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Full Battle Rattle posted:If you are brown and/or a woman then I understand how you don't love the guy. If you are brown and/or a woman, then I don't understand why you're considering voting for the Republicans at all. Trump has some really lovely ideas, but the Republicans are still ranting about defunding women's health, and they found the only black man in America who doesn't think race is important. Trump may be the most open about his hateful opinions, but I don't think he's even close to actually holding the worst opinions.
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Full Battle Rattle posted:On another note - someone mentioned a segment (maybe in the debate?) where they talked about how Carly Fiorina did well at the kiddie table debate, and all the other hosts laughed. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Are you thinking of the pre-debate intro that they aired at 8:50? Megyn Kelly laughingly said that Carly "opened a can", and all three of the hosts laughed.
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mlmp08 posted:I didn't really care for Bernie's response. Not stern, but also not inviting. Just backed away while a different old white guy told the two women to go to the back of the queue behind Bernie, then back pedaled and let them speak. At which point they yelled into the mic that no one would let them speak? Did they ever actually speak, the YouTube video I watched cuts soon after old dude number 2 gives up the mic. You're right he should have committed seppuku live on stage after setting the other man on fire. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Supraluminal posted:Maybe you should consult your lexicon of Yankee codewords, if not in all situations, at least when posting in a Yankee political thread about racially-charged events. This sounds really imperialist Which is fine because we are going to add Canada
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StealthArcher posted:You're right he should have committed seppuku live on stage after setting the other man on fire. I don't know what he should have done, it's a crummy spot to be in and he didn't act totally dumb. Just looked generally weak. Meh?
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Aug 13, 2015 15:07
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Unless Gilmore can make some waves, he isn't going to be part of the CNN debates. Down to 16. http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/11/politics/cnn-debate-nancy-reagan-invitations/
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Aug 13, 2015 15:22
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Oh won'tcha come with me / And take my hand? / Oh won'tcha come with me / And walk this land? [10 minute keyboard solo]
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Aug 13, 2015 15:27
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Three Olives posted:Whoops, turns out Dr. Carson himself did fetal tissue research on aborted fetuses and published a paper on it: The only moral dead baby part research is my dead baby part research. good thing a fetus isn't a baby!
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Aug 13, 2015 15:30
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PT6A posted:If you are brown and/or a woman, then I don't understand why you're considering voting for the Republicans at all. Trump has some really lovely ideas, but the Republicans are still ranting about defunding women's health, and they found the only black man in America who doesn't think race is important. If you're a christian brown or christian woman you will vote republican. It's your duty to god to do so.
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Aug 13, 2015 15:31
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So... I guess BLM's next target is Trump. Politically this could actually end well for both camps.
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Montasque posted:So... I guess BLM's next target is Trump. All Trump has to do is call in a favor from Bobby Lashley to be his personal security. He loves ya, Bobby!
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Aug 13, 2015 15:39
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Trump on August 16th, 2015: "We must support people of color."
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Naet posted:Trump on August 16th, 2015: "Hey, if I was black I'd be pissed too. I mean I'd still be rich, but yeah I'd be angry. Plenty of angry rich black guys out there, just look at popular music. So it's not about money, it's not about the economy, it's about blacks getting angry." *favorability with black america somehow rises*
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Aug 13, 2015 15:52
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Just to re-iteratequote:Basically nobody who follows politics in any depth thinks either Donald Trump or Bernie Sanders could be elected our next president. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/13/the-one-big-reason-neither-donald-trump-nor-bernie-sanders-can-keep-this-up/
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Counterpoint: Bernie will win.
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Aug 13, 2015 15:54
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Joementum posted:Oh won'tcha come with me / And take my hand? / Oh won'tcha come with me / And walk this land? [10 minute keyboard solo] ~just thinkin' bout small government things~
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Aug 13, 2015 15:56
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Booooooo shut up media it's not even really 2016 yet. Stop trying to get America to get its homework done, its favorite show is on.
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The most electable candidate is the one currently in crisis mode over a legal investigation
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Aug 13, 2015 15:59
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MrBims posted:The most electable candidate is the one currently in crisis mode over a legal investigation He's not wrong
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Aug 13, 2015 16:03
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Trump polls the highest among those who rate electability as their main issue.
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Joementum posted:Oh won'tcha come with me / And take my hand? / Oh won'tcha come with me / And walk this land? [10 minute keyboard solo] Rand Paul shoegaze album coming along nicely. Next thing you know, his campaign platforms will suddenly change to "whatever I guess, it doesn't even really matter what I think anyways..."
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Miltank posted:Counterpoint: Bernie will win. greatn posted:Trump polls the highest among those who rate electability as their main issue. Seriously, you can tell how in-the-bag for Hillary or Jeb the media is by their insistence that people are supporting candidates regardless of electability. The base is going to come out and vote for the candidate with their favorite letter, D or R, next to their name because that's what they'd do anyway. Sanders isn't unelectable because it's not like D voters are going to refuse to vote with all the FUD about a Republican (let alone Trump) winning.
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greatn posted:Trump polls the highest among those who rate electability as their main issue. And if that poll was next year, it would mean something.
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Shageletic posted:And if that poll was next year, it would mean something. Republicans are going to drop out this year, not next year. Trump is not going to be one of those Republicans dropping out.
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MrBims posted:The most electable candidate is the one currently in crisis mode over a legal investigation
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Aug 13, 2015 16:24
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Standing, patiently waiting for Mike Huckabee to speak at the Iowa State Fair. I'll let you know if he advocates for death to all non Protestants.
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Shageletic posted:Just to re-iterate If both parties nominated the unelectable one, then what? I want Trump vs Sanders so badly. I don't think any voter in the country wants Bush vs Clinton. How is Walker not also considered an unelectable? I suspect once his record was well known nationwide, he'd go over worse than Romney, and I really doubt the fickle American public would vote for someone who looks like such a complete doofus. The thought of him getting anywhere near the Whitehouse, possibly with Republican control of Congress, makes me break out in cold sweats. Fiorina as his VP would be the bow on top. Jeb is another Bush who wants to jump back into Iraq, and also Syria, and everywhere apparently. How is he a serious candidate? I absolutely hate Trump. I've hated him for years. His behavior in the public sphere has always been despicable. Additionally, I watched several seasons of The Apprentice, and his leadership style comes across like Wild Card Charlie from It's Always Sunny; stupid and arbitrary. That I dislike the idea of any of the other "serious" Republican candidates even more than him is stunning even to me. The only other one that seems like I could even theoretically not hate them worse is Kasich, and the polling suggests he has no chance to even make it into next year. XK fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Aug 13, 2015 |
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Shageletic posted:Just to re-iterate I think one big thing here that it might be easy to miss is this: People are probably going to base electability on perceived opponents. They want the "best" candidate they think is also going to win. If Trump stays in the lead and Bernie pulls into the lead, we end up in a situation where both parties think they can win the election easily while voting for their preferred candidate. Trump voters know Trump is electable because his opponent is going to be a socialist. Sanders voters know Sanders is electable because his opponent is going to be Trump. The fact that they are both doing well is actually the biggest reason for them to continue doing well. If one falls and drops out, I think it makes things a lot harder for the other one for sure.
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Yoshifan823 posted:Standing, patiently waiting for Mike Huckabee to speak at the Iowa State Fair. I'll let you know if he advocates for death to all non Protestants. I thought ultra-Orthodox Jews were cool now that they're stabbing gay people?
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Looks like the Carson using Fetal issue thing is picking up steam in the right-wing circles. Freep is having a minor meltdown over it. Half of them are done with Carson, the other half can't believe it and think it's a GOPe/MSM sabotage effort.
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MrBims posted:Republicans are going to drop out this year, not next year. Trump is not going to be one of those Republicans dropping out. The fringe candidates will, but not the ones with actual Super-Pac/billionaire assets support. The list of Repub debates: quote:1. Fox News, August 2015, Ohio I don't see this getting serious (actual, viable, candidates being forced to quit their campaigns), until next Febuary at the earliest.
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XK posted:If both parties nominated the unelectable one, then what? Mike Bloomberg would either run third party or fund a more viable centrist candidacy, no one would win a majority of EVs, and the election would go to the House of Representatives where it would be anything goes. Under Boehner's guidance they'd probably install Jeb.
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Gregoriev posted:Seriously, you can tell how in-the-bag for Hillary or Jeb the media is by their insistence that people are supporting candidates regardless of electability. The base is going to come out and vote for the candidate with their favorite letter, D or R, next to their name because that's what they'd do anyway. Sanders isn't unelectable because it's not like D voters are going to refuse to vote with all the FUD about a Republican (let alone Trump) winning. Wait are we reading/watching/following the same media? With the exception of some columnists buried in the politics section which nobody bothers to read the media is not backing anyone but those that spike their ratings up or give them page views. On the democratic side this happens to be coverage of the large crowds Sanders is getting and any improvement in polling because they get spread far and wide by his supporters. It is viral marketing easy mode. Any negative Hillary story continues to be catnip for page views with the right wing crowd and the Sanders supporters so those news stories keep headlining as well. Fox News and a bunch of other right wing outlets are pretty clearly going full on Donald because he draws in viewers and continues to pump out new things to talk about like nobody else on the GOP side.
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Shageletic posted:Just to re-iterate You never know until you try 
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:Hillary's favorable ratings are the worst theyve ever been Normally data is beautiful but that graph looks like someone trying to pass a kidney stone
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Aug 13, 2015 16:49
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:Normally data is beautiful but that graph looks like someone trying to pass a kidney stone its from the nytimes which usually have nice graphs but yeah that looks terrible
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