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Panfilo posted:Carriers are a lot of fun. I enjoy playing something that makes other people so frustrated they want to quit the game. I'd prefer the challenge and sportsmanship of opponents that don't mind dealing with carriers, and have the skill to make it challenging for me to deal with them.  Look at you, you special snowflake.
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If you want fun, drive a cruiser. They're the only fun ships right now, everything else is pure frustration because of cruisers.
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Aug 14, 2015 16:16
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The thing I like about Cruisers is they are incredibly versatile. You typically get a lot of guns with a good rate of fire, so they're pretty good at dealing with Destroyers. Against Battleships you can pelt them with HE and cause lots of fires. After tier 6, you can disrupt carrier strike runs and due to the AA, profile and agility of many cruisers most Carriers will actually avoid you.
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Aug 14, 2015 16:20
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Alright, so, the New York is a perfectly fine boat except that I keep having to fight Clevelands and 'getting in to brawl' doesn't work well when you can only go 17 knots and every section of your boat is constantly on fire.
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Aug 14, 2015 16:21
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I love #BlackLivesMatter
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Aug 14, 2015 16:37
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PirateBob posted:I love #BlackLivesMatter The best is when someone TKs you over it. I want to make someone turn purple because of it.
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Aug 14, 2015 16:43
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 /edit for bitching. Is there any talk of team stacks like WoT? Michi88 fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Aug 14, 2015 |
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Aug 14, 2015 17:04
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Panfilo posted:Complaints about unfair advantages from Carriers are obviously skewed toward IJN carriers, based on these stats. If IJN carriers had the same stats as USN carriers, they'd be on par/slightly better than Battleships, which is reasonable. You can't separate the stats by flight deck, so that's not necessarily the whole story. It's likely that fighter heavy carriers are holding the US line averages down more than the Japanese, especially at lower tiers (since fighter carrier players don't reach tier 10 as quickly). NTRabbit posted:If you want fun, drive a cruiser. They're the only fun ships right now, everything else is pure frustration because of cruisers. I honestly can't tell if this is a typo or just an NTRabbit post. For all the talk about cruisers beating battleships, it rarely happens that way in practice unless the battleship is playing especially badly. There's a reason Colorado is the only battleship past tier 5 not to outdamage every equal tier cruiser (and anyway the New Mexico at tier 6 outdamages every tier 7 cruiser). Fire does significant damage over time, but battleships do all their damage right away when they hit.
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Aug 14, 2015 17:15
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How is the Myogi supposed to be played? I can't seem to reliably hit anything at a distance, but if I try to close, my guns traverse way too slowly for any kind of close in fighting/maneuvering. This is the first ship where I've felt like it was a straight downgrade from the previous tier.
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Aug 14, 2015 17:33
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Devorum posted:How is the Myogi supposed to be played? I can't seem to reliably hit anything at a distance, but if I try to close, my guns traverse way too slowly for any kind of close in fighting/maneuvering. This is the first ship where I've felt like it was a straight downgrade from the previous tier. SUFFER WITH ME. In seriousness, the Myogi gets way better once it gets its upgrades because the ridiculous max-range gives it surprising accuracy at saner ranges and it can go 30 knots. That's like, the one good thing about it: The Myogi has a hell of a lot of speed, and firing while running away from better boats with your two back turrets is perfectly reasonable. Once its hull is maxed, the turret traverse also becomes good enough to fight closer in.
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Aug 14, 2015 17:40
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James Garfield posted:For all the talk about cruisers beating battleships, it rarely happens that way in practice unless the battleship is playing especially badly. There's a reason Colorado is the only battleship past tier 5 not to outdamage every equal tier cruiser (and anyway the New Mexico at tier 6 outdamages every tier 7 cruiser). I think this is more due to different experiences. Dying from the fire of 3+ Cruisers is like dying to thousands of papercuts. From my own experiences a single Cruiser isn't a threat to a BB. Having to deal with multiple Cruisers isn't easy. And more like to sink the BB, unless the BB gets a couple of very good hits.
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Aug 14, 2015 17:48
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The BB also can't, you know, run away from the cruisers very easily. The New York is incredibly slow, after all, and again: The Cleveland's guns are like lasers that shoot fire and its citadel is a mysterious tiny box.
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Night10194 posted:The BB also can't, you know, run away from the cruisers very easily. The New York is incredibly slow, after all, and again: The Cleveland's guns are like lasers that shoot fire and its citadel is a mysterious tiny box. I would not be shocked if the Cleveland didn't have a Citadel. I nailed a Cleveland with about 20 shots of 8inch AP at under 2km and no slope. Not a single Citadel shot.
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Aug 14, 2015 17:56
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I mean, I know it's off to the sides and the center area doesn't have one, but it's still really hard to hit the drat thing.
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Devorum posted:How is the Myogi supposed to be played? As little as humanly possible.
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Aug 14, 2015 18:00
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Awww yisssssss 
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Aug 14, 2015 18:10
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Devorum posted:How is the Myogi supposed to be played? I can't seem to reliably hit anything at a distance, but if I try to close, my guns traverse way too slowly for any kind of close in fighting/maneuvering. This is the first ship where I've felt like it was a straight downgrade from the previous tier. It's good enough once upgraded. Good belt armor Good speed Good rudder shift time Good turret turn time Bad deck armor Bad accuracy Get close to stuff.
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Aug 14, 2015 18:17
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At last. I have finished the Myogi...only to find that buying the New York has left me broke and I can't afford the Kongo yet. 
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Aug 14, 2015 18:21
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Xae posted:I would not be shocked if the Cleveland didn't have a Citadel. I nailed a Cleveland with about 20 shots of 8inch AP at under 2km and no slope. Not a single Citadel shot. I've hit the Citadel of the Cleveland, even with another Cleveland (shot range). Though most have been magazine citadel hits (below turrets). Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9sfAZSM3Hs Tank Boy Ken fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Aug 14, 2015 |
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Aug 14, 2015 18:46
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Have I mentioned how much I love the Warspite? I won btw  
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Aug 14, 2015 18:50
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James Garfield posted:I honestly can't tell if this is a typo or just an NTRabbit post. I'm at tier 5, and there's nothing a Destroyer or Battleship does that a Cruiser can't do better and more enjoyably. Battleships are death by a thousand flaming cuts at or just outside of max range for all but the Kongo, Destroyers are instant death death on being sighted by the planes that are sent everywhere to find destroyers, and not being able to get within the 5km it takes to actually torpedo anyone paying attention. The best two ships in every tier I've seen so far are both cruisers except for tier 6 with the New Mexico. It can be fun to drive carriers, but only if the mm doesn't screw up, and only if you don't fly anywhere near a cruiser. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Aug 14, 2015 |
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Aug 14, 2015 18:53
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I need a mod that puts a Kongo pagoda on my Minekaze and plays the Jaws theme when someone is in torp range.
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Aug 14, 2015 18:53
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Xae posted:I would not be shocked if the Cleveland didn't have a Citadel. The Cleveland's citadel is a very thin strip that's far under the waterline. Battleships aren't accurate enough to hit it. If you're super close, your shots skim off the the top armor. I've citadelled Clevelands in the god-machine Mogami. Usually at like 6-7 seconds of travel time.
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Aug 14, 2015 19:07
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Credit to WG, both the ones they've released so far have been entertaining to watch.
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Aug 14, 2015 19:21
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:The Cleveland's citadel is a very thin strip that's far under the waterline. Battleships aren't accurate enough to hit it. If you're super close, your shots skim off the the top armor. There is also citadels forward of main battery and behind rear battery, 9/10 shots on Clevelands are cits for me in my newmex, nc, iowa.
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Aug 14, 2015 19:24
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Michi88 posted:There is also citadels forward of main battery and behind rear battery, 9/10 shots on Clevelands are cits for me in my newmex, nc, iowa. I had a ton of trouble citadeling the Cleveland in the Ibuki but that may just be the 203s on the Ibuki being rear end.
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Aug 14, 2015 19:27
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Michi88 posted:There is also citadels forward of main battery and behind rear battery, 9/10 shots on Clevelands are cits for me in my newmex, nc, iowa. Clevelands certainly can't handle the tier 6 BBs. Both the Fuso and the NM are like the Clevelands kryptonite. However they seem to handle tier 7 BBs fine. I mean I don't often solo down full health tier 7s, but I feel like I can solo off way more hitpoints then I should be able to.
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Hagop posted:Clevelands certainly can't handle the tier 6 BBs. Both the Fuso and the NM are like the Clevelands kryptonite. However they seem to handle tier 7 BBs fine. I mean I don't often solo down full health tier 7s, but I feel like I can solo off way more hitpoints then I should be able to. Mogami on the other hand seems to be pure hell to all but the most elite battleship driver.
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radintorov posted:Credit to WG, both the ones they've released so far have been entertaining to watch.
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^^^^ I'm okay with that.
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Hagop posted:Clevelands certainly can't handle the tier 6 BBs. Both the Fuso and the NM are like the Clevelands kryptonite. However they seem to handle tier 7 BBs fine. I mean I don't often solo down full health tier 7s, but I feel like I can solo off way more hitpoints then I should be able to. You are playing wrong then, I can solo almost any BB with a cleveland, just stay at 14-16km and rain on them until they burn to death, they can't handle the number of fires you keep restarting on them.
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Washout posted:You are playing wrong then, I can solo almost any BB with a cleveland, just stay at 14-16km and rain on them until they burn to death, they can't handle the number of fires you keep restarting on them. Pretty much. HE is just too good at the moment. God I wish my internet was working properly so I could play. 
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Aug 14, 2015 21:11
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Does anyone know of a list/guide that shows how much XP is required per captain point ?
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Aug 14, 2015 21:33
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Blinks77 posted:I think I shall be keeping the New Mex. By the end i was averaging 2k base a game. Mostly because of retarded Clevelands going "i has turrets on mah back, must shoot with all of them" and getting AP'd through their citadels for their stupidity. Pharnakes posted:I'm on most nights, I haven't been on TS much since I've mostly been playing with non goon friends, but feel free to add me in game, Rudi_Starnberg. Blinks, what's your in game name ? Mine is Panzerblitz, adding Rudi later tonight.
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Hammerstein posted:Blinks, what's your in game name ? Mine is Panzerblitz, adding Rudi later tonight. Blinks. Originally enough.
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Aug 14, 2015 21:48
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Huh. Apparently this patch adds models and stats for USS Worcester  , some US cruiser with 4x3 8" guns and torpedo launchers, the Kamikaze class destroyer (looks like a premium Minekaze) and a Pensacola as originally built.I can't say no to the tier 10 looking ships, especially a tier 10 light cruiser, but I can't see the other two being anything but  premium ships.
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Request for the BB Ferguson confirmed works.
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James Garfield posted:Huh. Apparently this patch adds models and stats for USS Worcester Which Worcester are you talking about? The only one I know had 6x2 6" guns and kind of sucked, mostly because the guns were heavily optimised for AA but were too big and slow to be any use against jets and too AAish to be much use for anti surface fire. But she did manage to waste a few million bucks (ineffectually) engaging some geese once.
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Pharnakes posted:Which Worcester are you talking about? The only one I know had 6x2 6" guns and kind of sucked, mostly because the guns were heavily optimised for AA but were too big and slow to be any use against jets and too AAish to be much use for anti surface fire. She sucked IRL, but who doesn't want a ship with 12 6" guns that are to the cleveland what the Des Moines' 8"s are to the other heavy cruisers.
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