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Eredin's a nice guy. Let him grab his weapon before he killed him.
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Ice Fist posted:The first DLC on anyone's wishlist should be a "Free the Free City of Novigrad" where the remaining Big 4 rise up and eliminate the Eternal Fire and the Witch Hunters with Geralt's enthusiastic help Unfortunately that would never happen in this setting. If North becomes a vassal state of Nilfgaard maybe they can dampen the worst parts of the Witch Hunters (since they'll be much less powerful without Radovid) but there's still the major problem of all the humans being horrible racists. I do hope there's a path that ends with Philippa's demise in the DLC. I don't know how they'd write that though - seems like Phil would have to instigate it. Geralt and/or Yen wouldn't try to kill her out of nowhere, despite all she's done, and Triss wouldn't raise a hand against her.
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Spite posted:Unfortunately that would never happen in this setting. If North becomes a vassal state of Nilfgaard maybe they can dampen the worst parts of the Witch Hunters (since they'll be much less powerful without Radovid) but there's still the major problem of all the humans being horrible racists. Maybe Radovid would finally get to finish her. In some stories, he's still alive.
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Spite posted:the major problem of all the humans being horrible racists. That's a pretty racist sentiment. Spite posted:I do hope there's a path that ends with Philippa's demise in the DLC. I don't know how they'd write that though - seems like Phil would have to instigate it. Geralt and/or Yen wouldn't try to kill her out of nowhere, despite all she's done No I think they would. Or well, at least Yennefer would. Geralt's a softy. She's a persistent threat to Ciri and a horrible person that has done terrible things to both of them. They're only working with her in the end game out of necessity. They might want to keep Philippa around as a potential recurring antagonist though. Especially if they want to make more games in this series five or six years down the road.
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Aug 14, 2015 04:23
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I feel Yennefer probably wouldn't launch a preemptive strike on another sorceress, especially one as powerful as Philippa. If she were even slightly provoked, though... Of course, it would have to be Philippa's own hubris that did her in, at the end. But I could see Yennefer coming up with a plan ensuring that. I'm not sure she'd be a good main antagonist, but yeah, a recurring 'problem' for Ciri would make a lot of sense in terms of future stories.
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Snak posted:Ending chat: I was really sad to see Crach an Craite fall to Eredin. As much as I hate cutscene bullshit, I would have really liked it if, upon depleting Eredin's health bar, it went toa cutscene where Geralt was about to be killed by Eredin and then Eredin fell with an An Craite ax in his back, the final act of Crach an Craite. I love how Skellige, land of bullshitters and tough guys, got see literal Ragh nar Roog, exactly as it was prophesied, unfold, and their greatest heroes got to fight off the apocalypse. Generations of An Craites will tell the stories of Crach and Hjalmar ramming the Naglfar with their longboat and doing battle in the White Frost. Cerys will be remembered as the ruler whose kingdom withstood The Apocalypse. Final quest No joke I actually cheered and did a fist pump when Hjalmar's longboat rammed the Naglfar
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webmeister posted:Final quest No joke I actually cheered and did a fist pump when Hjalmar's longboat rammed the Naglfar I was not expecting it at all. I didn't realize what was happening, and then when I did I was like "haha holy poo poo yes!" So... since I just started the game over, this scene is fresh in my mind: Vesemir: "But at the very least, you ought to be able to tell a ghoul from an alghoul!" Ciri: "...by markings, like unto the panthera tigris that in Zerrikania dwells, and by the sickly paleness of its visage" and I can't help but imagine how it would have went with a young Geralt Geralt: "It doesn't have huge, retractable spines that pop out of its back?" Vesemir: "If I'd wanted sass, I would have asked Lambert!" But seriously, the idea that you could ever confuse ghouls and alghouls is laughable. Also I'm still disappointed I didn't find a Ras alghoul pun.
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Ice Fist posted:Min-max? I had over 20k just in selling the lovely items you loot off enemies by the time that quest started. If picking up and selling loot is min-max'ing then holy poo poo I am the spergiest guy to ever play this game. I'm level 13 and still poor as a heavily armed gravel voiced church mouse goddammit
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Aug 14, 2015 06:24
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I didn't run into an alghoul until many hours after the beginning and was like wtf is that that's not a regular ghoul. Then the bestiary entry popped up and I laughed.
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sebmojo posted:I'm level 13 and still poor as a heavily armed gravel voiced church mouse goddammit Also I just out-leveled Family Matters and the other level 6 main quest 
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Aug 14, 2015 06:26
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OAquinas posted:People are only just now beating the game if they've been doing a light gaming schedule/doing completionist runs. Gonna be another month or three. This thread does spoilers really well, and the story is good enough that I'm glad.
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Aug 14, 2015 06:27
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Also people are gonna replay to see the consequences of other decisions so keeping the spoiler tags make sense.
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Aug 14, 2015 06:30
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I finally got back to W2 and I just wanna say, in Flotsam, we guards
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Is Skellige's Most Wanted just really buggy? E: Dammit, yep seems to just be totally busted at the end. Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Aug 14, 2015 |
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Aug 14, 2015 07:54
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Hjalmar is the Skelligest Skelliger in all of Skellige. It doesn't feel right choosing his sister over him to rule the isles but it does seem to be the best ending of them.
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Aug 14, 2015 08:23
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CVagts posted:Hjalmar is the Skelligest Skelliger in all of Skellige. It doesn't feel right choosing his sister over him to rule the isles but it does seem to be the best ending of them. She's the ruler Skellige needs, not the ruler it deserves. just kidding tho, Hjalmar is a childish moron, and Cerys is a huge badass AND pretty smart.
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Aug 14, 2015 08:26
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Giving Hjalmar an axe and a beer is one thing, giving him responsibility over an entire kingdom is another.
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Aug 14, 2015 08:49
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Was wrapping up stuff before heading into the endgame, and I ran across a brand new quest, yay how exciti-"Kill the Troll." Oh, guess that one will just sit incomplete in my quest log forever then 
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Aug 14, 2015 09:21
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Also coming in late here, but god did killing Radovid's evil, stupid rear end feel good. Just a pity that Dijkstra had to follow him to the grave shortly after. Now if only we could do the same for The Sergeant, since I already gladly take the chance with his men at every opportunity. Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Aug 14, 2015 |
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Aug 14, 2015 09:46
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Jerusalem posted:Was wrapping up stuff before heading into the endgame, and I ran across a brand new quest, yay how exciti-"Kill the Troll." If it's the one in Skellige (Missing Miners) then there are few different approaches to it.
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Aug 14, 2015 10:34
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Who judges a quest by its name?
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A colleague at work told me I shouldn't plough through all the side quests I'm able to do just yet because there are some that interact with one an other. And by doing one I may prevent the completion of another, or I simply might not be able to complete one until I've done another. How true is this? So far I've just been talking the stance of: explore all of immediate surroundings collecting available quests and markers for points of interest, complete available side quests I can do, carry on with main story when I run out of those. Occasionally, i'll hit a point of interest near either of those and try and complete it if I'm at an appropriate level.
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Finally finished the game and man, shocked at how good everything seemingly went. Emhyr steamrolled Redania, very much a positive to me Temeria got to be a country again loyal under Nilfgaard Skellige became a much cooler place under Cerys Geralt set up shop in Kovir with Triss Ciri's all good and a rad ruler No mention of Yennefer, good riddance Fun times overall
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Snak posted:She's the ruler Skellige needs, not the ruler it deserves. just kidding tho, Hjalmar is a childish moron, and Cerys is a huge badass AND pretty smart. From the posts here, seems nobody picked Hjalner. What's his ending like? Does he just Leeroy Jenkins the entire Nilfgaardian armada?
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Strom Cuzewon posted:From the posts here, seems nobody picked Hjalner. What's his ending like? Does he just Leeroy Jenkins the entire Nilfgaardian armada? It's not bad, just different. Hjalmar basically continues the status quo by staying true to Skellige's raider traditions. He's a lot like King Bran - likable, charismatic, but a lovely ruler because he's rather be out biting whales to death or whatever than governing the isles.
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Aug 14, 2015 13:24
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Poolparty posted:If it's the one in Skellige (Missing Miners) then there are few different approaches to it. I just ran in, got him to chase me out, then ran past him till he forgot I was there, then looted the cave empty and just headed away. There was an interesting letter in the cave but no indications things went anywhere else, is there a way to resolve the quest without having to kill something whose only "crime" is killing Drowners (shouldn't I be giving it a medal instead?).
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Jerusalem posted:I just ran in, got him to chase me out, then ran past him till he forgot I was there, then looted the cave empty and just headed away. There was an interesting letter in the cave but no indications things went anywhere else, is there a way to resolve the quest without having to kill something whose only "crime" is killing Drowners (shouldn't I be giving it a medal instead?). Smack him around a little and he'll go "okay, okay, holy poo poo, I give," and then you can talk it out. It's a tried-and-true strategy with trolls in general.
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I don't think you are actually required to kill any troll to complete any quest in the game. I can think of a couple you'd need to kite around and play with their aggro range though.
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Oxxidation posted:Smack him around a little and he'll go "okay, okay, holy poo poo, I give," and then you can talk it out. Ahh okay, I'll give that a go. Poor dumb trolls  Manatee Cannon posted:I don't think you are actually required to kill any troll to complete any quest in the game. I can think of a couple you'd need to kite around and play with their aggro range though. That reminds me, I did find a cave with a couple of trolls in it and a bunch of Nekkers. The trolls fight the nekkers and kill them, and I helped them out, but once the nekkers are dead the trolls just stand around and can't be interacted with as far as I can tell. Are they part of some other quest I need to find first?
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Aug 14, 2015 13:58
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ZearothK posted:So, we have mod tools now, I guess? I'm glad of it
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Kin posted:A colleague at work told me I shouldn't plough through all the side quests I'm able to do just yet because there are some that interact with one an other. And by doing one I may prevent the completion of another, or I simply might not be able to complete one until I've done another. edit: The only time I know of (and I've beaten the game once already and have read this thread as it goes) that one quest stops another from being completed is when "Get Junior" conflicts with "Gangs of Novigrad" - they are each a way of completing the same objective so if you do one you cannot do the other. Otherwise do what you want you'll be fine.
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Oxxidation posted:It's not bad, just different. Hjalmar basically continues the status quo by staying true to Skellige's raider traditions. He's a lot like King Bran - likable, charismatic, but a lovely ruler because he's rather be out biting whales to death or whatever than governing the isles. It's funny how things are different in direction and message in this game than how things are shown in the Vikings TV series, but I'll be damned if the setting doesn't look much different from each other.
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I really want to argue about this, but I don't think it's worth it ultimately. In the Witcher universe arguing about which group of people is more noble is akin to comparing a bunch of turds to determine which stink the least. In the above comparison I rate the Skelligers as far less lovely than any of the Northern kingdoms or Nilfgaard.
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Aug 14, 2015 15:27
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Gopher already did a video about mods: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvaAT11nut8
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necrobobsledder posted:In some respects, I think the Skelligers are a less civilized group of the Wild Hunt. Eredin is of the same sort of mentality but merged with the moral compass of Phillipa. The Wild Hunt goes around killing folks and snatching up magical beings instead of scrounging for goods, but it hardly makes the Skelligers more noble. Actually what the Wild Hunt does, outside of trying to find Ciri, is kidnap people (mostly kids from what I remember of the books) and bring them back home as slaves. Originally in the books they wanted to force Ciri to sleep with their previous king to have a kid and allow the elves to have free reign to teleport wherever they want again but she escapes. So there's your motivation for the Wild Hunt.
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Jerusalem posted:
They are! I'll just say it's a mid-game Dijkstra quest and leave it at that. Edit: and if you're trying to get all the Gwent cards you'll want to do it.
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necrobobsledder posted:In some respects, I think the Skelligers are a less civilized group of the Wild Hunt. Eredin is of the same sort of mentality but merged with the moral compass of Phillipa. The Wild Hunt goes around killing folks and snatching up magical beings instead of scrounging for goods, but it hardly makes the Skelligers more noble. Their situations aren't that comparable given their respective cultures. The Aen Elle live in a centralized monarchy, and while Eredin's an absolute shitpot of a king he's at least got the sense to appoint a talented administrator to run things while he's off murdering people. Skellige's belligerent clan-states can get along just fine without a central governing body for the most part, so kings like Bran and Hjalmar aren't necessarily bad rulers, just ineffectual ones. They give the general populace someone to cheer over and maybe sort things out when too many body parts get hacked off in a clan feud or something.
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I just finished the game last night, and I was kind of disappointed in the ending. It seems to just end abruptly, and a bunch of characters don't really get mentioned at the end. And a lot of the choices I made didn't seem to have much effect on the outcome. For example: Because of my choices, Geralt went to Kovir with Triss, but Yennefer gets no mention at all. If you romance Yennefer instead, Triss would get no mention. If you do (or don't do) the quest to kill Radovid, the outcome of that only gets a brief mention in the epilogue and all you get is a little voiceover of one of those comic book panel things. My impression is that either my choices didn't really matter or that the story changed along with them so naturally that I didn't notice.
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Ludwig van Halen posted:I just finished the game last night, and I was kind of disappointed in the ending. While they are not cutscenes, you can effect pretty large scale change on the game world. I hear you on the lack of certain character epilogues though.
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