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Full clears suck if your DPS aren't up to scratch.
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I wish there was some kind of incentive for tanks to do full clears, like extra tomestones or something, but I'm also OK with the solution of just not having optional mobs and making bosses a bigger chunk of the total XP.
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Aug 16, 2015 02:45
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I only asked for full clears when I wanted the map achievements. Otherwise why bother, really.
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Aug 16, 2015 02:53
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Has there been any word on plans to establish more housing wards? There's literally one open plot for like 200M on the server my friends have their FC on.
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Aug 16, 2015 05:38
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I got DRK to 50 and my god, that quest  I can see why people say DRK quests are disappointing post 50.
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Aug 16, 2015 05:57
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Fister Roboto posted:I wish there was some kind of incentive for tanks to do full clears, like extra tomestones or something, but I'm also OK with the solution of just not having optional mobs and making bosses a bigger chunk of the total XP. They already modified to go with this a bit with 3.0, I suppose it wouldn't hurt to make it go a little further.
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Aug 16, 2015 05:59
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Leal posted:I got DRK to 50 and my god, that quest Bah, gently caress that. Post-50 DRK quests have a slow start, but from 56 on they're quite good. 58 in particular is spectacular.
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Aug 16, 2015 06:32
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Leal posted:I got DRK to 50 and my god, that quest One lingering question: Why can't dark side me pocket heal through fates, sometimes the bird isn't enough.
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Aug 16, 2015 06:45
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Captain Oblivious posted:Bah, gently caress that. Post-50 DRK quests have a slow start, but from 56 on they're quite good. 58 in particular is spectacular. Yeah, post-50 DRK is quite satisfying really, especially the conclusion at 60. Can't hold a candle to 30-50 DRK, but nothing in this game really can 
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Aug 16, 2015 06:48
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Truga posted:I only asked for full clears when I wanted the map achievements. Otherwise why bother, really. Had one guy tell me not to skip the 3 dragons in the aery because he was grinding it out and it's 45k experience he doesn't get not killing those. Multiply that by 6-8 times he has to do it and it comes out to a nice chunk. I'd just rather save the 3-4 mins and not do them but whatever. Hakuke Manor is one of the terrible ones to full clear. Easily adds an extra 10 mins onto the run. Same with the place with all those pugils and the poison dragon.
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Aug 16, 2015 06:58
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I have never seen anyone do or anyone ask for a full clear of Haukke. I don't think 95% of people realize there are other places to go asides from the cells in the basement and the stuff you need to unlock the last boss.
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Aug 16, 2015 07:09
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A Sastasha full clear like triples the mob count when you're low level enough that everything sucks.
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Aug 16, 2015 07:11
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The only dungeon I like to clear fully is Brayflox. It's not that hard to do and it's a pretty common dungeon with all the DRKs / ASTs / MCH leveling up there. If you're a DPS it doesn't hurt to give some courtesy to say "hey can we do a full clear?" to help out.
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Aug 16, 2015 07:16
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Holyshoot posted:Had one guy tell me not to skip the 3 dragons in the aery because he was grinding it out and it's 45k experience he doesn't get not killing those. Multiply that by 6-8 times he has to do it and it comes out to a nice chunk. I'd just rather save the 3-4 mins and not do them but whatever. I pull those dragons anyway since they usually get woken up one way or another and I'd rather handle them at the start than scramble around to aggro them in the middle of the fight. Plus one dragon 'guards' a chest and I need dungeon gear for all my non-tanks. Quick stuff on the way I usually pull but when I have to go into a bunch of side areas or annoying areas with annoying mobs I tend not to bother. People rarely ask for full clears (I have gotten and honored requests for the Morbol fruit.) EponymousMrYar fucked around with this message at 07:28 on Aug 16, 2015 |
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Aug 16, 2015 07:25
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Holyshoot posted:Had one guy tell me not to skip the 3 dragons in the aery because he was grinding it out and it's 45k experience he doesn't get not killing those. Multiply that by 6-8 times he has to do it and it comes out to a nice chunk. I'd just rather save the 3-4 mins and not do them but whatever. IIRC: those dragons are worth like 4k each or something.
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Aug 16, 2015 07:29
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Holyshoot posted:Had one guy tell me not to skip the 3 dragons in the aery because he was grinding it out and it's 45k experience he doesn't get not killing those. Multiply that by 6-8 times he has to do it and it comes out to a nice chunk. I'd just rather save the 3-4 mins and not do them but whatever. You will awaken the sleeping beast that thinks everyone should kill every monster in every dungeon..... ever.
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Aug 16, 2015 08:00
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I usually--and generally see other tanks--skip dragons except the treasure chest one.
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Aug 16, 2015 08:33
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If you're really concerned with XP/hour post-50 you shouldn't be doing dungeons anyway. I guess a lot of people still don't know that they really buffed HW fates.
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Aug 16, 2015 08:39
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Boten Anna posted:I usually--and generally see other tanks--skip dragons except the treasure chest one. That's odd, I don't think I have ever once seen a tank let even a single dragon lie. They usually pull them along with the smaller dragons so people will AOE them all down.
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Aug 16, 2015 08:40
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Fister Roboto posted:If you're really concerned with XP/hour post-50 you shouldn't be doing dungeons anyway. I guess a lot of people still don't know that they really buffed HW fates. Where do people usually do fates? I checked out CWH but I didn't see anybody grinding there.
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Aug 16, 2015 08:52
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Whatever's appropriate for your level. Doing a fate above your level doesn't get you any extra XP, while doing one below your level gets you significantly less. Churning Mists and the Hinterlands are popular for the epic fate chains they have.
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Aug 16, 2015 08:55
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Fister Roboto posted:If you're really concerned with XP/hour post-50 you shouldn't be doing dungeons anyway. I guess a lot of people still don't know that they really buffed HW fates. FATEs are dumb boring poo poo for bads that don't drop gear that you can equip/desynth/convert to seals.
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Aug 16, 2015 08:55
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Dungeons are fun.
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Aug 16, 2015 08:56
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Boten Anna posted:FATEs are dumb boring poo poo for bads that don't drop gear that you can equip/desynth/convert to seals. Why do you always seem so mad about fates?
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Aug 16, 2015 08:57
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Begemot posted:That's odd, I don't think I have ever once seen a tank let even a single dragon lie. They usually pull them along with the smaller dragons so people will AOE them all down. Likewise. I can understand why people might not clear the AV entrance, upper level of Haukke or a route in Toto-Rak. But why you'd not just park mobs on the dragons and kill them along with everything else when you've people levelling with you is quite beyond me.
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Aug 16, 2015 08:58
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nuru posted:Why do you always seem so mad about fates? They're really boring.
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Aug 16, 2015 09:09
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FATEs are fun to jump in from time to time while traveling. FATE grinding is boring as sin.
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Aug 16, 2015 09:15
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Jia posted:They're really boring. They fill the time between queues for dps and healers, hard to take offense to that.
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Aug 16, 2015 09:39
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Jia posted:They're really boring. So is leveling.
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Aug 16, 2015 09:52
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I can mindlessly grind FATEs while watching netflix, which is nice. If I don't feel like being lazy, dungeons are cool too. v v
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Aug 16, 2015 09:53
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Guys I'm CRAZY and do dungeons AND fates AND leves to level :o :o :o
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Aug 16, 2015 09:56
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Dear god! Get this man a psychiatrist. I think he might be playing the game.
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Aug 16, 2015 10:05
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Sometimes I worry that people who level off exclusively or almsot exclusively off FATES don't learn how to play their job effectively since literally the only thing you need for FATE credit is "learn to hit something once". Then I realize that bad player will be bads regardless, so why let it bother me?
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Aug 16, 2015 10:36
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Ignimbrite posted:I have never seen anyone do or anyone ask for a full clear of Haukke. I don't think 95% of people realize there are other places to go asides from the cells in the basement and the stuff you need to unlock the last boss. Heck, I still haven't finished my map of that place. Is there a recommended guideline on which level 50 dungeons to tackle first? I've got a huge list to go through to unlock the Hard roulette.
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Aug 16, 2015 13:04
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How much do you actually have to do in the HW fates to get gold contribution as a DPS? It felt like the requirements were more lax than pre-50 stuff.
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Aug 16, 2015 13:21
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ApplesandOranges posted:
I recently did this. I just unlocked them all and then queued for 5 at a time until I had them all done.
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Aug 16, 2015 13:32
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Kjermzs posted:I recently did this. I just unlocked them all and then queued for 5 at a time until I had them all done. I'm level 58 and haven't unlocked it. Is it worth unlocking still?
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Aug 16, 2015 13:39
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Boten Anna posted:I usually--and generally see other tanks--skip dragons except the treasure chest one. You don't even need to do the treasure chest one, you can just sneak up to the chest without waking it up by walking instead of running to save some time. Of course, chances are a DPS will charge in behind you and wake it up anyway.
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Aug 16, 2015 13:46
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RC Cola posted:I'm level 58 and haven't unlocked it. Is it worth unlocking still? The dungeons have neat environments and mechanics - it's worth doing each of them once just for the sake of seeing new things you haven't seen before.
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ApplesandOranges posted:
Do whatever, they're pretty much all great except for Copperbell, which is a flaming turd. Pharos/Lost City/Tam-Tara/AK hard/WP hard all have REALLY good music. Hullbreaker also has a super fun last boss.
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