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Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
You don't get templates there, at least the Icestorm one was the wrong size (apparently because the normal circilar temple can fit on their buildings and allow AD3-5 to land there.

Micro Art Studio do decent but expensive ones, you may also try one of the billion companies lasercutting tokens - Warsenal, Customeeple are the other official partners, but there are many more. Just check the circular - get one with 10 direction, there are some with 8 directions and those are for the previous editions.

As for cubes(?), do you mean the paper containers/terrain? They're sold separately as well,but if you have access to a laser cutter there are many free/good patterns you can use for HDF buildings.

Pierzak fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Aug 15, 2015

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Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Holy moly, the Sphinx is a small model.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

Pierzak posted:


As for cubes(?), do you mean the paper containers/terrain? They're sold separately as well,but if you have access to a laser cutter there are many free/good patterns you can use for HDF buildings.

No, that was a phone typo for counters/markers

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Same answer then buddy, you can get them from a few different retailers (Firestorm Games!) but the manufacturers are MAS or Customeeple. If you're in the UK, Wargaming Trader does a pick and mix style so you can get the ones you want. :)

Bear Throne
Apr 9, 2014

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Is there any decent place to get templates and cubed outside of operation icestorm or the US Ariadna box?

You can download and print templates and counters from here: http://www.infinitythegame.com/archive.php

or you can buy them as others have stated

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
I prefer printing the official ones on adhesive paper, sticking matte transparent foil (yes that is a thing) on top for protection/better look, and gluing the entire thing onto spare bases.

BTW, someone know the current scores of the Interplanetary? Can't find any :wtc:

Flipswitch posted:

Holy moly, the Sphinx is a small model.
Adorable though :3:

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Pierzak posted:

I prefer printing the official ones on adhesive paper, sticking matte transparent foil (yes that is a thing) on top for protection/better look, and gluing the entire thing onto spare bases.

BTW, someone know the current scores of the Interplanetary? Can't find any :wtc:

Adorable though :3:
The scores haven't been posted yet IIRC, and yeah the Sphinx is cool, I hadn't realised he was that tiny, I'ma proxy my Anathematic as him a few times and see what's up, I think the Sphinx is a mega good TAG.

Also for tokens, one of the guys here prints them out and uses epoxy stickers on them to make little like oval tokens, they're really slick.

Mugaaz
Mar 1, 2008

WHY IS THERE ALWAYS SOME JUSTICE WARRIOR ON EVERY FORUM
:qq::qq::qq:
Brother and I bought Operation Ice Storm. I picked up the fusileer box as well. Been a while since I've played a mini game. Took me quite a while to remove flash and assemble, and my fusileer box is missing the male heads which was pretty disappointing. Trying to glue two spindly arms to the torso that meet in the middle to hold a big weapon was an exercise in torture. Just need to fill in some gaps with some green stuff and they should be ready for primer. Mini games are a lot of work!

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Mugaaz posted:

Trying to glue two spindly arms to the torso that meet in the middle to hold a big weapon was an exercise in torture.

Is not. Don't try to glue all 3 contact points at once, that's asking for failure. Instead, determine which arm goes first and which second, and glue the first one. New Infinity minis have square connectors so you'll hit the correct angle automatically. If you're not sure, attach the second arm dry to hold the first one in the exact correct position until the glue dries. Only then glue the second arm.

Alternatively, assemble a combi Gaylang and a Shrouded sniper. It won't help and is a major PITA, but at least you'll stop complaining about fusiliers :v:

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades
Pictures and info is starting to come out of the Interplanetary. Notable tidbits that I can't confirm, but sound legit since they accompanied by new pics of other stuff:

- Haqq is getting a Mechanized Deployment TAG in Acheron's Fall. Probably Khanate, but that's speculation.
- Xeodrons and Overdrons are mini- and regular-size Batroid TAGs.
- More Steel Phalanx characters coming (including Achilles v2 with ARM 6) and no Vedic stuff in the pipeline. Because Aleph totally needs more Greek characters.
- Pictures strongly suggest that Mobile Brigada are getting a hacker profile and a ML or HRL profile. Because Corregidor totally needs more flexibility.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


NOMADS ARENT GOOD ENOUGH


MORE CAMO INFILTRATORS FOR THEM AND ARIADNA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


E: Am curious if that is a new TAG for Haqq, or a rework Maggie.

Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Aug 16, 2015

Carteret
Nov 10, 2012


So. I grabbed the Icestorm box, but I need help goons. Besides FFGs mini games this is the first mini game I've ever owned where you have to assemble them, and painting is expected. What is a good resource for a mini game noob for assembly and paint? Tools, etc

Thanks!

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Carteret posted:

So. I grabbed the Icestorm box, but I need help goons. Besides FFGs mini games this is the first mini game I've ever owned where you have to assemble them, and painting is expected. What is a good resource for a mini game noob for assembly and paint? Tools, etc

Thanks!
Welcome buddy! the SA Miniature Painting thread should have all the info you need to get started: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3705692

If you have any Infinity specific questions, feel free to post them here. :)

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


Carteret posted:

So. I grabbed the Icestorm box, but I need help goons. Besides FFGs mini games this is the first mini game I've ever owned where you have to assemble them, and painting is expected. What is a good resource for a mini game noob for assembly and paint? Tools, etc

Thanks!

one of us one of us

Mugaaz
Mar 1, 2008

WHY IS THERE ALWAYS SOME JUSTICE WARRIOR ON EVERY FORUM
:qq::qq::qq:

Pierzak posted:

Is not. Don't try to glue all 3 contact points at once, that's asking for failure. Instead, determine which arm goes first and which second, and glue the first one. New Infinity minis have square connectors so you'll hit the correct angle automatically. If you're not sure, attach the second arm dry to hold the first one in the exact correct position until the glue dries. Only then glue the second arm.

Alternatively, assemble a combi Gaylang and a Shrouded sniper. It won't help and is a major PITA, but at least you'll stop complaining about fusiliers :v:

I tried this first, but all that ended up happening is the stuff didnt align in the middle and I had to reglue it. The square pegs didnt really seem to work for some of the small arm, worked well for everything else.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Mugaaz posted:

I tried this first, but all that ended up happening is the stuff didnt align in the middle and I had to reglue it. The square pegs didnt really seem to work for some of the small arm, worked well for everything else.

That's why I suggested dry-fitting the second arm as you glue the first. Same accuracy, less chance of gluing everything that's not needed.

ThreeLefts
Dec 27, 2012

I do like the idea of perhaps giving Maggie Mechanized Deployment, so you could deploy those Haqq Mechanized troops with her; represent the braces it used to have.

Corbeau posted:

- Haqq is getting a Mechanized Deployment TAG in Acheron's Fall. Probably Khanate, but that's speculation.

Exmond
May 31, 2007

Writing is fun!

Pierzak posted:

You don't get templates there, at least the Icestorm one was the wrong size (apparently because the normal circilar temple can fit on their buildings and allow AD3-5 to land there.

Micro Art Studio do decent but expensive ones, you may also try one of the billion companies lasercutting tokens - Warsenal, Customeeple are the other official partners, but there are many more. Just check the circular - get one with 10 direction, there are some with 8 directions and those are for the previous editions.

As for cubes(?), do you mean the paper containers/terrain? They're sold separately as well,but if you have access to a laser cutter there are many free/good patterns you can use for HDF buildings.

I thought AD 3-5 was lay down template, the template can't be touching any terrain (Which I thought buildings counted as)

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013

Corbeau posted:

- Pictures strongly suggest that Mobile Brigada are getting a hacker profile and a ML or HRL profile. Because Corregidor totally needs more flexibility.


:awesome:

Zeus, hear me! I will sacrifice a white bull on your altar if this comes to pass!

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013

Exmond posted:

I thought AD 3-5 was lay down template, the template can't be touching any terrain (Which I thought buildings counted as)

Most people I have ever played with interpret it as 'any flat area'. Which I agree with strongly, because orbital drops are cool and dropping onto a roof and then spraying bullets everywhere is even better.

Carteret
Nov 10, 2012


Deviant posted:

one of us one of us
:argh:


It's your loving fault. I've had this thread bookmarked for months and looking at all the cool poo poo waiting around for you at GenCon got my interest piqued. Now here I am with a big rear end box of minis seriously reconsidering the madness I've gotten myself into.

Cyberpunkey Monkey
Jun 23, 2003

by Nyc_Tattoo
It's like 3 dimensional puzzles and then a 3 dimensional coloring book and then you take your pretty dollies to play dice and dolly wargames.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


space barbies are cool as heck man

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Huh, apparently the Polish meta is hardcore.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Pierzak posted:

Huh, apparently the Polish meta is hardcore.
yea poland is good at wargames so I dunno what your excuse is :nyd:

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
My excuse is that I'm a lazy bum with perpetually unpainted piles of lead.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


I'll let you off because I cannot criticize someone for that.

Also looking over this new stuff, kinda surprised the Xeodron is going to be S6, looks wise I thought he'd be a sort of Skirmishing REM, like a Zero or K9 style of REM.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Wait, Xeodron? The smaller one? Not the Overdron?

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Yeah, this chap:

The Xeodron is S6, the Overdron (or whatever his name is) is S7, that's the noises coming from CB on it.

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013
That's odd given its shown with a combi rifle weapon option - you'd expect something a bit heavier.

Really I'm just very excited for the possibility of a hacker option Mobile Brigada. Specialists are pretty much necessary for running a link in objective games.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


To be fair though, the Gecko are armed with Combi Rifles as well so it isn't completely new. Although for an Alien TAG you'd expect something a bit bigger but I am curious on what the Red Fury is.

I agree on the second bit as well, specialist HI will go a long way into making HI fireteams worth considering.

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid
A really, really hot flame thrower?

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades

Flipswitch posted:

To be fair though, the Gecko are armed with Combi Rifles as well so it isn't completely new. Although for an Alien TAG you'd expect something a bit bigger but I am curious on what the Red Fury is.

I agree on the second bit as well, specialist HI will go a long way into making HI fireteams worth considering.

I'd assume dual combis or a red fury will be the two weapon loadouts, much like the Geckos.

As for the Red Fury's stats... pure speculation, but I can't help but want either a B4 plasma weapon or a lower B plasma weapon with a +6 range band (like a shotgun).

Weissritter
Jun 14, 2012

Can anyone do a rundown on the PanO TAGs? I have a cutter, but I would like to get another TAG (because I am a sucker for big robots/mechs).

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013
OK, there are the heavy ones with the TAG-only weapons like Multi HMGs: Jotum, ARM10, BTS9, svarlaheima; Dragao, HMC rather than multi hmg, Acontecimento, otherwise a fairly ordinary TAG; Cutter, Varuna, TO camo; and Squalo, Neoterra, which is a standard baseline heavy TAG but can take a HGL.

The lighter TAGs, with S6, lower armour and standard weapons are the tikbalang, acontecimento, considered a bit sub-par, and its special character variant, Toni Macayana, who is a better version, with climbing plus and I think mimetism, both HMG/HFT; Uhlans, Neoterra, camo and a feuerbach; and the Seraph, MO, with a spitfire and a HFT auxbot.

I don't think I'm forgetting any.

Weissritter
Jun 14, 2012

So the heavy ones are worth the points, while for the light ones, only Toni is worth it?

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013
Eh, they all have their uses I'm sure, standard Tikbalang is the only one I've seen people slate. (maybe because Acontecimento has access to the Guarda de Assalto at a lower price band and the Dragao at a higher) I'd say the heavy TAGs are more widely used but a lot of that is model availability - literally none of those lighter TAGs I listed has a model.

I've also heard that TAGs are more rarely used in ITS type missions, because they favour mass specialists and high order counts. They had a vogue a couple years ago when lieutenant was a specialist for mission objectives - que a heavy TAG Lt option running around the board ramboing and achieving objectives. I haven't played against TAGs too much and they can be quite scary. Unlike, say, 40k, you don't need special kit to take out a TAG, but obviously a Jotum in cover is immune to combi rifles and will shrug off standard HMG fire all day. So I try to write lists with potential anti-TAG options, but that is a broad range of hackers (I'd take them anyway), AP weapons (I'd take boarding shotguns and/or multi rifles anyway), adhesive or E/M or AP/EXP weapons like panzerfausts and MLs. One really good way to take out a TAG is also to jump them with a good CC unit. McMurrough will gently caress a TAG right up, and a lot of the cheap units will at least hold it in play very well.

Hipster Occultist
Aug 16, 2008

He's an ancient, obscure god. You probably haven't heard of him.


Beserking CC models are a TAG's worst nightmare.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Yeah TAGs can be absolutely hosed by some things and with the way I've seen some tables they're just asking to be destroyed, they really suffer from close terrain and some of the tables I've seen in clubs basically make them unplayable.

Weissritter posted:

Can anyone do a rundown on the PanO TAGs? I have a cutter, but I would like to get another TAG (because I am a sucker for big robots/mechs).

Weissritter posted:

So the heavy ones are worth the points, while for the light ones, only Toni is worth it?
Yeh, the heavies for PanO are pretty good across the board. I think the Cutter got shafted a bit in N3 and I don't really play the Cutter much anymore and the nerf didn't really help that, I can see why though because the Cutter is a massive NPE model, especially for newer players.

For the TAGs:

Tikbalang: Subpar, competes with multiple things for its points cost and output, namely Toni Macayana & The Swiss Guard for similar investment. Unfortunately Toni Macayana puts the nail in this TAGs coffin. It's not awful, it just exists in that weird space where there's no real reason to take it.

Toni: Arguably our best TAG, she's hyper mobile (6-4 with Climbing Plus and not called the Sphinx), has Mimetism, a HMG, a DTW (HFT) and AP Mines for 85pts is actually a really reasonable cost, especially with ARM6, BTS9 and BS15. She's an excellent TAG and always worth upgrading over a Tikbalang if you're going to field a TAG.

Seraph: The Seraphs gotten better in N3 but it sits in a really weird space in PanO. A TAG with an Auxbot gives it some really good plays when it comes to dictating AROs from enemy models and at ARM7 its still pretty durable whilst retaining the benefit of REM Presence. The fact its S6 is a nice bonus as it's a lot smaller than you'd expect from its profile. I think the upcoming sculpt might help changes peoples opinion on this thing, but it does feel a bit underpowered with just a Spitfire, HFT and EX CCW.

Uhlan: Decent TAG, it's underrated by a lot of people despite the fact it's BS15, ARM6/BTS6 Camo REM Pres TAG. It does compete directly with the Swiss for its points but features better mobility at 6-4 and S6 based movement, the downside is that it's a bigger investment in points, you lose the ability to disguise what it is (it's the only CH: Camo model in the faction and on a 40mm base) and do lose out on the benefit of TO Camo. Voted TAG most likely to not get a date at the prom because of her gangly knees.

Squalo: The only HGL TAG in the faction (back in my day the Jotum....*grumble*) which is really the only reason you'll take it. ARM8/BS15/BTS6/Advanced ECM makes it pretty durable but it's a heavy TAG so it should be. The other profiles aren't worth considering as the Squalo lost of its HFT and gained an AP Heavy Pistol, which isn't a complete nerf but losing the HFT stings, especially when you have to swing wildly between a HMG and a Pistol.

Dragao: Has a HRMC on a BS15 ARM7 Platform, kept the HFT. Good TAG(tm). Utterly devastates things from long range which is basically where you'll be keeping it the entire game, really good if you play on more Euro-style tables than the US ones but it's basically there to shoot things across the table for 94pts. HFT is nice in emergencies but DON'T charge this thing across to use the HFT like a muppet in my club does.

Jotum: Beast of a TAG and one of the top 3 in the faction, ARM10, BTS9 makes him an absolute poo poo head to budge when factored with REM Presence. The Multi HMG, HFT and DEP give him a nice variety of stuff to choose although my own experience I find the DEP gets fired and misses and then you never use it again. :shobon: Kind of cheeky for ARO splatters though against HI. The Jotum is really good about throwing its weight up the table as it can be a royal poo poo to actually kill, so you waltz it up, kill some mans, put it in Suppression Fire and cover it with Auxbots/Nisses and you'll have good times. Also costs 3 SWC to be an Lt for a very good reason.

Cutter: The bane of bad players and newbies, NPE incarnate right after the Avatar but probably before Achilles. Very reasonable for its points costs at 115pts but it pays out of the nose for having TO Camo because it literally only has a MHMG, I really think it should have gained a Heavy Pistol for losing its HFT. Probably the TAG I actually play the least because it basically has to wander around in the 16-32 range bracket Surprise Shotting people from TO Camo and that's all it does. It's really good at doing just that but I kinda think it got the dick for owning TO Camo when other things in the game didn't. The Cutter tends to hit those other things harder so it does trade off.

That's a quick "I've just woken up here's my thoughts and my experiences playing them" and I've probably missed something quite key that I'll remember in a few hours, but that's the generic rundown. TAGs exist in that awkward spot where they basically just kill mans as fast as possible for you to rush up and claim objectives but a lot of them are now long range fire support models for a lot of points.

They have that weird spot in ITS though and a lot of them are absolutely worth playing, you just need to be mindful of how to get the most out of a near (or over) 100pt model that isn't a specialist. I do think the Stingray TAGs need to get a quick review in N3 HS to re-evaluate what they're for. The fact they're PanO and their points goes into raw stats rather than special rules can be a double edged sword sometimes.

E: Playing a game vs USAriadna (or what they have at the mo) via proxy tonight and not gonna lie some of their stuff looks flat out broken.

2E: Built my K1 Combi Unidron because the Spitfire model is AWFUL. I think I'm just going to proxy them as each other and correct everyone when they tell me I'm wrong, what the gently caress is that Spitfire model doing??

Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Aug 17, 2015

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Weissritter
Jun 14, 2012

Thanks for the summary. Seraph is a nice name imo, though my impression of it matches yours.

Going to choose between Jotum and Dragao most likely, and something to proxy for Toni.

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