WobblySausage posted:They were saved from concussion related brain injuries No they had that right as an athlete removed from them.
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I would not separate the NCAA and NFL. We've had a nice mixture as it is of winners from both sides of the fence, and the distinction between them is no different than the perennial other split debates that come up in this thing of Douche vs. Evil or Single Man vs. Organization or ESPN Commentators vs. Humans. The debate between college and pro will continue to happen as it comes up, and indeed will happen more often if we continue to mix the candidates throughout the tournament instead of saving it for the end.
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Aug 12, 2015 21:24
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Incoherence posted:The occasional conflict between NCAA posters and NFL posters is half the fun of a final like the one we just had, though. This. Since it's really NFL fans poopooing college ball.
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Aug 12, 2015 21:32
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Okay, the consensus seems to be no split. Next question on format: did you prefer the sort by seed from this year, or did you prefer seeded categories (players, admin, media, wildcard) from the last two years?
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Aug 12, 2015 23:30
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Ben Has Tiny Weenus posted:Okay, the consensus seems to be no split. I think it should be a year by year thing. Like see who the nominees are and make the bracket accordingly. For instance, this year a split NFL/NCAA douche off would have been good. You had multiple strong contenders in each category, and it sucks that sometimes the matchup comes down to "I don't care about college football, so its opponent by default". However next year there might only be one or two good nominees from college. Same thing with brackets of admins, media, players, etc. I think its best to see how the nominees shake out and go from there.
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Aug 12, 2015 23:36
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Categories though I'll admit that Millitree's baller bracket graphics really made that work best Also I'm in favor of pro/college split if that ship hasn't fully sailed
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Aug 12, 2015 23:37
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Neil Armbong posted:This. Since it's really NFL fans poopooing college ball.  (just trying to keep my arguing-gland warm in this now freshly started Douch-of-the-Year Offseason) No Safe Word posted:Categories though I'll admit that Millitree's baller bracket graphics really made that work best Yeah I kinda miss the pretty pretty princes Douche-bracket but don't mistake that as me still not being grateful for running the contest again, BHTWeenus  - If I can remember about this whole thing sooner next year I can do bracket graphics if no one steps up to the plate.
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Aug 13, 2015 01:20
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swickles posted:I think it should be a year by year thing. Like see who the nominees are and make the bracket accordingly. For instance, this year a split NFL/NCAA douche off would have been good. You had multiple strong contenders in each category, and it sucks that sometimes the matchup comes down to "I don't care about college football, so its opponent by default". However next year there might only be one or two good nominees from college. Same thing with brackets of admins, media, players, etc. I think its best to see how the nominees shake out and go from there. I agree with this 100%. Also while I voted Brady I can admit that a worthy douche was crowned.
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Aug 13, 2015 01:29
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effectual posted:I agree with this 100%. Yeah that's actually not a bad idea. Maximize the integrity of the tournament that way.
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Aug 13, 2015 02:15
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Ya I was pro Brady but Paul is a good douche. There's a good split between pro and college winners. My only problem is with these douche groups. I feel like one specific douche should represent the group, as Paul did with the BoT.
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Aug 13, 2015 02:26
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I think I bring this up every time, but: 1) We need concrete examples of douche vs evil. 2) We need people to stick to the 12 month statute of limitations, so when names are submitted we can cross check what is germane. 3) We need to establish whether actions taken over a year ago count if something happened this year building off of it (eg Winston posting that crab legs photo allows us to discuss him stealing them a priori). 4) I want someone to convince me that Roethlisberger deserves to be the name of the trophy when he "only" forced himself on a woman. I feel like an NCAA player could attempt to kill a rival player and they wouldn't even win the bracket because some big name NFL player was a touch more smug. 5) I want someone to make me dinner at some point. That sounds lovely.
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Aug 13, 2015 03:15
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Zurreco posted:I think I bring this up every time, but: 1) Tom Brady 2) Yep. 3) It goes to character, your honor. 4) Duke Chin posted:Well, I mean, I'm okay with calling it The Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr. Douche of the Year Award if you are... Edit: 5a) vvvv goddamnit now I want some of that  vvv
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Aug 13, 2015 03:21
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Zurreco posted:
My town's weekly farmer's market has a vendor selling homemade pasta, and there's a pumpkin flavored linguine they have that is so good when combined with some sausage and a bit of pesto and red pepper marinara. 5 dollar meal I can cook in 10 minutes.
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effectual posted:My town's weekly farmer's market has a vendor selling homemade pasta, and there's a pumpkin flavored linguine they have that is so good when combined with some sausage and a bit of pesto and red pepper marinara. 5 dollar meal I can cook in 10 minutes. What town is that?
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Aug 13, 2015 04:09
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swickles posted:I think it should be a year by year thing. Like see who the nominees are and make the bracket accordingly. For instance, this year a split NFL/NCAA douche off would have been good. You had multiple strong contenders in each category, and it sucks that sometimes the matchup comes down to "I don't care about college football, so its opponent by default". However next year there might only be one or two good nominees from college. Same thing with brackets of admins, media, players, etc. I think its best to see how the nominees shake out and go from there. I like this. I'll just play it by ear. Zurreco posted:I think I bring this up every time, but: 1. It is pretty subjective. I have always gone with the litmus test of "Does this person deserve prison time or a swift kick to the balls?" 2. I usually try to include all of the relevant issues in the writeups. If someone heavily relies on non relevant reasoning in their multi point posts, I'll deduct. 3. Gotta play this by ear. The crab leg thing is relevant to this because serving crab legs at a draft party would be inconsequential on its own. 4. After season 8, I'll do a brief tournament of champions for naming rights...or I might do it before the next season and do a 4 douche tourney and just eliminate the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals, the season two winner, because that was a dumbass champion. 5. Find yourself a girl on tinder to do it for you. Duke Chin posted:Yeah I kinda miss the pretty pretty princes Douche-bracket but don't mistake that as me still not being grateful for running the contest again, BHTWeenus I'll try to remember you for this. Militree said he'd do it again, but he fell off the face of the earth. He said he had a massive workload, so I don't blame him.
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Aug 13, 2015 04:52
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Zurreco posted:What town is that? A seattle suburb.
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Zurreco posted:What town is that? Pike Place Market has(had?, its been about 2 years) a vendor selling all types of homemade pasta. My favorites were the spinach and the chocolate.
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Aug 13, 2015 06:54
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Mrit posted:Pike Place Market has(had?, its been about 2 years) a vendor selling all types of homemade pasta. My favorites were the spinach and the chocolate. Yeah, Pappardelle's is still there, and the jalapeno linguine is still great. He had said it was from a weekly farmer's market, though, and I haven't seen anyone selling homemade pastas at the ones that I've been to.
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Aug 13, 2015 07:34
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Zurreco posted:Yeah, Pappardelle's is still there, and the jalapeno linguine is still great. He had said it was from a weekly farmer's market, though, and I haven't seen anyone selling homemade pastas at the ones that I've been to. Oh you live round Seattle? Well it's the renton farmer's market, but my impression is that these vendors spend each day of the week at a different FM around the city since they all stagger their days (probably for this exact reason). The fairy bakery out of issiquah makes good pumpkin bread too, they show up to these markets as well.
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Aug 13, 2015 07:41
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Ben Has Tiny Weenus posted:I won't do that because we only have like 40 people voting per match in the early rounds, and that would dilute it further. God drat... it's glorious The douche bracket just got conferences, baby!!!!!
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Aug 13, 2015 15:13
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I think groups should be excluded unless they're an official organization or something that people would identify themselves as being a part of. UAB Board of Trustees and Pats fans would be in and "Adrian Peterson defenders" and "Lynch Mob" would be out.
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Cruel and Unusual posted:I think groups should be excluded unless they're an official organization or something that people would identify themselves as being a part of. UAB Board of Trustees and Pats fans would be in and "Adrian Peterson defenders" and "Lynch Mob" would be out. If this means I can't vote for Seattle fans again, then I'm against it.
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Aug 13, 2015 19:04
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Which one of you is $10 poorer lmfao
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Aug 13, 2015 19:35
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hahaha awesome
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Cruel and Unusual posted:I think groups should be excluded unless they're an official organization or something that people would identify themselves as being a part of. UAB Board of Trustees and Pats fans would be in and "Adrian Peterson defenders" and "Lynch Mob" would be out. I see what you are saying, and I mostly agree. The reason I created the team up "Lynch Mob" for example is because they had all mostly done the same thing, and if they faced off the question would just be "Who said the douchier thing about the same guy for the same reason?" which is kind of dull. I'll avoid doing that in the future, and I think I will apply your rule that the only groups are official groups.
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Aug 13, 2015 19:44
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Tom Brady posted:Which one of you is $10 poorer lmfao If $10 means poo poo to you then go use reddit or some other free forum. 
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Cruel and Unusual posted:I think groups should be excluded unless they're an official organization or something that people would identify themselves as being a part of. UAB Board of Trustees and Pats fans would be in and "Adrian Peterson defenders" and "Lynch Mob" would be out. agreed with this, maybe we should have the worst individual from each "group" more or less represent the group. Like for the Lynch Mob it would be that Ed Sherman guy. Otherwise every year I'm just going to nominate "Football Fans" or "people" and you would all be wrong to vote otherwise
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Febreeze posted:agreed with this, maybe we should have the worst individual from each "group" more or less represent the group. Like for the Lynch Mob it would be that Ed Sherman guy. Otherwise every year I'm just going to nominate "Football Fans" or "people" and you would all be wrong to vote otherwise "goons" - the perennial powerhouse of the DotY
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Aug 13, 2015 21:18
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Tom Brady posted:Which one of you is $10 poorer lmfao Awww, boo - they should have used the version with the drawing Photoshopped on to the game day picture.  
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Aug 13, 2015 22:34
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Pats fans are warming up for next year's tourney by e-stalking that artist.
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Tom Brady posted:Which one of you is $10 poorer lmfao Wait, and no red text? You probably did it yourself then came in here to be all  .
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Aug 14, 2015 01:38
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So what would the the Lynch Mob need to be? NFL Writer's Association? Superbowl Press Media? Those seem too broad, but I also wouldn't want to miss the douchebaggery caused by all their tut-tutting. Bizarro-Marshawn: he who only lives for plattitudes and is not at all bout that action, boss.
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Duke Chin posted:Wait, and no red text? You probably did it yourself then came in here to be all Lol whatever helps you sleep
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Ben Has Tiny Weenus posted:I see what you are saying, and I mostly agree. The reason I created the team up "Lynch Mob" for example is because they had all mostly done the same thing, and if they faced off the question would just be "Who said the douchier thing about the same guy for the same reason?" which is kind of dull. I'll avoid doing that in the future, and I think I will apply your rule that the only groups are official groups. My only defense for Adrian Peterson Fans was that I had to hear weeks of people like Ditka and Keyshawn and other media members defend child abuse. So, saying NFL media, or ESPN talking heads is too broad but still we need to acknowledge the douchiness of defending child abuse/domestic abuse ect. Also, you should keep the 2nd Circut because I love early champion weirdness.
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Mooseontheloose posted:My only defense for Adrian Peterson Fans was that I had to hear weeks of people like Ditka and Keyshawn and other media members defend child abuse. So, saying NFL media, or ESPN talking heads is too broad but still we need to acknowledge the douchiness of defending child abuse/domestic abuse ect. AP defenders was a weak as hell entrant this year because no one ever cited specific examples so the write up was bare bones. 8th circuit court of appeals was a lovely champion because goons are incapable of separating their righteous rage towards a greater institution from a douchey act. Yes, Bush appointed judges are naturally going to be terrible, but that vote felt like it was raging against conservative politics in general, which while a good target, it's hardly the point of the tournament. It also kept out a highly deserving champion in Jim "I rig raffles to impress recruits" Tressel. It's why I am going to think long and hard about ever putting a police department in the tournament again.
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The only way police departments should be added is if some police department somewhere puts on a charity game where they stomp some peewee team into the ground. But police unions acting as their own bad PR firm after Ferguson, that doesn't need to get added.
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maybe we should chill on the unenforceable rules and just have a fun contest with lots of goofy discourse
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Wall Balls posted:maybe we should chill on the unenforceable rules and just have a fun contest with lots of goofy discourse The rules being discussed are mostly stuff on my end as far as bracket arrangement, nominee grouping, and who I allow in. I would never do anything to jeopardize the goofyness of the tournament.
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I kind of agree with the idea of not letting St. Louis PD in, even though it was clearly sports related. However, I think some agencies like TPD should be let in because they had a pattern of continually not investigating or giving special treatment to football players. Still, there offenses should be limited to that and not other douchey things they have done.
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swickles posted:I kind of agree with the idea of not letting St. Louis PD in, even though it was clearly sports related. However, I think some agencies like TPD should be let in because they had a pattern of continually not investigating or giving special treatment to football players. Still, there offenses should be limited to that and not other douchey things they have done. Yea I think if the outside group had an active hand in football poo poo like TPD very overtly choosing to give football players special treatment then that's valid, but SLPD, while huge douches, weren't really FOOTBALL douches, they were just kinda douches that happened to get mad at football men while getting mad at basically any other black person of profile who said 'yea maybe you guys hosed up'.
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