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Levantine
Feb 14, 2005

GUNDAM!!!

Ibram Gaunt posted:

I didn't get the last attack bonus or w/e on the first boss in SAO because I got stunned right before it died. :whitewater: How important are those items anyways

There is an achievement for getting all of them. You can get them on NG+ if you want, though. The items are good but nowhere near the best in the game. When a boss gets low, Hit L1 and use the command to make everyone retreat so you're the only person fighting. It wont last for long so make sure you use it right at the end.

As far as weapon viability, the only weapon I've ever been told is no good is spear but I have no idea if that's true or not. Mace is baller as all hell though. It has a TON of stuns. Dual Wield is probably the easiest setup for damage but it's fun to mix things up.

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Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

The White Dragon posted:

You got it backwards, the zombies are the villagers! They all have like 1HP, but you automatically counterattack anything that doesn't hit you in the back(?), and you gotta kill the actual enemies before too many villagers get countered to death :eng101:

I hate that stage.

I knew I had that wrong somehow because that didn't sound as irritating as I remembered. :v:

MotU
Mar 6, 2007

It was like she was evicting walking garbage.
Pillbug

Paperhouse posted:

I can't tell if that's a genuine recommendation, as most of the things I've read about Hoshigami have made me stay away from it.

Hoshigami has bullshit dumb difficulty unless you cheese the game (which I feel is better than "has 0 difficulty and cheesing the game makes it sleepwalk-able like every other SRPG), otherwise you have to grind a stupid amount. I don't know what the other complaints are, if there are any

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

I found a katana are started using that and it's neat so far but I still only have one skill and can't even unlock mastery 1 yet even though I've been messing around with it for like 45mins which is annoying.

MotU
Mar 6, 2007

It was like she was evicting walking garbage.
Pillbug

Sakurazuka posted:

I knew I had that wrong somehow because that didn't sound as irritating as I remembered. :v:

I loved that stage when I first played the game as a kid because I think it was the first stage in a SRPG where I just didn't have to kill everything willy nilly

some bust on that guy
Jan 21, 2006

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.

Sakurazuka posted:

I love Vandal Hearts to death but it looked like poo poo even when it first came out.

Those blood spurts will never not be hilarious to me.

Of course they're hilarious.

I'm surprised at the responses. I thought people would see pixilated blood fountains as charming old school.

VH looks as bad as almost any 1996 PS1 game but I think VH's visuals are bad in a funny entertaining way rather than bad in a bland put you to sleep way. I was thinking about how colorful VH was while I was trying out TO and it really made me wish I was playing VH.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
If you seriously can't understand why you got the responses you did, literally nothing will help you and this topic should be moved on

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR


What is SAO?

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!
Sword Art Online, which afaik is about a guy who's really good at MMOs getting cucked constantly

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

The White Dragon posted:

Sword Art Online, which afaik is about a guy who's really good at MMOs getting cucked constantly

...

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

"le cuck meme"

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
for real though sword art online has tentacle rape in it

Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013




Tallgeese posted:

What is SAO?

I don't know but apparently a comically large amount of semen is involved.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010


epic

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Apologies, it's a Japanese game so I should've said NTR

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

:ughh:

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

I don't know poo poo about the SAO story nor do I care but the game is epic

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy
Does the SAO game have stuff like the .hack games had? I could read a fake message board for days.

Admiral H. Curtiss
May 11, 2010

I think there are a bunch of people who can create trailing images. I know some who could do this as if they were just going out for a stroll.
If you want a game with a good fake internet, play Front Mission 3.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Rascyc posted:

Does the SAO game have stuff like the .hack games had? I could read a fake message board for days.

Not really

Levantine
Feb 14, 2005

GUNDAM!!!

Ibram Gaunt posted:

I found a katana are started using that and it's neat so far but I still only have one skill and can't even unlock mastery 1 yet even though I've been messing around with it for like 45mins which is annoying.

You can't learn Katana skills until you max out Scimitars. Once you do you'll have access to the Katana Mastery skill. Same goes for 2H sword, you have to master 1H first. I think they are the only two weapon types that have that requirement though.

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

Levantine posted:

You can't learn Katana skills until you max out Scimitars. Once you do you'll have access to the Katana Mastery skill. Same goes for 2H sword, you have to master 1H first. I think they are the only two weapon types that have that requirement though.

That sounds dumb.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

it is dumb because getting 1h to 600 mastery to unlock scimitars wasn't too bad, getting scimitar all the way to 1000 is extremely annoying right now.

Levantine
Feb 14, 2005

GUNDAM!!!

Ibram Gaunt posted:

it is dumb because getting 1h to 600 mastery to unlock scimitars wasn't too bad, getting scimitar all the way to 1000 is extremely annoying right now.

Best way to level weapon proficiency is to stack items/abilities that increase attack speed/double attack and just auto attack the highest level enemy you can. Don't use burst or skills. You get weapon exp per hit and auto attacking is way faster. Multiple attack skills help stack the exp. Ideally you want to fight something like 20 levels higher than you as long as it's not a monster type that will kill you.

If you do it in Multiplayer it might only take you like a half an hour.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy
This game seems bad just listening in on this conversation.

Levantine
Feb 14, 2005

GUNDAM!!!

Rascyc posted:

This game seems bad just listening in on this conversation.

It's... pretty grindy, but combat is fun. It's fairly active and you are rewarded for reacting to attacks by actively parrying or dodging. You can unlock combo chains and such and there is a lot of variety in the game. The game is only grindy and bad if you try to do everything. Don't try to do everything.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Levantine posted:

Best way to level weapon proficiency is to stack items/abilities that increase attack speed/double attack and just auto attack the highest level enemy you can. Don't use burst or skills. You get weapon exp per hit and auto attacking is way faster. Multiple attack skills help stack the exp. Ideally you want to fight something like 20 levels higher than you as long as it's not a monster type that will kill you.

If you do it in Multiplayer it might only take you like a half an hour.

Are enemies in MP just inherintly stronger or do things give more xp? I wouldn't mind just doing a solo MP game to grind the xp to use the weapon I actually want to use (and blew all my money making cuz I misread the cost at the smith)

Levantine
Feb 14, 2005

GUNDAM!!!

Ibram Gaunt posted:

Are enemies in MP just inherintly stronger or do things give more xp? I wouldn't mind just doing a solo MP game to grind the xp to use the weapon I actually want to use (and blew all my money making cuz I misread the cost at the smith)

Yes, on Normal, enemies are about 20 levels higher than they would be in single player. This is offset by either doing Solo Multiplayer (you can take 3 party members in) or playing with other players. Or if you're comfortable with combat, find a good place and just grind by yourself. I like to do that mission in Selvandys Forest north of the abandoned weapon test site; there is a Hollow Mission where four Tree enemies spawn. The mission is to kill them all at the same time or close, because they respawn incredibly quickly. You can exploit this by leaving one tree up and just grinding on the constantly spawning trees. If you take a partner, it's also a great way to level their battle types (Attack/Defense/Buffer) too.

If you find yourself kind of behind want some gear/money/items, I can give you some. PSN: Levantine1978 I have a lot of the Rank 6 weapons and some of the rarer armor and more money than I'll ever be able to spend.

EDIT: this map is the place I'm talking about : http://swordartonline.info/botany-paradise-northern-section/ - it's from the Vita version so the names are different but you can teleport into that crystal, and the Hollow mission spawns in that large room at the top. You can just select the mission directly in Multiplayer too.

Levantine fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Aug 16, 2015

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

Im looking at this ps4 sao game and it says it comes out in november. Do you get the ps4 ver of the first one right now if you preorder it?

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

corn in the bible posted:

for real though sword art online has tentacle rape in it
thank you, resident japanese porn expert.

edit: also the sao game is pretty grindy but that's kind of its express purpose, so it isn't really a negative.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

Endorph posted:

thank you, resident japanese porn expert.

that's not plutonis

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice

Endorph posted:

thank you, resident japanese porn expert.

:ironicat:

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

my expertise in japanese porn is pure admiration for the craft

corn in the bible is a weirdo who constantly posts about it but simultaneously acts like he's above it

MotU
Mar 6, 2007

It was like she was evicting walking garbage.
Pillbug
those who seek to transcend japanese porn must fully submerge themselves in it first. only the worthy will rise to the top

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

MotU posted:

those who seek to transcend japanese porn must fully submerge themselves in it first.

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

So I've played two and a half hours of Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume and if's already presented a more compelling and tempting moral choice then most rpgs.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

yeah it's cool. my one complaint with it is that it could have done with some FE style fleshing out of the dudes you get but on the other hand an outright support system would have been a little awkward so eh

Variant_Eris
Nov 2, 2014

Exhibition C: Colgate white smile

Endorph posted:

yeah it's cool. my one complaint with it is that it could have done with some FE style fleshing out of the dudes you get but on the other hand an outright support system would have been a little awkward so eh

Especially since you kill 75% of the cast during any given route. And you recruit 4-5 at most.

Caros
May 14, 2008

Ibram Gaunt posted:

it is dumb because getting 1h to 600 mastery to unlock scimitars wasn't too bad, getting scimitar all the way to 1000 is extremely annoying right now.

Not sure if it is patched out in the ps4, bit on Vita there was an implement you could do in the hollow fragment section of the game that set your attack speed to some ridiculously high number as part of the quest condition.

In the original you could go from 0 to 1000 in about five minutes of auto, and you should have enough time to level two or three weapon types in the one chance you have.

I'm phone posting so feel free to google it yourself, if only to save you from the grind.

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corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
i asked plutonis what sword art online was and he told me not to watch it because there's a bunch of tentacle rape. i take his statements as expert testimony.

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