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bacon flaps posted:The conefire does not lie and your shot will dunk into the ground at the worst time every once in a while Armor Piercing Fin Stabilized Discarding Sabot Track Seeking ammunition 
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bacon flaps posted:The conefire does not lie and your shot will dunk into the ground at the worst time every once in a while EVERY GODDAMN TIME
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Aug 15, 2015 04:51
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Insert name here posted:"The tank takes up a good 85/90% of the circle, good enough" *shot careens straight into the ground* Sounds like World of Tanks all over again. Nothing like missing because your cone found the one pixel that wasn't the enemy tank to zip by so they can turn their turret and finish you with a snap shot.
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JuffoWup posted:Sounds like World of Tanks all over again. Nothing like missing because your cone found the one pixel that wasn't the enemy tank to zip by so they can turn their turret and finish you with a snap shot. Except somehow it's not as fun.
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Aug 15, 2015 16:36
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For new people to the game. I assume you've played World of Tanks. If so, you already know 90% of this game. First, forget about anything you know about tanks because the real-life tank will determine nothing about its properties in-game. The Ramka-99 (an enlarged T-72 hull with a huge boxy turret on top) is twice as hard to spot as the smaller T-72 it's derived from. The BMP-1, sporting economy optics from the 1960s USSR, has a view range substantially higher than the T-90 with top-shelf electronically enhanced optics from the 2000's. Forget all the news on the official site about realism and tanks driving like real tanks or whatever. Simply put, this game leans more to the arcade side of things than even WoT and tank performance is dictated by two major factors: Tier and Vehicle class. Penetration, Health Points, and damage scale based on tier. The exact same gun will deal about 10-15% additional damage and a near-identical vehicle hull will gain about 10-15% more health points for every tier it goes up. Vehicle class determines practically everything else. Which vehicle class will you enjoy the most? Well, there are four major classes: 1) AFVs. Example is the M2 Bradley and generally including most Anti-Tank Guided Missile carriers and Armored Personnel Carriers. AFVs are essentially a blend of WoT light and medium tank characteristics: -Utility bonuses in the form of better base cap speed and ability to mark targets (increases damage on the marked target) -Best view range -Best camouflage rating -Best mobility. Including acceleration, turning radius, little loss of momentum when turning, climbing sheer cliffs, etc. Think magical elf tanks ala T-50-2 in World of Tanks. -Best turret turn speed. -Best Anti-Tank Guided Missile (ATGM) options -Best potential Damage-Per-Minute -Medium accuracy on the move. -Medium speed. -Worst Penetration on primary gun -Worst armor 2) Light Tanks. Example is the Sheridan, these are essentially the ligher armored MBTs. Light tanks are WoT medium tanks. -Best speed -Best penetration on primary gun -Best accuracy on the move (expect to fire on the move without much issue) -Medium view range -Medium camouflage rating -Medium mobility -Medium turret turn speed -Medium armor -Middle-range ATGM options -Medium potential Damage-Per-Minute (realistically can be considered best DPM in many situations due to penetration!) 3) Main Battle Tanks. Example is the M1 Abrams. MBTs are WoT heavy tanks. -Best armor. (By far) -Medium penetration on primary gun -Worst view range -Worst camo rating -Worst mobility -Worst speed -Worst turret turn speed -Worst ATGM options -Worst potential Damage-Per-Minute -Worst accuracy on the move. (by far) 4) Artillery. It's WoT artillery but deals less damage per shot. The shots travel faster (easier to lead targets) and are a hell of a lot more accurate. -As in WoT it doesn't really fit into the system of advantages and disadvantages. They'll deal damage from the sky when you're out of cover if they decide you're worth shooting at. If you manage to get close enough to see/shoot it you can probably kill it. -It'll probably be used to spot hidden AFVs in the usual choke points with the new utility shells I guess. If you don't like a vehicle by around tier 4, I suggest trying another class because they'll more or less play the same until you hit top tier (at which point admittedly you don't have to deal with things like the MBT armor advantage being nullified by higher tier tanks rolling around). Warbadger fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Aug 15, 2015 |
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Aug 15, 2015 18:50
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To add to the above, because we're dealing with modern tanks, the only place you can expect a tank to bounce shots is an MBT's front. Everything's got weak sides/rear. Hitting an enemy with a shell that overpenetrates will do less damage I think? So fire APFSDS at the front of things and HEAT at everything else.
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Aug 15, 2015 19:11
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Well, you an invite me to CHAI or ISLAM or whatever. IGN is Magni56. What TS server are we on? On another note: When spending your free xp past-reset, unlock each equipment part on a tank seperately instead of skipping the whole thing via the bar - investing xp into the bar gets you to the next tank but won't open any of the modules while investing in the modules also counts towards the entire bar equally. 
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Aug 16, 2015 00:47
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It's a god damned shame that all MBTs aren't like the Leopard 1
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Aug 16, 2015 03:26
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Magni posted:Well, you an invite me to CHAI or ISLAM or whatever. IGN is Magni56. What TS server are we on? We are using the same TS server in the WoWS and WoT thread.. you know which one I have seen you there.  Invite sent to Chai.
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bacon flaps posted:It's a god damned shame that all MBTs aren't like the Leopard 1 What, like a light tank? Those are a thing and they're great.
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Aug 16, 2015 16:29
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Hop I sent you the invite to CHAI.
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Aug 16, 2015 18:17
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I'm unsure if I got the invite to CHAI and am not seeing it or if I didn't get invited yet. I wish the Battalion button did more than prompt me to create a battalion.
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demonR6 posted:Hop I sent you the invite to CHAI. You might have to resend it, I was still in a previous battalion.
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hopterque posted:What, like a light tank? Well it doesn't have the insane/retarded perfect moving accuracy but it just doesn't feel as loving, I dunno, gamey as the other ones I've played. I understand they want to have "classes" within the game but I don't think MBTs should read out like this quote:3) Main Battle Tanks. Example is the M1 Abrams. MBTs are WoT heavy tanks. I don't want to get into this whole historical hoopla about how basically none of the other classes are honestly worth a poo poo IRL because 70 ton M1A2s can go 70km/h but I do think they've gone a bit overboard with making their distinctions.
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I think their invite system only works when you are logged in? gently caress if I know they don't say anything informative about it. I do however have you on friends list so maybe look for me when you are on? We might have to do this when we are online. They are worse at this than Wargaming it seems like.
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Aug 16, 2015 20:33
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How does one redeem their founders pack?
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bacon flaps posted:Well it doesn't have the insane/retarded perfect moving accuracy but it just doesn't feel as loving, I dunno, gamey as the other ones I've played. I understand they want to have "classes" within the game but I don't think MBTs should read out like this That is pretty much my biggest gripe with the direction they took atm.
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cheese posted:How does one redeem their founders pack? Automatically. It doesn't apply to this Early Access phase, though. Except for the tank commander, that one you get already.
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Aug 17, 2015 04:13
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They let us have the Founders tanks the last couple of days in EA3. Hilarity ensued when we were driving around in mini-Ramka's shooting people in the face laughing at them. The Expeditionary tank with the robotic telephone pole gun was kind of fun too.
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What is it with people dragging Artillery vehicles into PvE games and demanding to get a dedicated escort set aside for them? Do they think they are so super effective that they can make up for the loss of two frontline units? Which is 2/5 of a PvE squad. Because from what I saw so far, at least the PvE playing artillery players are far from even catching up to a single MBT or IFV player in terms of damage output but are the ones demanding the most support from their teammates.
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Well, I'm still coming to the conclusion that the largest (PvP) problems are coming from tiering. It seems like the optimal tier spread for the matchmaker is still about 3 tiers, with larger spreads when it can't find enough people. Stat-wise the bottom tier vehicles are (as previously noted) at around a 25% HP and 25% DPM disadvantage, effectively a 50% stat difference built in between the top and bottom tier tanks in a match. The tanks with a bigger number next to them in a match have more HP and are throwing out a big chunk more damage without having to sacrifice anything for it, creating a built in system of enforced imbalance within a multi-tiered match (see: every match until tier 10). The second thing I've noticed is due to penetration and armor scaling up quickly as tiers increase. This creates a problem most easily felt in MBTs, but impacting just about everything. Up against tanks from its own tier the MBT can bounce shots of the front armor (and only the front armor) somewhat reliably - he's still vulnerable to the better ATGMs and light tanks unless positioned/angled right. The problem comes in when you throw the MBT in with other tiers. If he's at the top tier in the match, the bottom tier tanks can't touch him from the front at all and even the comparatively weak points may be impervious to the point that he can faceroll anything under his tier that can't flank him, particularly given the bigass stat advantage he has behind that armor. This is also a factor with light tanks who are sometimes pretty drat bouncy against things under their tier. If he's bottom tier in the match, however, the problem is reversed with top tier tanks who can punch right through his frontal armor easily and the MBT effectively becomes a slow, blind light tank who can't fire on the move. Of course they could just limit tanks to only see other tanks of their tier via matchmaking - but that would essentially mean you see no variety whatsoever with only like 6 types of tanks available in any given tier. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Aug 31, 2015 |
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EA 5 is on. No reset. Go to your older tanks and use your unspent xp to unlock extra credit bonuses and poo poo. Also, PVE rewards got boosted, a good medium-difficulty round in a Tier 5 can now get you easily 1k+ xp. Tree's got rejiggered a bit again and some new vehicles are in to fill gaps, like the BMP-1P now sitting between BMP-1 and BMP-2 or the Leopard 1A5 sitting between OF-40 and Leopard 2AV. Also, T9 and T10 MBTs (Leo 2A6, Leo 2A7+, T-90MS and T-14 Armata) are visible in the tree, but not yet unlockable even if you had poopsocked that hard/are running a press account.
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Is the match maker still letting poop sockers run around with a 3+ tier advantage?
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Crash74 posted:Is the match maker still letting poop sockers run around with a 3+ tier advantage? Yes. It's not really an issue with poop sockers, realistically they need to have the MM allow multiple tiers in the same game to avoid splitting the playerbase too much so you'll run into that problem as early as tier 2-3. The guys stomping you will be in the relatively easy to get T5 or T6. Meanwhile they'll be getting stomped on by the T8 dudes they end up matched against in the other half of games. It's an issue of the MM allowing a tier spread in a game where tier is directly tied to your combat stats. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Sep 5, 2015 |
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Sep 5, 2015 05:00
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Are they planning to wipe the progress from these EA/beta sessions?
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There will be a wipe before the 'open beta' hits and, iirc, this is the last EA phase before open beta. The OB itself is pretty much a soft launch with all the pre-purchase packets unlocking and no more wipes after that.
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Cool, I was wondering why the stuff I bought wasn't applying. also I feel like this game is going to be good and less mishandled because wargaming isn't in charge of it
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Is the $70 pack worth getting? I quit WoT but I'm thinking of jumping back into hating myself with Armored Warfare
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Magres posted:Is the $70 pack worth getting? I quit WoT but I'm thinking of jumping back into hating myself with Armored Warfare I like this game a lot more than WoT and the pack gives some very good tanks, so if you want to jump straight into the deep end then it's certainly the best way to do that
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Honestly if it's basically WoT but better, I'm in. Tanks always frustrated me because it was pretty close to being an excellent game, but was atrociously mishandled in some really critical ways. Like artillery, the spotting system, and TDs always felt like hot, liquid dogshit syrup on a sundae that would have been pretty good if the people making it could tell the difference between that and chocolate syrup, but inexplicably thought they were one and the same. So the real question is whether Obsidian can tell the difference between chocolate and poo That and how frustrating it is to lose at AW - I'm guessing it's probably the same because 15v15 is always going to have games that are maddeningly frustrating when you do something you thought would be a sick play but your pub who's been shooting at one place for five minutes straight suddenly decides not to right as you need them to continue to do so, but it's certainly possible to have losses in a team game not feel so awful. Magres fucked around with this message at 07:45 on Sep 7, 2015 |
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Sep 7, 2015 07:33
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It has an enjoyable PvE experience tagged on that recieves quiet a bit of attention from the Devs and is a nice way to vent some steam without getting gimped (too much) by your team, as you only got 5 human players in those mini-raids.
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Feindfeuer posted:It has an enjoyable PvE experience tagged on that recieves quiet a bit of attention from the Devs and is a nice way to vent some steam without getting gimped (too much) by your team, as you only got 5 human players in those mini-raids. Fuckin sold, a mode where you can just chill and shoot computer tanks without worrying too much about it sounds great.
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Is anyone else having difficulty registering/logging in to the armored warfare website? I've been trying to create an account but I've been getting a "wrong verification code" error every time. Once I managed to make it go through, but whenever I enter those credentials into the site I get "internal error. please try again later". All I want to do is give them money. Why are they trying to stop me?
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I'm already registered, so can't comment on that, but I just tried and I can log off and on without any problem.# e: Gold, Premium Time and the pre-purchase pack content will unlock today. It will be wiped and re-applied once the EA phase is over, but people can try out some of the premium vehicles 'for free' during this time, meaning if they got gold they can spend it now and get it back once open beta hits. Feindfeuer fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Sep 7, 2015 |
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Feindfeuer posted:I'm already registered, so can't comment on that, but I just tried and I can log off and on without any problem.# Being able to blow all my gold and try the premium tanks out to see which ones I actually want to buy when open beta hits sounds great. Also, first impressions of a few premium tanks: T92: It's like a Walker Bulldog but cooler. Abbot: Everything but the pinpoint accuracy is bad. Zhalo-S: Turret rotation speed is  , tank's got alright mobility and camo. I quite like it.MBT-70: Pretty good mobility, nigh-invulnerable from the front (edit: lower front plate isn't fantastic but it's easy enough to hide), huge fuckoff 152mm gun-launcher that fires AP, HEAT, and powerful ATGMs. Expeditionary Tank: Absurdly mobile, great rate of fire combined with so-so damage/shot means running out of ammo may be a very real problem if you carry hard. BMPT Terminator: Hull is made of reinforced gently caress-you and covered in explosive reactive armor, turret is weak but takes reduced damage. The autocannons eat tanks alive and the four shot ATGM salvo just sort of removes the enemy team. Ferrovanadium fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Sep 7, 2015 |
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gently caress, the Expeditionary and BMPT Terminator are exclusive to the $70 pack aren't they E: Nm says they'll be sold in a year, or at least not before a year out which might as well be the same thing.
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The Expeditionary Tank, while fun, is extremly fragile. It has effectivly no armor, with 12mm beeing the thickest part at the front. Even with the x1.5 modifier for armor quality that doesn't really offer any protection against anything; automatic cannons punch through it even at long range and HE shells will penetrate it for full damage even from the front; unless they hit the turret, which is unmanned and therefore takes reduced damage. The british Tier 6 premium light tank, the VFM 5, seens to perform a bit better for me. While it is 10km/h slower you rarely get to drive full speed anyway, and if you need speed the engine overdrive ability of the light tank makes it fast enough to get out of trouble. It also has a 10m lower sight range. But it carries the same gun and it has armor that makes it a lot harder to penetrate from the front with automatic weapons and that will heavily reduce HE shell damage from the front. Featuring up to 180mm turret armor and 150mm of hull, with a 0.9 modifier for using military grade aluminium. It also has access to smoke grenades and carries the same gun. The expeditionary tank still a fun tank, but it's not like you get locked out of having a great tier 6 premium light tank, just because you don't buy the big pre-order pack because there's also a fun alternative to it. Also there is a non-premium variant of the BMPT 'Terminator' at the end of Shishkins Fire Support Vehicle Tree, the BMOP Ramnka-99. So if it's just the vehicle you're after, you can still grab one for free. Feindfeuer fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Sep 8, 2015 |
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Sep 8, 2015 08:39
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So aiming and fireing on the move with 300 ms seems to be fixed with this test. Which is good as I have had to stick with the main battle tank lines as the faster tanks where unplayable
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Whats the craic with the early access on this game? Will current progress be wiped in future? Is there much of a gap between each testing period? If the progress is going to be wiped in future, is there currently any rough date as to when progress will remain permanently on your account?
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