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Lambert does seem like the kind of really insecure dude that would be immensely bothered by that but even Geralt's not that much of a dick.
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welp freeing the tree spirit didn't really help anyone. pretty sure that's the reason the crones killed anna, because they were pissed at losing the kids. on the upside though at least the baron is dead so that's a nice positive! Well not for the people of velen admittedly. Okay definitely gunna make different choices next time.
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Aug 13, 2015 07:37
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Aug 13, 2015 07:40
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The Sharmat posted:Lambert does seem like the kind of really insecure dude that would be immensely bothered by that but even Geralt's not that much of a dick. During one of the main quests there is a section where Lambert can tell you about the time he jumped out of a window to avoid being caught sleeping with a guy's wife, and says it wasn't a matter of being scared but because it was a good friend and he didn't want to (get caught) breaking up his marriage.
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Aug 13, 2015 08:11
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Geralt showin' some sass in a lategame quest. "We're not just some pack of wolves you can fend off with your sword." "Yes you are, and yes I can." gently caress I love this game.
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Aug 13, 2015 08:49
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That Philippa spoiler is implied on her banter you-know-where. Knowing Emhyr, I doubt she'd find that job as easy as among Northern kings.
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Aug 13, 2015 10:24
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The Sharmat posted:It worked out for the kids. Really disagree that this is the better outcome. Don't forget that the tree spirit is some crazy-rear end archdemon, and freeing it will inflict untold horrors upon the world. Even if the game never tells you about them, there's no way thunderhorse isn't up to something very bad elsewhere in the world.
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Aug 13, 2015 10:32
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Snow Job posted:Really disagree that this is the better outcome. Don't forget that the tree spirit is some crazy-rear end archdemon, and freeing it will inflict untold horrors upon the world. Even if the game never tells you about them, there's no way thunderhorse isn't up to something very bad elsewhere in the world. There's a book in the game the describes it as the mother of the crones. She only asked for sacrifices of grain and wheat from the people, but started to go crazy and the crones imprisoned her soul or some poo poo in the forest and she's pissed. Neither decision is good at the time you make it.
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Aug 13, 2015 11:40
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Snow Job posted:Really disagree that this is the better outcome. Don't forget that the tree spirit is some crazy-rear end archdemon, and freeing it will inflict untold horrors upon the world. Even if the game never tells you about them, there's no way thunderhorse isn't up to something very bad elsewhere in the world. So what? Something is very bad elsewhere in the world and there's nothing you can do about it. There's no proof it was an archdemon, but a druid that was bum rushed by the deplorable, wicked crones.
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Aug 13, 2015 11:47
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gently caress you if you let kids get eaten. That's basically the only good thing to come out of that quest. Whatever that spirit was before killed people and the crones are the crones. Any of them being loose in the world sucks.
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Aug 13, 2015 11:53
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AlmightyPants posted:I seem to be burning through my summer backlog pretty quickly. I see that Greenmangaming has Witcher 3 for sale for half off but they're out of stock somehow. Is there anyplace else that I can get this game for PC for cheaper than $60? Fly to Poland and buy it there because the Zloty price is like $30 (I bought this when I was visiting Poland in June)
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Aug 13, 2015 13:02
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The Tree Spirit is the same kind of thing the Crones are probably. But I'm not gonna trust a book that says the heroic Ladies defeated their totally evil mother for the good of everyone and definitely not for power, guys! Nor do I think Geralt would so willingly work for something so obviously horrible and just let a bunch of kids get eaten. It's a calculated risk. And if we're purely talking outcomes...Anna doesn't deserve to suffer like that for the rest of her life. That moment of sanity and happiness before she dies is the closest that arc gets to a happy ending.
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Aug 13, 2015 16:00
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Manatee Cannon posted:Don't think that stuff is ever explicitly mentioned in this game She's a cowardly idiot and a terrible judge of character who is still seeking approval from Phillipa and the rest of the lodge, but she is at heart a nice person, which is why she comes back for Geralt and Yen at Rivia. Her worst crimes are always committed when hiding under Phillipa's skirts.
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Romes128 posted:gently caress you if you let kids get eaten. That's basically the only good thing to come out of that quest. Whatever that spirit was before killed people and the crones are the crones. Any of them being loose in the world sucks. The tree spirit was an obvious liar and I killed it. Also I killed it so that Anna might live and somehow recover from her madness.
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The Crones did nothing wrong, those kids were gonna starve to death anyway. Truth be told, I was a little surprised when you meet The Crones for the second time. Ciri wants revenge on Imlerith and you travel for what seems like days to get to Bald Mountain. When you get there, you're both suddenly like "let's kill The Crones, too". And to boot, Ciri ends up fighting them instead of Imlerith. Like, wasn't the whole reason you went there for her to avenge Vesemir's death herself?. The Crones aren't particularly nice, and I guess they were about to do bad things to Ciri. But it seems they really do protect the land. And they give people magic acorns! All in exchange for a few paltry body parts.
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Aug 13, 2015 17:08
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Romes128 posted:gently caress you if you let kids get eaten. That's basically the only good thing to come out of that quest. Whatever that spirit was before killed people and the crones are the crones. Any of them being loose in the world sucks. There are kids in downwarren you know, how do know which set of kids is better to kill? I think the body count is higher all-around if you let the tree spirit out, which makes it the wrong choice in my eyes.
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Aug 13, 2015 17:11
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I just finished the whole "where the Cat and Wolf Play" quest.  Totally sided with the witcher. Those fucks tried to cheat him and then murder him over a handful of coins when they previously agreed to pay way more than that. I would have murdered them too. He did go overboard, and I probably would have killed him if he killed the little girl. But I can't really bring myself to blame the guy for the kind of rage that might come over someone when they've killed a leshen for a village, asked to be paid, told they only have a handful of coins, lied and lured into a trap where they attempt to murder him so as to not pay him. At least things ended up well for the little girl. The reaction of the aunt at the end was pretty good.
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Captain Scandinaiva posted:All in exchange for a few paltry body parts. And children, some sent for as little a reason as they spilled some milk. Ciri's gonna have to kill every chicken in that room.
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Aug 13, 2015 17:12
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The Crones take care of the people of Velen the way a farmer takes care of their cattle. I bet you guys thought the Morlocks were the heroes of H.G. Wells' Time Machine and are probably communists on top of it.
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Aug 13, 2015 17:13
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The Sharmat posted:The Crones take care of the people of Velen the way a farmer takes care of their cattle. Yeah right? I mean they're horrible monsters who eat children. But isn't society the real villain? No. It's the crones.
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Captain Scandinaiva posted:The Crones did nothing wrong, those kids were gonna starve to death anyway. Truth be told, I was a little surprised when you meet The Crones for the second time. Ciri wants revenge on Imlerith and you travel for what seems like days to get to Bald Mountain. When you get there, you're both suddenly like "let's kill The Crones, too". And to boot, Ciri ends up fighting them instead of Imlerith. Like, wasn't the whole reason you went there for her to avenge Vesemir's death herself?. The Crones aren't particularly nice, and I guess they were about to do bad things to Ciri. But it seems they really do protect the land. And they give people magic acorns! All in exchange for a few paltry body parts. If you walk around Velen you will hear children say things like "My mommy says if I'm good they'll send me on the trail of treats" You'll also overhear conversations like 'I sent my kid into the woods last night to pick some mushrooms, doesn't matter if they die, more food for the others' I have basically zero compassion for the adults in Velen. They use kids as kind of sick currency.
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You're damned if you do and damned if you don't with the Crones. I went with them because they were a known rather than an unknown consequence and enough information around the land gave adequate reason to believe that they would honour their deal. The alternative option was filled with too much uncertainty. Basically that quest line was typical Witcher - no good or evil, just consequences.
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420 Gank Mid posted:She's a cowardly idiot and a terrible judge of character who is still seeking approval from Phillipa and the rest of the lodge, but she is at heart a nice person, which is why she comes back for Geralt and Yen at Rivia. Her worst crimes are always committed when hiding under Phillipa's skirts. I do agree that she isn't doing anything out of spite and she wants to work towards the greater good, but she is willing to leave her friends out in the cold to do that. She usually has good intentions but I don't think she's actually a good person when it comes down to it. Keep in mind that her going to Rivia with them has to do with the Lodge forcing Ciri to be some puppet breeding stock for whatever noble they feel fit to saddle her with. Triss just voted to give them some time together as a family at the end and it backfired. She basically says she's going to try and convince Geralt to not have a fit over the Lodge's decision.
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Aug 13, 2015 17:42
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Triss has "good intentions" but when your judgement is so poo poo that what you think is good is almost universally really bad that doesn't do you much credit. I mean almost everyone has good intentions if you go back far enough.
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if only she did something to prove how much she cares about her friends, like get all of her fingernails ripped out
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If only she wasn't party to kidnapping Yennefer and blackmailing her into joining the Lodge by holding Ciri's well being over her head If only she hadn't tried to force Ciri into being some lord's illegitimate lover as a part of some awful breeding program If only she didn't basically drug Geralt and make him sleep with her If only she never lied to you when you had amnesia to make you sleep with her If only
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Ice Fist posted:I just finished the whole "where the Cat and Wolf Play" quest. Did you visist his stash afterwards? I thought the choice was pretty clear-cut at first. But inside there are a number of plaques, some empty, some with monster trophies on them. Geralt always keeps his trophies, but when you walk up to these he comments something along the lines of "Hmm, wonder why he has all these trophies? Maybe he got cheated before?" Made me think maybe there was more to the story than what he told, since we only get to hear his side of it. Also, he gives Geralt directions and some bandits just happen to stumble upon the place at the same time? But maybe I'm reading too much into it and he just likes collecting that stuff, like (my) Geralt.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:if only she did something to prove how much she cares about her friends, like get all of her fingernails ripped out No one's saying she doesn't care. We're just saying her judgement is awful and she's really bad at making decisions unless Geralt or Yennefer is around to chaperone her.
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Captain Scandinaiva posted:Did you visist his stash afterwards? I thought the choice was pretty clear-cut at first. But inside there are a number of plaques, some empty, some with monster trophies on them. Geralt always keeps his trophies, but when you walk up to these he comments something along the lines of "Hmm, wonder why he has all these trophies? Maybe he got cheated before?" Made me think maybe there was more to the story than what he told, since we only get to hear his side of it. Also, he gives Geralt directions and some bandits just happen to stumble upon the place at the same time? But maybe I'm reading too much into it and he just likes collecting that stuff, like (my) Geralt. The Cat witcher is a goddamn lunatic who butchers people when they shortchange him (that one village is not an isolated case) and responds with, at best, a pissy mea culpa if anyone's still got enough blood in them to call him out afterwards. I punted his head down the graveyard path and it was the single most satisfying kill I had all game.
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i'm just going to put this out there, that yennefer is the best female in the witcher since triss in the first one. triss has just unraveled throughout the entire series, and i'm pretty bitter about it. 'till they delivered yennefer.
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The Sharmat posted:No one's saying she doesn't care. We're just saying her judgement is awful and she's really bad at making decisions unless Geralt or Yennefer is around to chaperone her. look at manatee canyon's post lol
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Fractale posted:i'm just going to put this out there, that yennefer is the best female in the witcher since triss in the first one. triss has just unraveled throughout the entire series, and i'm pretty bitter about it. Triss in TW1 is Yennefer lite, down to outright having multiple lines of dialogue stolen directly from Yennefer in the books. TW2 Triss is the real Triss. WoodrowSkillson posted:look at manatee canyon's post lol Those are all things that happened. What of it?
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WoodrowSkillson posted:look at manatee canyon's post lol I'm not saying she's evil; I'm saying that one thing she does can't counteract all the lovely things she has done over time. Everything I said actually happened in this series and they were all really bad things for her to do. edit: y'know, manatee canyon wouldn't be a bad name now that I think about it Manatee Cannon fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Aug 13, 2015 |
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Oxxidation posted:The Cat witcher is a goddamn lunatic who butchers people when they shortchange him (that one village is not an isolated case) and responds with, at best, a pissy mea culpa if anyone's still got enough blood in them to call him out afterwards. I punted his head down the graveyard path and it was the single most satisfying kill I had all game. Where is the proof for this? The guy mentions that he's used to getting shortchanged, but definitely not used to getting murdered to avoid payment.
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Oxxidation posted:The Cat witcher is a goddamn lunatic who butchers people when they shortchange him (that one village is not an isolated case) and responds with, at best, a pissy mea culpa if anyone's still got enough blood in them to call him out afterwards. I punted his head down the graveyard path and it was the single most satisfying kill I had all game. Yeah and the racist rear end in a top hat peasants who try to murder a professional instead of paying him the agreed upon sum are so noble and great. Everyone in the witcher world is a huge jerk-off but at least the Cat Witcher is fair enough to actually uphold his side of a bargain. Obviously though Triss is not a good person. 420 Gank Mid fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Aug 13, 2015 |
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Oxxidation posted:The Cat witcher is a goddamn lunatic who butchers people when they shortchange him (that one village is not an isolated case) and responds with, at best, a pissy mea culpa if anyone's still got enough blood in them to call him out afterwards. I punted his head down the graveyard path and it was the single most satisfying kill I had all game. Aha. You know for certain, though?
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420 Gank Mid posted:Everyone in the witcher world is a huge jerk-off Saskia isn't. Or wasn't. Thanks, Phil.
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Ice Fist posted:Where is the proof for this? The guy mentions that he's used to getting shortchanged, but definitely not used to getting murdered to avoid payment. Besides the empty trophy stands, if you push the conversation far enough to where Geralt's openly condemning him, he asked the Cat witcher if he's done this village-killing shindig before. The Cat witcher just grins and says nothing. I kill psychopathic bandits ten times a day for looking at me funny in that game, I'm not going to spare one more just because he's got the same eyeballs as my PC. e: and yes, it's understandable to kill some dudes who tried to surprise-pitchfork you. Less so if they executed that gambit because you threatened to stab them for dereliction of payment. Even less so if you stride out into the village proper afterward and start stabbing innocent men and women in the back. Stabbing doesn't solve everything, guy! Ever heard what happens to people who live by the sword? Oxxidation fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Aug 13, 2015 |
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The Sharmat posted:Saskia isn't. Radovid is definitely the Witcher-verse Hitler But Phillipa is like if there was some incredibly evil Jewish supervillain that totally justified Hitler.
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