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Ammat The Ankh posted:I wish Paradox Space was updating, with cool comics like that Felt one and the Sumerteen romance one, and not with the bad comics. I'd take the bad ones myself. Anything.
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WAR FOOT posted:omegapause day 4: troll genitalia and gender politics It's not like I'm drawing intricate illustrations of troll six-ways. Talking about gender and trolls isn't obscene. e: Who What Now posted:I tell my dude friends to calm their tits all the time, doesn't make them hermaphrodites. I mean, they do have tits, but because they are fat not because they also have vaginas. Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Aug 17, 2015 |
# ? Aug 17, 2015 00:47 |
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I've been skimming Homestuck updates intermittently over the past two years, not even reading anything, just skimming the pictures randomly and seeing if this is ever going to come to an ending. I think the Aranea badguy reveal was where I said 'ok, no, enough of this' and stopped actually trying to comprehend what was going on. Now I see this update about how 'by pagecount' there is 1% left and I don't see how it is possible that the story can be coming into a climax. Can someone briefly explain how the past two years (all of Act 6 Act 6) could possibly be coming to a satisfying close, or why anyone still cares about happens to the characters? Did it ever get proven that the big bad guy all along is actually supposed to be Vriska? (I know they brought her back again for some dumb reason)
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 00:49 |
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MrBims posted:I've been skimming Homestuck updates intermittently over the past two years, not even reading anything, just skimming the pictures randomly and seeing if this is ever going to come to an ending. I think the Aranea badguy reveal was where I said 'ok, no, enough of this' and stopped actually trying to comprehend what was going on. It's possible because animations of any length still only count as one page.
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 00:52 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:It's not like I'm drawing intricate illustrations of troll six-ways. Well, what's stopping you? MrBims posted:Can someone briefly explain lol, no
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 00:52 |
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Burkion posted:I'd take the bad ones myself. Anything.
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 00:52 |
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MrBims posted:Now I see this update about how 'by pagecount' there is 1% left and I don't see how it is possible that the story can be coming into a climax. Can someone briefly explain how the past two years (all of Act 6 Act 6) could possibly be coming to a satisfying close, or why anyone still cares about happens to the characters? Did it ever get proven that the big bad guy all along is actually supposed to be Vriska? (I know they brought her back again for some dumb reason) I think the thing appears to be winding up to a satisfactory close because you missed a hell of a lot of character development. It turns out Dave wasn't lying when he said he wasn't sad his brother died, that he was dead serious about not wanting to be a hero and fight the Big Bad. All of the kids and all of the surviving trolls have met up and have exchanged large amounts of character-related information. All of the characters have now grouped up for what they believe will be the boss fight. Old clues are being picked up on, expanded, and put behind us. And the jokes kept coming.
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 00:54 |
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MrBims posted:I've been skimming Homestuck updates intermittently over the past two years, not even reading anything, just skimming the pictures randomly and seeing if this is ever going to come to an ending. I think the Aranea badguy reveal was where I said 'ok, no, enough of this' and stopped actually trying to comprehend what was going on. Blackheart posted:lol, no Yeah theres a lot that went on, so if you really wanna know, theres going to be quite a few words. also clearly I still care, I'm still reading the drat thing and enjoying it, even at this point where it seems even the mighty Huss is tired and wants the nightmare to come to a close. (Why I care is because there's been a lot of good character development recently so...)
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 00:55 |
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Bell_ posted:I've never seen anyone looking forward to more KC Green-drawn SBaHJ comics as much as you. Let's be fair that's because *NO ONE* has ever looked forward to KC Green SBaHJ until this thread went sideways.
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 00:59 |
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Burkion posted:Let's be fair that's because *NO ONE* has ever looked forward to KC Green SBaHJ until this thread went sideways. I did but only because everyone always got so mad about them that it made my contrarianism flair up, especially since I never saw anything wrong with them, personally.
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 01:06 |
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MrBims posted:Now I see this update about how 'by pagecount' there is 1% left and I don't see how it is possible that the story can be coming into a climax. Can someone briefly explain how the past two years (all of Act 6 Act 6) could possibly be coming to a satisfying close, or why anyone still cares about happens to the characters? Did it ever get proven that the big bad guy all along is actually supposed to be Vriska? (I know they brought her back again for some dumb reason) Most of the character arcs are now resolved; they've realised who they all are and what they all want to be, with only one or two exceptions. All that's left is to resolve the events of the plot, largely in one big blowout battle.
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 01:10 |
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Burkion posted:Let's be fair that's because *NO ONE* has ever looked forward to KC Green SBaHJ until this thread went sideways. eheheh makiing fun of KC green2 2bahj i2 the be2t thiing two do.
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 01:11 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:What the gently caress, duderini? Why is it not okay to discuss gender politics in the thread when they are explicitly touched on in the comic? Whether you like it or not, Dave had a hell of a lot to say about gender preference and traditional masculinity. Why is the most clinical of references to trolls' possible hermaphroditism immediately met with "oh, deity save me, we're talking about body parts, give me my smelling salts?" The stuff you're getting mad about discussing is right there in the comic, repeatedly. It is relevant what the troll definition of gender is, because most trolls mate without reference to it, as per Hussie. It is relevant how humans define their gender preferences as interacting with troll gender definitions, because the humans do care and the trolls don't. calm down tiger
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 01:12 |
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Seems like trolls totally do have gender though since they pretty obviously identify themselves as one or the other and some even exclusively like one gender over the other. When John told Karkat he wasn't a homosexual Karkat wasn't confused at the not liking boys bit, but he was confused at them having a word for that specific permutation of preferences. Their stuff about gender seems to line up with the human gender ways pretty well, it's just the preferences and the connotations that come with are what boggles them. Troll society really seems to just be a "you are what you are and you like what you like" sorta deal.
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 02:54 |
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Here's one for the list of "Things that I am somewhat incredulous to actually be writing with my own hands but whatever": My pet theory is that trolls are like clownfish; they're all born male, but have the ability to change themselves into females at some point in development. This theory is supported by the fact that within troll culture, the dominant individuals, both in terms of the hemocastes and just general personality of the trolls we've seen, tend to be female (Feferi, Vriska, Kanaya, Terezi) and the submissive trolls we've seen are largely male (Karkat, Tavros, Eridan, and Equius, though he only recently admitted it to himself). As for breeding, well, whatever. 'Rails before Pails.
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 03:10 |
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Has anyone pointed out that the next act is Act 6-subact 6-part 6 and that 666 is the perfect time for the final boss to appear since it's the number of the beast (although some translations say it's 616, but that's not as cool)?
Space Cadet Omoly fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Aug 17, 2015 |
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Plom Bar posted:Here's one for the list of "Things that I am somewhat incredulous to actually be writing with my own hands but whatever": I'd argue that Kanaya isn't dominant nor is Eridan submissive. Eridan is a douchebag and a massive goober, but not really submissive. If he were he wouldn't have murdered half of his friends. Plus Gamzee is the highest non-seadweller and the most aggressive of all the trolls while Nepeta is very low on the spectrum and is completely incapable of doing anything proactively (except get herself killed).
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 03:31 |
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Plom Bar posted:Here's one for the list of "Things that I am somewhat incredulous to actually be writing with my own hands but whatever": I think Hussie has been pretty straight forward with how the Trolls work. They are a binary gendered species, with exceptions like humans and other animals and insects and the like. What is different is how they breed, which requires a secondary but linked species, the Mother Grub, to be able to actually produce their offspring. It needs genetic material from any two Trolls and then it can make babies. If Trolls can have sex, it isn't related to their ability to breed, and vice versa. This is why Troll sexuality is meaningless- yes in human context Kanaya is a lesbian and Karkat is bisexual, but those are meaningless because for us we started coming up with that because it was tied into 'sex that could result in babies and sex that couldn't. Trolls don't have that baggage and so they don't have those labels. Kanaya can have children with any Troll she wants, any gender, so long as they have a mother grub.
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 03:33 |
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Who What Now posted:I'd argue that Kanaya isn't dominant nor is Eridan submissive. Eridan is a douchebag and a massive goober, but not really submissive. If he were he wouldn't have murdered half of his friends. Plus Gamzee is the highest non-seadweller and the most aggressive of all the trolls while Nepeta is very low on the spectrum and is completely incapable of doing anything proactively (except get herself killed). This actually fits with the clownfish theory, because in every colony the second-in-command is male. Plus, while Eridan has no sense of boundaries, he's still a toady to the royalty and the whole reason he killed his friends was as an attempt to placate Jack Noir, whom he saw as a higher power.
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 03:37 |
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Yo have any of you guys that live on Tumblr seen any fanart featuring Gamzee alongside Clownpiece from the new Touhou game, Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom? I've been poking around, but no dice so far.
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 03:52 |
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WAR FOOT posted:waifu tiers: An ouroboros of gently caress
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 07:35 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:What the gently caress, duderini? Why is it not okay to discuss gender politics in the thread when they are explicitly touched on in the comic?. Cause you post like a complete tool.
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 07:38 |
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I liked it when everyone started getting murdered on the asteroid by the clown and other people. Most memorable part of this comic was when the grey guy calmed down the clown with pats and shooshes.
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 08:08 |
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WAR FOOT posted:waifu tiers: Canonically, our waifu is Nepeta. Hussie said so himself, and who are we to argue with him? Obviously though, he only said that so he could claim (Vriska) as his own exclusive waifu.
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 11:19 |
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The fans seem convined that the Omegapause won't be as long as the year-long Gigapause. I see their point - during that time, Hussie was supposedly involved in trying and failing to stop The Odd Gentlemen from stealing his money to work on the apparently-all-important-I-guess King's Quest license. But I'm still not convinced that it'll be shorter. Thoughts?
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 13:07 |
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I watched the first part of the Steam Train coverage of the new King's Quest, and I must grudgingly admit that it does look like a good and inspired game. Too bad that it was paid for with lies and betrayal
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 14:14 |
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SHISHKABOB posted:I liked it when everyone started getting murdered on the asteroid by the clown and other people. Most memorable part of this comic was when the grey guy calmed down the clown with pats and shooshes. Yea the grey guy from homestuck is one of the best characters.
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 17:03 |
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Blackheart posted:Yea the grey guy from homestuck is one of the best characters. I prefer the white kid
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 17:21 |
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Mazerunner posted:I prefer the white kid Let us not discount the appeal of the flighty broads.
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 19:34 |
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SHISHKABOB posted:I liked it when everyone started getting murdered on the asteroid by the clown and other people. Most memorable part of this comic was when the grey guy calmed down the clown with pats and shooshes. That never happened. John reconned it away. Space Cadet Omoly fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Aug 17, 2015 |
# ? Aug 17, 2015 20:04 |
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When was Lord English made out of glasses again?
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 20:07 |
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:That never happened. John retconned it away. Bogart posted:When was Lord English made out of glasses again? (1) Dirk makes ARquiussprite out of Equiussprite (happens both pre- and post-retcon) (2) In "Caliborn's Masterpiece", ARquiussprite + half of Gamzee + Caliborn = Lord English (3) However, in one of the last updates, ARQuiussprite merged with another sprite, making a strobing abomination unto God. This is incompatible with (2).
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 20:18 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Presumably Terezi now remembers it, though. Davepetasprite was already 2x prototyped by that point, so they didn't merge. That hug was just a hug.
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 20:26 |
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Also there are two AR sprites running around
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 20:28 |
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Burkion posted:Also there are two AR sprites running around Yeah, I think it will end up being pre retcon ARquius who will become part of Lord English. Especially with Davepeta's presence in the post retcon timeline.
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 20:31 |
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Boneless Jogger posted:Yeah, I think it will end up being pre retcon ARquius who will become part of Lord English. Especially with Davepeta's presence in the post retcon timeline. Well, presumably, too, because Gamzee is still whole in this timeline.
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 20:34 |
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Looks like no Paradox Space in the foreseeable future unless more people buy books. It's cool that they're looking to pay their creatives fairly, and understandable that they don't want the website to be a moneysink, but now I'm wondering where all those homestuck bux have been going (they've been going into the game).
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 20:35 |
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Classtoise posted:Well, presumably, too, because Gamzee is still whole in this timeline. How does Gamzee have any effect on which of the two existing ARquiusprite do or do not do a thing. (Davepeta as well, for that matter)
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 20:45 |
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Mazerunner posted:How does Gamzee have any effect on which of the two existing ARquiusprite do or do not do a thing. Because ARquiusprite and half of Gamzee became part of Lord English. THIS ARquiusprite is in a universe with no half-Gamzee, so presumably it's still "old universe" ARquiusprite and Gamzee.
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# ? Aug 17, 2015 20:57 |
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:That never happened. John reconned it away. It happened for me, and that's what truly matters.
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