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Stelas
Sep 6, 2010

Keyflower Game 2 is up.

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lordsummerisle
Aug 4, 2013
In the mood for some more mid-euro fun. Should be two players, since most people in the group shout "Bleh! Point salad!", unless it is Last Will or some other CGE game.

We like Last Will, Dungeon Petz (though she finds it a bit too stressfull), Castles of Burgundy and Rococo.

I was considering picking up Keyflower since it seems so popular here, but also one more game. Both Orleans and Voyages of Marco Polo seem really exciting to me. How do these compare?

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

If I'm getting new tablet, I want an iPad, right? In terms of available board games obviously, because anything else is secondary.

snuff
Jul 16, 2003

BonHair posted:

If I'm getting new tablet, I want an iPad, right? In terms of available board games obviously, because anything else is secondary.

In terms of everything you want an iPad.

Big McHuge
Feb 5, 2014

You wait for the war to happen like vultures.
If you want to help, prevent the war.
Don't save the remnants.

Save them all.

Shadow225 posted:

Yo, how do you people feel about Deck Building: The Deck Building Game or Fairy Tale?

Fairy Tale is a cute and relatively quick drafting game. I don't recall anything really negative about it and it was a good mid-range filler. My groups tend not to play that many filler games though, or there is usually at least 5 of us so I haven't played it in a while.

Speaking of filler though, I did have the lovely opportunity to play some Exploding Kittens last night. Hooo boy, is that a game with a box that meows when you open it.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

lordsummerisle posted:

I was considering picking up Keyflower since it seems so popular here, but also one more game. Both Orleans and Voyages of Marco Polo seem really exciting to me. How do these compare?

I really like Orleans and am interested in Voyages, but I don't know what you're comparing them to.

lordsummerisle
Aug 4, 2013

Jedit posted:

I really like Orleans and am interested in Voyages, but I don't know what you're comparing them to.

To each other as an alternative to Burgundy.

Andarel
Aug 4, 2015

Shadow225 posted:

Yo, how do you people feel about Deck Building: The Deck Building Game or Fairy Tale?

Havne't played DB:DBG but Fairy Tale is both one of the most influential and one of the best filler games out there. It's the archetypical drafting game - pass around a hand of cards, see what you want to pick, grab a card, play some of the stuff you got and chuck the rest. Back when it came out in '04 it was a pretty big hit and it's sort of fallen off the radar because of stuff like 7 Wonders but imo it's still head and shoulders above any other drafting game even if the theme's not really there.

The reason Fairy Tale's so great is because it cuts straight to what makes drafting games so interesting - card valuation and hatedrafting versus helping your position. You get 5 cards a round and only play 3, so you have 2 slots for "free" hatedrafting without weak cards cluttering your play. On the other hand, cards are rarely "weak" - the cards are all identical in triplicate (three suits that are just colorshifted) plus an "attack/utility" suit that can do nasty things to other players. The reason it's so rough is because card valuation is really variable - cards can be worth anywhere between 1 point (or even negative!) and crazy amounts of points (I've seen 15 points on a card before), but the latter are telegraphed. And the deck's not that big, so it's very possible that you can see the vast majority of cards in any given game. When cards are worth huge points it's super obvious though, which makes them great targets for hatedrafting - or getting flip effects to destroy them. But players can play sacrificial cards to defend against usually-low-VP flip effects, and those effect the player who played 'em too. Much more cutthroat than your average drafting game, and with actual honest to god player interaction.

And that's just the basic game. Advanced game makes things even crazier.

So yeah. Buy Fairy Tale. Just make sure you get the A New Story (2013 I think?) edition because the other two editions look terrible and are hard to read.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

lordsummerisle posted:

To each other as an alternative to Burgundy.

Eating broken glass is an acceptable alternative to Castles of Burgundy.

Against each other: Orleans is sort of a deck builder version of worker placement in that you know what workers you have but not which ones you'll get to use each turn. Resources and culling are both sources of points rather than required materials. Voyages is closer to Burgundy except players directly compete to develop rather than build to separate goals. As I say, I haven't played Voyages, but I think I would prefer Orleans.

lordsummerisle
Aug 4, 2013

Jedit posted:

Eating broken glass is an acceptable alternative to Castles of Burgundy.

Hey! Leave Burgundy and it's beige loveliness alone!

Andarel
Aug 4, 2015

Jedit posted:

Eating broken glass is an acceptable alternative to Castles of Burgundy.

You know, the fact that I had to spend a few moments debating whether this was true or not is a pretty bad sign.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




I still like CoB. I think I treat it as a filler now, though, something to play in 30 minutes with my wife while we have brief moments during baby naps and such.

Electric Hobo
Oct 22, 2008

What a view!

Grimey Drawer
I just got Mage Knight: Shades of Tezla! I haven't had a chance to see how bad my copy is, but the base fell off the figure as soon as I took it out of the insert. Great first impression.

Andarel
Aug 4, 2015

Electric Hobo posted:

I just got Mage Knight: Shades of Tezla! I haven't had a chance to see how bad my copy is, but the base fell off the figure as soon as I took it out of the insert. Great first impression.

Goddamit Wizkids.

SlyFrog
May 16, 2007

What? One name? Who are you, Seal?
I also have Shades of Tezla. I have not opened it, however, as I am instead getting back into things by first playing a Lost Legion game or two (per the excellent advice of my internet friends here).

I decided to do Volkare's Return (Epic) - everything is set up, I've watched a few RickyRoyal videos as suggested, and now it's just waiting for me to start. Well, waiting for me to make one more good pass through the rulebooks first.

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate

Electric Hobo posted:

I just got Mage Knight: Shades of Tezla! I haven't had a chance to see how bad my copy is, but the base fell off the figure as soon as I took it out of the insert. Great first impression.

My base is also very loose. The enemies are indeed smaller but at least my rulebook isn't crumpled to death(still has a misprint though in the starting at a higher level section).

Bubble-T
Dec 26, 2004

You know, I've got a funny feeling I've seen this all before.

silvergoose posted:

I still like CoB. I think I treat it as a filler now, though, something to play in 30 minutes with my wife while we have brief moments during baby naps and such.

CoB is weird. I think it's a much better intro to medium-weight euros than say Lords of Waterdeep. I'd recommend it as such and I'd be happy playing it, board balance issues aside it's quite solid.

Once people are comfortable with anything heavier though I don't see much of a reason to pull it out because it's relatively long and fiddly and bland for what it is. It's a bit like 7 Wonders, I'm glad to have it in my collection and I rarely turn it down but I also rarely suggest it outside of the specific circumstances it's good for.

deadly_pudding
May 13, 2009

who the fuck is scraeming
"LOG OFF" at my house.
show yourself, coward.
i will never log off

Bubble-T posted:

CoB is weird. I think it's a much better intro to medium-weight euros than say Lords of Waterdeep. I'd recommend it as such and I'd be happy playing it, board balance issues aside it's quite solid.

Once people are comfortable with anything heavier though I don't see much of a reason to pull it out because it's relatively long and fiddly and bland for what it is. It's a bit like 7 Wonders, I'm glad to have it in my collection and I rarely turn it down but I also rarely suggest it outside of the specific circumstances it's good for.

^^^This is how I feel about 7 Wonders. We only play it like once or twice every couple months, but I really enjoy it when we do.

Our light filler game lately is still King of New York. It seats a lot of people, turns are pretty fast, and we get to goof off while we try to murder each other.
Then we pull out Power Grid for the long haul and make every economic slight super personal :getin:

Dr. Video Games 0081
Jan 19, 2005
Any suggestions how long I might expect to wait for a 2nd printing of a game to charge and then ship in GMT's P500 program? I pre-ordered A Distant Plain and it's at 499 right now and I'm pumped to get to play it, though I imagine it'll be a couple months still at this point.

lordsummerisle
Aug 4, 2013

Bubble-T posted:

CoB is weird. I think it's a much better intro to medium-weight euros than say Lords of Waterdeep. I'd recommend it as such and I'd be happy playing it, board balance issues aside it's quite solid.

Once people are comfortable with anything heavier though I don't see much of a reason to pull it out because it's relatively long and fiddly and bland for what it is. It's a bit like 7 Wonders, I'm glad to have it in my collection and I rarely turn it down but I also rarely suggest it outside of the specific circumstances it's good for.

I think it really works as a couples game for week nights. It isn't as long as the deeper euros we have, and the dice mechanic softens my SO's tendency to go full AP.

ACValiant
Sep 7, 2005

Huh...? Oh, this? Nah, don't worry. Just in the middle of some messy business.
So Cyclades.

The two expansions are Hades and Titans.

Hades has a few smaller components and a big one. The small components are the addition of a bidding for setup (pretty cool), some monsters (eh), heroes (cool) and priestesses that pay for heroes, minor gods that attach to the last god that’s not Apollo (pretty cool), some magic items (eh), and Hades. Hades is the big draw obviously. Every turn you roll the battle dice and add it to the Hades track. When it hits a certain point he replaces the last god on the board.

So there are a lot of varied opinions on Hades because he changes the base game in a very interesting way. In Cyclades you have to bid for Aries to be able to move your armies and Poseidon to move your navies, but with Hades he provides a way to move both as long as you purchase an undead unit to move with the army/navy. Personally I’m a fan because he throws a wrench into everyone’s plans and can end a game with a clear winner sooner. Some people hate this because you might have a plan where, “OK, if I can grab Poseidon this turn I can set up a bridge and then next turn I can buy Aries and take the island and then a turn after I can get Athena and place a metropolis and win” and this plan can be royally screwed when Hades shows up and someone bull-rushes into some place you didn’t expect. I think he’s hilarious but as I said before, opinions vary.

Titans is a really cool expansion because it comes with a brand new board. Instead of islands there are continents and these continents are split into different regions that act the same way as islands except of course, now you don’t need Poseidon to setup a chain. This would obviously make Aries super powerful (and he is) but you don’t need Aries as much anymore. Why? Because you have Titans.

Titans allow you to move an army they’re attached to by paying 1 gold for the first move, 2 gold for the second and so on. They are obviously very very valuable and paint a huge target on an army but they are worth it. That kind of mobility is nuts.

You can buy one titan from the Kronus god tile (unless the Kronus tile is at the very top then you can buy two). Instead of a special building, you are allowed to buy any building that’s above the Kronus tile on the board. I think this is needed to speed up the game because now you can play with six players.

That’s another addition that Titans brings, the ability to play with six. It’s not a free for all though – to play with six people you have to play in teams of two. These teams instead of needing two metropolises each just need three altogether. This variant is STUPID amounts of fun. I was not expecting this but it might be my new favorite way to play.

The Titan expansion also adds new metropolises that have special powers (like they add two to defense or give an additional gold). Honestly? I hate these. I think they were supposed to make whoever got the first metropolis more of a target but that hasn’t really played out in my games.

I can’t remember what the other additions are but I’m sure I missed some stuff. Obviously since I typed all of this stuff I dig this game.

Dr. Lunchables
Dec 27, 2012

IRL DEBUFFED KOBOLD



Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:

Any suggestions how long I might expect to wait for a 2nd printing of a game to charge and then ship in GMT's P500 program? I pre-ordered A Distant Plain and it's at 499 right now and I'm pumped to get to play it, though I imagine it'll be a couple months still at this point.

It's slated for reprint in the first quarter of 2016. I doubt p500 numbers will bump it up any further, but rather secure its spot from being pushed back any further.

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums

SlyFrog posted:

Hey gang, help me make an intelligent decision regarding Mage Knight.

I was in the same boat as you. I went straight to Volkare fine. What was a total PITA frankly was only 80% remembering how to play MK. It was a total bastard of a game to shake the cobwebs off for because hunting for the missing bits here and there was super troublesome.

Bubble-T
Dec 26, 2004

You know, I've got a funny feeling I've seen this all before.
Games Precipice did a fun little bracket of the last 20 years in terms of best game releases: http://www.gamesprecipice.com/mailbag-2015/

I'd probably pick 2008 personally but I haven't played many of the older games. I only really care for Keyflower and Archipelago from 2012.

Rad Valtar
May 31, 2011

Someday coach Im going to throw for 6 TDs in the Super Bowl.

Sit your ass down Steve.
Which Sentinels of the Multiverse expansions are worth picking up?

Madmarker
Jan 7, 2007

Rad Valtar posted:

Which Sentinels of the Multiverse expansions are worth picking up?

I'm a big fan of the Garbage Bin and Setting it on Fire Expansions personally. Most fun I ever had out of the game.
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But for a serious answer my friends who like Sentinels speak highly of Vengeance and Wrath of the Cosmos.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
Sentinels looks like a game I would like, but I can't get past the jr high computer class artwork.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

Bottom Liner posted:

Sentinels looks like a game I would like, but I can't get past the jr high computer class artwork.

Be happy that the art keeps you away, as the game isn't very good.

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

Indolent Bastard posted:

Be happy that the art keeps you away, as the game isn't very good.

The app is pretty fun, but that's because one player controls everything.

Zark the Damned
Mar 9, 2013

Looselybased posted:

I can’t remember what the other additions are but I’m sure I missed some stuff. Obviously since I typed all of this stuff I dig this game.

There's the Artefacts too. They get shuffled into the monster deck at the start and when they crop up you can buy them (no Temple discount as they aren't monsters iirc). Each Artefact has a miniature you place with one of your armies. It gives you extra money and a buff to that army (e.g. the Helm of Invisibility allows you to use other people's boats when moving). The downside is if another player kills all your dudes in that region they get to claim the Artefact for themselves!

This also adds another victory condition - if at the end of a turn you have all 5 Artefacts under your control (not sure if this can be split across a team) they form Exodia you win the game!

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There is also a third expansion for Cyclades, but it's a bit odd since it's also an expansion for Kemet. It adds rules for both games for using the monsters from the other game. Not tried it yet but it sounds neat!

Plus I think there are some promo monsters and heroes on the BGG store.

Ohthehugemanatee
Oct 18, 2005

Rad Valtar posted:

Which Sentinels of the Multiverse expansions are worth picking up?

There aren't any bad expansions really, and your best bet is to pick whichever one looks like the heroes and villains are cool. I particularly liked Infernal Relics and Shattered Timelines. Rook City had what I felt were kinda poorly thought out heroes (Mr Fixer in particular can get absolutely screwed by his deck) but the villains and environments were great.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
Here's 146 pictures of board game porn I took at Gencon. Lot's of pretty games, but I really only found about 10 games that excited me (most being old releases I just got around to trying). My favorite new game was Pocket Imperium, followed closely by Dark Moon (which seems brutally hard so far).

http://imgur.com/a/zOpi6

Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Aug 13, 2015

medchem
Oct 11, 2012

I played Mottainai. I do like Glory to Rome, but Mottainai was a bit disappointing. While it took a little while trying to understand the rules, it made more sense once I started playing. Unfortunately, the game was over after just 2 rounds! We did play with 5 players, and probably 3 maximum is the most you'd want to play, but it will be a tough buy for me. There's also a lot of downtime between turns because a player may end up doing many actions while you just sit there and do nothing. In Glory to Rome, at least, you can always choose to copy someone's action on their turn, so it's a bit more interactive.

Rad Valtar
May 31, 2011

Someday coach Im going to throw for 6 TDs in the Super Bowl.

Sit your ass down Steve.

Ohthehugemanatee posted:

There aren't any bad expansions really, and your best bet is to pick whichever one looks like the heroes and villains are cool. I particularly liked Infernal Relics and Shattered Timelines. Rook City had what I felt were kinda poorly thought out heroes (Mr Fixer in particular can get absolutely screwed by his deck) but the villains and environments were great.

Thanks, it's nice to get one not condescending rear end in a top hat answer.

The Supreme Court
Feb 25, 2010

Pirate World: Nearly done!

Zark the Damned posted:

There is also a third expansion for Cyclades, but it's a bit odd since it's also an expansion for Kemet. It adds rules for both games for using the monsters from the other game. Not tried it yet but it sounds neat!

Plus I think there are some promo monsters and heroes on the BGG store.

I've only looked at the kemet side of the crossover kit, but it didn't look that great.
E: looking again, I'm not sure why I was so disappointed. I'd like to try them in a game.

Bottom Liner posted:

Here's 146 pictures of board game porn I took at Gencon. Lot's of pretty games, but I really only found about 10 games that excited me (most being old releases I just got around to trying). My favorite new game was Pocket Imperium, followed closely by Dark Moon (which seems brutally hard so far).

http://imgur.com/a/zOpi6
This is a beautiful collection of photos.

The Supreme Court fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Aug 13, 2015

Huxley
Oct 10, 2012



Grimey Drawer

Bottom Liner posted:

Here's 146 pictures of board game porn I took at Gencon. Lot's of pretty games, but I really only found about 10 games that excited me (most being old releases I just got around to trying). My favorite new game was Pocket Imperium, followed closely by Dark Moon (which seems brutally hard so far).

http://imgur.com/a/zOpi6

What is this game? It's beautiful.

Gimnbo
Feb 13, 2012

e m b r a c e
t r a n q u i l i t y



Huxley posted:

What is this game? It's beautiful.

Looks like Royals. I just found out about it and I want to try to super badly now.

The Supreme Court
Feb 25, 2010

Pirate World: Nearly done!

Gimnbo posted:

Looks like Royals. I just found out about it and I want to try to super badly now.

It is (at least according to the list on reddit). Looks stunning.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Dirk the Average posted:

The app is pretty fun, but that's because one player controls everything.

I can't see how that is so, when everything you do is not fun. The game of Sentinels I played I spent a couple of turns setting up, then I did exactly the same thing on every single turn for the rest of the game.

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Campbell
Jun 7, 2000

Bottom Liner posted:

Here's 146 pictures of board game porn I took at Gencon. Lot's of pretty games, but I really only found about 10 games that excited me (most being old releases I just got around to trying). My favorite new game was Pocket Imperium, followed closely by Dark Moon (which seems brutally hard so far).

http://imgur.com/a/zOpi6

These are phenomenal pictures, thanks for sharing!

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