olde RO way, but with a bigger budget/less pixel art. Guess not. Yeah it's just not a very cost effective solution unfortunately. By doing it this way, they can very quickly make a new hat, or cat ears or whatever, and render out all of the angles needed for it very quickly. It's an order of magnitude faster than having an artist attempt to paint that same hat in eight or sixteen or however many player angles that they allow for. To their credit, their texture work is so good that it's fooling quite a few people anyway. I don't think it really matters if they're 3d models or not, as long as the final product looks good.
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Aug 13, 2015 16:13
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GlenQuagmire posted:This site (unfortunately last updated in January) has a lot of the models from the first Korean beta.
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Aug 13, 2015 16:14
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Kylra posted:Gonna play a Chronomancer just for the outrageous pocketwatch. Gotta name your character Flavor Flav tho.
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Aug 13, 2015 16:14
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Next time around (if I'm in beta again) or when the game comes out I definitely wanna level with someone! Are there any bonuses or perks to leveling with another person/party? (boosted EXP, etc)
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Aug 13, 2015 18:25
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Crateria posted:Next time around (if I'm in beta again) or when the game comes out I definitely wanna level with someone! The more people you have the more exp monsters give, but it's of course split between players. Still better than soloing though. Unless you're a tank and can kill your entire pull by yourself, then people wanting to "help out" just end up sucking your tit.
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Aug 13, 2015 19:38
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pertinent posted:The more people you have the more exp monsters give, but it's of course split between players. Still better than soloing though. Unless you're a tank and can kill your entire pull by yourself, then people wanting to "help out" just end up sucking your tit. LF tank with a big tit to suck on for next beta!
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Aug 13, 2015 20:08
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Dackel posted:LF tank with a big tit to suck on for next beta! Please don't practice sexual depravity in this kmmo thread, it's rated PG-13. Thanks! 
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Aug 13, 2015 21:11
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i will accept a key
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Aug 13, 2015 21:45
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I heard Silento has a secret dev connection and will get us all keys. True story Eonwe, true story!
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Aug 13, 2015 22:07
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You better come through on this Silento.
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Aug 13, 2015 22:09
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Thank you based silento
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Aug 13, 2015 22:25
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Thanks for the key Silento!
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Aug 13, 2015 22:28
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>.> <.< >.> pssst....I heard you got keys.... ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
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Aug 13, 2015 22:51
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I am going to collect all of the hats.
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Aug 13, 2015 23:05
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Silento told me he'd sell me a key for $50 and then ran off with my money, he can't be trusted! I bet he spent it on Nexonbux for MapleStory while he waits for ToS to come out
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Aug 13, 2015 23:06
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I'll probably play this for the nostalgia after spending so much time botting RO as a kid.
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Aug 13, 2015 23:22
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Is someone really giving out keys or is this a mean joke... I can't tell 
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Aug 13, 2015 23:31
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Silento I already promised friends those keys ahead of time, you really need to dish them out. 3 would be great tia.
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Aug 13, 2015 23:56
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Checked out some PvP videos on YouTube and am pretty stoked to plan out some PvP specific character builds. Just hope that they increase the exp rates since everyone seems to be reporting it being insanely grindy even at lv30 and that means less motivation for rerolling characters :[
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Aug 14, 2015 00:30
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There are so few invites compared to people interested in the game, I wouldn't be surprised if people were paying hundreds for access. How much was Archeage alpha? $200?
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katkillad2 posted:Is someone really giving out keys or is this a mean joke... I can't tell Its a mean joke. If Silento had keys I would be playing ToS isntead of sadposting.
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