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^^^^ You didn't get it at the best time poptart_fairy posted:Well, when the only black people of note are soul sucking demons it does tend to send across a fairly certain message - intentionally or not. Not really. Not unless you're looking for it, and even then, this is a stretch. Again, the succubus race has beasts of all colors of skin, and I can't fathom the mental gymnastics it takes to equate a succubus to black people. Why weren't there any Incubi in the game, huh?! Men can be discriminated against too! poptart_fairy posted:This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum and the fact the game handled both a gay man and cross dresser without relying on crude stereotypes just raises the question of why said black people were exotic soul sucking monsters in the first place. Black people weren't soul sucking monsters? A succubus was, not a black person. Do people look for non issues to get mad about? Hey, elves are the equivalent to whites in video games, and they're treated like 3rd class citizens in Novigrad. I am so nettled right now. lite_sleepr fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Aug 16, 2015 |
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The Sharmat posted:Oxenfurt isn't in Velen. It's across the Pontar. It's part of the Novigrad area. Yeah, even the thing with the troll who wants paint is considered a Novigrad sidequest by the game, so I'd say it's clear that the Novigrad area as a whole makes up about half of that map, not just the city itself.
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Carew posted:The other succubus was white. A couple of the ones *end game spoilers* that are on bald mountain hanging out with imlerith are black as well It doesn't matter though because this is a dumb conversation.
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Ice Fist posted:A couple of the ones *end game spoilers* that are on bald mountain hanging out with imlerith are black as well It really is. There are maybe 2 of them in the whole game that you can even interact with, one of them is white. Save for, as you said, a harem of them all at Imlerith's feet.
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Aug 16, 2015 16:35
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pik_d posted:You're not supposed to grind up to level ~48 for that Archgriffin. Just fight it at level 34 like everyone else. The 48 Archgriffin was cake @ lvl 35 for me. Just gotta be geared and have a good build.
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Where is that Archgriffin, anyway? Might as well give him a try before NG+ hits.
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ZearothK posted:Where is that Archgriffin, anyway? Might as well give him a try before NG+ hits. in skellige north of the ancient crypt waypoint on an island 
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:What is NG+? New Game+, where you start the game again with your endgame stats and equipment, with the difficulty adjusted to match. It is the last piece of free DLC the Wild Hunt is getting. Aye Doc posted:in skellige north of the ancient crypt waypoint on an island Ace, thanks. Talk about an easy fight if you have Alchemy and the poison skill with Hybrid Oil. ZearothK fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Aug 16, 2015 |
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I hope I don[t get burnt out. I have completely almost every sidequest and gotten every ? area in Novigrad and Velen, I am about ready to go to Skellige and I know for a fact i'll basically be starting over with it in a new land. I am just not looking forward to it and haven't played in like 2 days because i'm dreading it. You might just say "Oh you can some of the sidequests if you want!" but I can't, just can't do it man. I have another question thought actually about a side quest in Velen. Its called Fools Gold, i'm actually way past the point of it doing me any good but its on my list and I want to get it off. I can't finish it, I have to examine the pigs, so I go into Witcher Vision or whatever and try to interact with them but I can't. They are all red, I just can't interact with them though.
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:I hope I don[t get burnt out. I have completely almost every sidequest and gotten every ? area in Novigrad and Velen, I am about ready to go to Skellige and I know for a fact i'll basically be starting over with it in a new land. I am just not looking forward to it and haven't played in like 2 days because i'm dreading it. You might just say "Oh you can some of the sidequests if you want!" but I can't, just can't do it man. Oh man, I don't think the quest is bugged, I think you missed a house full of pigs. there's three houses of pigs, and you cant do anything with any of them, you just have to check on all of them. I was stuck there for a bit. That quest is pretty funny and you should finish it.
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It is however bugged later on. A different pig later is stuck in the floor and pretty well inaccessible. It and Skellige's Most Wanted are pretty much busted atm on console.
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What's with the mage dude outside Radovid's boat in Oxenfurt? I thought he hated mages.
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Holy poo poo killing the level 20 earth elemental near crookback bog at level 14 on deathmarch was so loving fun. That was a hella hard but hella awesome fight. When the combat in this game clicks it really clicks.
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Swedish Horror posted:What's with the mage dude outside Radovid's boat in Oxenfurt? I thought he hated mages. That's pretty much the only change you get if you allow the Council and the Conclave be reestablished by saving Triss at the end of W2.
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Never got to the end of Witcher 2 but that must be the option I chose during the W2 questions in Vizima. I have Witcher 2( and 1) in my Steam library and want to play it for the story but every time I try I don't make it 5 minutes before getting frustrated at lovely game mechanics. edit: are there any mods for W2 to make it less awful? Swedish Horror fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Aug 16, 2015 |
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How long does it take for a vendor's money to refresh?
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Snak posted:Oh man, I don't think the quest is bugged, I think you missed a house full of pigs. there's three houses of pigs, and you cant do anything with any of them, you just have to check on all of them. I was stuck there for a bit. That quest is pretty funny and you should finish it. I have ran through them multiple times, what do you mean by check on them?
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:I have ran through them multiple times, what do you mean by check on them? Oh, i could be wrong then. It's been a really long time since I did it. When I was stuck there, I was missing a pig or group of pigs, and once I had gone to all of the locations, it triggered an objective update. But that was before the last patch.
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Spite posted:At the risk of reopening a can of worms it feels pretty obvious that Ciri is totally fanservicey. She sticks her chest out when she walks (I didn't even notice this until it was pointed out to me), she's wearing loving heels, etc. And not just like the heels on normal riding boots, she's got serious heels on. She's designed to be look hot, just like all the other important female characters Geralt interacts with. I like the way they did Ciri, the one that made me laugh out loud was Ves. Cover up yo titties girl, you'll catch a CHILL
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People seem to have some weird idea that just because the author/game designers MEANT for it to be that way it can't still be fan service. Just because there is fan service doesn't mean it an irremediable terrible game now, but lets be for real.
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:Just because there is fan service doesn't mean it an irremediable terrible game now Is anyone saying this?
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Lord Lambeth posted:Is anyone saying this? No, not directly. I was responding to the people defending it saying there is no fan service in the game. You can still like a game and admit it has dumb stuff in it. Pretty much every game I have ever played that I liked a lot at some point made me roll my eyes a little bit.
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:I hope I don[t get burnt out. I have completely almost every sidequest and gotten every ? area in Novigrad and Velen, I am about ready to go to Skellige and I know for a fact i'll basically be starting over with it in a new land. I am just not looking forward to it and haven't played in like 2 days because i'm dreading it. You might just say "Oh you can some of the sidequests if you want!" but I can't, just can't do it man. Why would you try to 100% an open world game in one go? Swedish Horror posted:What's with the mage dude outside Radovid's boat in Oxenfurt? I thought he hated mages. Carduin of Lan Exeter. He's Radovid's puppet from TW2. He runs the Vichy Conclave and helps him with the witch hunts while trying to rationalize it to himself. RenegadeStyle1 posted:People seem to have some weird idea that just because the author/game designers MEANT for it to be that way it can't still be fan service. So you're suggesting Sapkowski wanted to titillate us with 15 year old Ciri's description? Let me submit that Ciri wears lots of eye makeup and heels because she thinks they look good and enjoys them. I know you guys are trying real hard to be progressive and culturally aware and crap, but the idea that women only do these things for the sexual gratification of men is actually pretty sexist.
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The Iron Rose posted:Holy poo poo killing the level 20 earth elemental near crookback bog at level 14 on deathmarch was so loving fun. That was a hella hard but hella awesome fight. When the combat in this game clicks it really clicks. Every battle against (high level) hard-hitting, slow-moving beasts, I thought of Oberyn Martell against the Mountain. Thoroughly satisfying. It's a super minor complaint, but the hop-hop-hop animation looks silly without noticeable variation, and you see a lot of it when you hit level 15 or 20 and your chief challenge is slaying monsters 10-20 levels ahead of you.
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RentACop posted:I won't lie I hate combat heels I used to think they were a cardinal sin of character design too, until I dated a girl that could run really fast in high heels. They're not nearly as debilitating as people seem to think, unless they're huge.
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Also, we need to define "fanservice", because to me it implies (in this context) "eye-candy for the fans". A lot of people are calling the sexualization of female characters "fanservice". This exact sort of titillation is present in the books, and I would argue that it's a core part of the product. It's not something that is being added "as fanservice". The Witcher universe is a bit pervy. So is it really "fanservice" that when that informs the design in a visual medium? Here's a couple of completely non-spoilery bits I read the other day: Andrzej Sapkowski, in Sword of Destiny posted:'What is your real name?' Geralt asked the one who had remained at the table. Véa flashed her white teeth. Her blouse was very loosely laced, almost to the limits of possibility. The Witcher had no doubt it was intentionally provocative. These are just examples, but I think they illustrate the "male gaze" aspect of things. There have been some replies while I was typing this, so [fake edit] The Sharmat posted:So you're suggesting Sapkowski wanted to titillate us with 15 year old Ciri's description? And I don't think it's necessarily sexist or bad. real edit: The Sharmat posted:I used to think they were a cardinal sin of character design too, until I dated a girl that could run really fast in high heels. They're not nearly as debilitating as people seem to think, unless they're huge. Snak fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Aug 16, 2015 |
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Actually we don't need to define fan service because it's a stupid argument and should be put to rest now
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Snak posted:No. But I think it was a reasonable design choice for CDPR to want to titillate us with 20 year old Ciri's appearance. And I also don't think that it's "fanservice" to do so. I don't think CDPR ever tried to titillate us with 20 year old Ciri's appearance. Yeah she looks good. So does Geralt. I think she's meant to look cool more than sexy, nor is there anything male-gazey about any of her scenes. Hell, even in the bathhouse, she's almost completely covered up. I don't know maybe I'm just a lot harder to titillate than most goons. Edit: Here, I'll define fanservice. Fan service is Roche abandoning everything he's working on to travel 300 miles into the Kaedweni mountains to go help Geralt at Kaer Morhen in the middle of a war.
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The Sharmat posted:Edit: Here, I'll define fanservice. Fan service is Roche abandoning everything he's working on to travel 300 miles into the Kaedweni mountains to go help Geralt at Kaer Morhen in the middle of a war. It's probably worth it because, in exchange for helping Geralt, he learns the location of, and access routes to, Kaer Morhen, which would be a fantastic place to wage the guerrilla war For Temeria! from.
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Being sexy and cool are frequently synonymous, for both sexes. Both men and women generally want to be cool, and part of that involves being sexy. It's just that there are different ways men and women are perceived as sexy. But I don't know why I'm getting involved in this.
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Someone mentioned that they didn't think you had to kill any trolls for major quests. What can you do about the one guarding the master armorer tools in Skellige? or is that one just feral?
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That one is just feral. There's a few like that in the game.Snak posted:It's probably worth it because, in exchange for helping Geralt, he learns the location of, and access routes to, Kaer Morhen, which would be a fantastic place to wage the guerrilla war For Temeria! from. It's incredibly far from Temeria. Beeez posted:Being sexy and cool are frequently synonymous, for both sexes. Both men and women generally want to be cool, and part of that involves being sexy. It's just that there are different ways men and women are perceived as sexy. But I don't know why I'm getting involved in this. This is true but I definitely think Ciri's attractiveness is almost entirely what she needs to look cool rather than going any further for the purposes of pure titillation. Hell...even Ves, I mean, her costume is pretty ridiculous. Almost like something out of another game. But she's not exactly traditionally sexy. She's pretty flat, has kind of a boyish body and hair cut, and below the neck she's got a bunch of scars and tattoos. The Sharmat fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Aug 16, 2015 |
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The Sharmat posted:That one is just feral. There's a few like that in the game. Oh yeah like, hundreds of miles, huh. Since we only ever fast-travel there, I kind of forgot it wasn't like, just up past the corner of Velen. Yeah I have no idea why he would do that.
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Fanservice. I know people want that moment, and it was cool having him there, but purely from a writing standpoint, it would make more sense if Roche refused like Crach does, but Ves volunteers to go instead. She's a good fighter but less crucial to all the stuff Roche is planning.
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