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Zelder posted:I guess you're right, we should just give up the meanings of words because ignorant people are ignorant I like the assertion that normal people see the term "ethnic cleansing" so often that we have to ration its usage.
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Zelder posted:I guess you're right, we should just give up the meanings of words because ignorant people are ignorant No, you softheaded twit, I'm saying that instead of quibbling over semantics, you actually loving say what's wrong with it and what's going to happen because of it. Don't say "Trump supports ethnic cleansing", that just gets you laughed at -- ethnic cleansing just for sending illegals back home? What a ridiculous idea! -- instead say, "Trump's immigration policy involves the deportation of millions and millions of people, which is not only an enormous undertaking and extremely expensive, it will also kill thousands and thousands of innocent children. Unless you want child blood on your hands, don't support Trump's immigration policy."
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Any time you have to fall back on "Well the dictionary says..." you have automatically loving lost the argument, no matter if you were correct or not.
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Zelder posted:I guess you're right, we should just give up the meanings of words because ignorant people are ignorant Use words that work- have some pragmatism for god's sake. E: literally yes, in the political sphere you have to use words as they will be understood regardless of their actual meaning.
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For a Republican, I kind of like Kasich okay. Is there a reason why Trump would be better than him to cinch the Republican win - besides Trump being entertaining as hell.
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Deporting illegals is not ethnic cleansing. I think it's a dumb policy but it's not ethnic cleansing. They would be removed from the country because they came illegally not because they are latino.
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Miltank posted:Use words that work- have some pragmatism for god's sake. I think ethnic cleansing would work just fine. Worked fine for explaining bombing the serbs after all. If people don't get it just say the Nazis and Soviets did it, which they did. Problem solved. cheesetriangles posted:Deporting illegals is not ethnic cleansing. I think it's a dumb policy but it's not ethnic cleansing. They would be removed from the country because they came illegally not because they are latino. He's not going to deport the dudes who overstayed their student visa from england, or Canadians who hopped borders. He's specifically using it to go after latinos.
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cheesetriangles posted:Deporting illegals is not ethnic cleansing. I think it's a dumb policy but it's not ethnic cleansing. They would be removed from the country because they came illegally not because they are latino. Hahahahahahha right
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Nintendo Kid posted:I think ethnic cleansing would work just fine. Worked fine for explaining bombing the serbs after all. Except you are patently terrible at propaganda.
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Miltank posted:Except you are patently terrible at propaganda. Well yes my control of East Germany did fail at the end, but that was like 25 years ago.
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What if you called Donald Trump's plan what it is: ethnic cleansing, and then explained how it fits that definition. You can both explain what is wrong with it and call it what it is. It just reminds me of similar arguments about how we shouldn't call things racist, because that makes people defensive. Which I also think is a silly argument.
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Nintendo Kid posted:I think ethnic cleansing would work just fine. Worked fine for explaining bombing the serbs after all. Why would Canadians come here
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Zelder posted:What if you called Donald Trump's plan what it is: ethnic cleansing, and then explained how it fits that definition. You can both explain what is wrong with it and call it what it is. That's why I brought up that you can truthfully say that Hitler and Stalin did it, which should be enough to get most people to oppose it. It's simple. EXTREME INSERTION posted:Why would Canadians come here There are dumb people in Canada too.
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:Why would Canadians come here Canada's economy is on the brink of collapsing and the jobs here are much better
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Zelder posted:What if you called Donald Trump's plan what it is: ethnic cleansing, and then explained how it fits that definition. You can both explain what is wrong with it and call it what it is. You can think it's silly or not, that's your prerogative, whatever, man. If you directly explain what it does you'll be much more effective at convincing people than if you use a categorical term for it, because the latter just invites quibbling and semantic argument. The exact same poo poo applies for "racist", instead of directly getting to the point, people will happily entangle themselves in an endless quagmire of "Well, no, it's not really racist, because..."
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cheesetriangles posted:Deporting illegals is not ethnic cleansing.
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cheesetriangles posted:Deporting illegals is not ethnic cleansing. I think it's a dumb policy but it's not ethnic cleansing. They would be removed from the country because they came illegally not because they are latino. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhutanese_refugees using the excuse that people are illegal aliens doesnt make it not ethnic cleansing
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The Leader of FREE REPUBLIC Jim Rob himself, just shat this out: quote:In response to George Will, Peter Wehner and the long list of GOPe pundits they reference who are trashing Trump today. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3325449/posts#comment
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blue squares posted:A lot of those people would wind up dead because of the policy. yeah that's my point. The people who are like, "We're not KILLING them, just sending them back home!" are just closing their eyes to the reality that they have no home to go back to. They think it's just fine because oh, we're just shooing them out the door, not HURTING them. Meanwhile outside the door is loving horrible.
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Beautiful. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
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Apathetic Panda posted:For a Republican, I kind of like Kasich okay. Is there a reason why Trump would be better than him to cinch the Republican win - besides Trump being entertaining as hell. Kasich can't poo poo all over Republican ideology and get a standing ovations, Trump can. As a result when Kasich helps the poor that is a mark against him, while Donal Trump can go far beyond expanding Medicare by calling for Universal Health care and get applause. Also Kasich's only hope is to be the establishment choice, which is currently split between Jeb!, Walker, Rubio, and Christie. As he's also got the least millionare/billionaire sugar daddy backing he's pretty hosed. The only reason he beat out Perry to avoid the Kiddie Table debate is that he timed his announcement perfectly to take advantage of his polling bump. We are at most weeks away from him polling alongside Pataki and Gilmore.
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Zelder posted:What if you called Donald Trump's plan what it is: ethnic cleansing, and then explained how it fits that definition. You can both explain what is wrong with it and call it what it is. Because, if you ask me, as soon as you use the phrase ethnic cleansing to describe Trump's immigration policy, you've established that you're probably the kind of person who will start spitting perfectly good words at me in the style of completely meaningless and intentionally irritating buzzwords and I am much less inclined to listen to you.
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Lycus posted:I guess the religious right really liked that "tithing" answer. Can someone explain carson's tithing plan to me?
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Dahn posted:Trump has been a public figure for decades. There are thousands of professional dirt locators scrubbing everything he has every said looking for dirt. He is rich as gently caress, so he doesn't have to be politically correct. If he was racist we would already be hearing about it. Donald Trump posted:Laziness is a trait of the blacks
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Montasque posted:The Leader of FREE REPUBLIC Jim Rob himself, just shat this out: And when Trump inevitably does not win the nomination and runs third party because his ring didn't get kissed sloppily enough...?
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AssassinPrincess posted:Can someone explain carson's tithing plan to me? Flat income tax at 10% for all income levels
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Alter Ego posted:And when Trump inevitably does not win the nomination and runs third party because his ring didn't get kissed sloppily enough...? Most of them will tuck their tail between their legs and vote for Bush, and then spend 2016-2020 crying about RINO losers after he loses.
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Brannock posted:Canada's economy is on the brink of collapsing and the jobs here are much better It's a tough call.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Flat income tax at 10% for all income levels ugh.
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