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Just watched Nightcrawler and holy poo poo. I loved how the score was mostly upbeat and totally at odds with Jake Gyllenhaal's creepy successful psychopath character. The movie did a much better job than, say, Killing Them Softly at showing the dark side of life in the post-2008 American economy. I think Nightcrawler / Drive / Collateral would be a great modern day LA triple bill.
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD9bvAH1JgU For some reason "just make everything kinda green" is a common shortcut for low-budget digital filmmaking now.
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MeatwadIsGod posted:Just watched Nightcrawler and holy poo poo. I loved how the score was mostly upbeat and totally at odds with Jake Gyllenhaal's creepy successful psychopath character. The movie did a much better job than, say, Killing Them Softly at showing the dark side of life in the post-2008 American economy. the job interview scene is so great. feels eerily predictive of what most job interviews are gonna be like when the college bubble completely collapses.
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MeatwadIsGod posted:I think Nightcrawler / Drive / Collateral would be a great modern day LA triple bill. The ideal double-feature with Nightcrawler is Welcome to Me.
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K. Waste posted:The ideal double-feature with Nightcrawler is Welcome to Me. I would watch the poo poo out of that.
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K. Waste posted:The ideal double-feature with Nightcrawler is Welcome to Me.
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Another vote for Difficult People. If you like Broad City, you'll love it! (I already liked Billy Eichner and Julie Klausner, so I'm biased.)
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Man Nightcrawler is a really creepy inversion of the "new guy tries hard and succeeds against all odds" trope. The "getting better at this" montage was great, and the inspirational music when he was moving the body, like he was finally finding the strength to succeed. It's almost a sports movie. Raskolnikov2089 fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Aug 16, 2015 |
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Aug 16, 2015 22:40
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SubG posted:The King of Comedy (1982), actually. Nah, King of Comedy is just one of several films that it apes discretely in order to sell a cautionary tale of a social parasite with maximum simplicity. Welcome to Me actually takes Gilroy's initial provocation and expands upon it in a non-reductive way. Nightcrawler presents a scenario in which the startling corruption and incompetence of society allows a psychopath to flourish. Welcome to Me points this up as - in part - just a classist phobia. The 'crazy person' is actually just a barely-functional outcast who is only allowed to enter the social sphere when she suddenly attains "free money" from heaven, and her creative accomplishments aren't mired by her craziness.
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Simplification is just a natural part of making a comedy. King of Comedy is a better film than those other two.
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BTW, am streaming The Holy Jeanne, which is Carl Th. Dreyer's The Passion of Joan of Arc re-edited with music from Alejandro Jodowrosky movies, at 9 EDT. For the next hour I'm streaming cool tunes, building up to the feature: https://synchtu.be/r/BannedBizzaro
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K. Waste posted:Nah, King of Comedy is just one of several films that it apes discretely in order to sell a cautionary tale of a social parasite with maximum simplicity. I mean I could go on, but it's precisely the superficial similarities, which are all you comment on, that makes them such great loving bookends for the differences in mainstream American film between the two periods. That's great poo poo.
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That's a really good insight about the perceived ambiguity of the endings of those films. How could he get away with it? There is no "feed me a cat" moment that supports the more fantastic interpretations of Taxi Driver or King of Comedy or Nightcrawler. In fact, in Nightcrawler you have no reason to disbelieve he can slip out of any consequence with the law. After all, the guy's already a literal ambulance chaser. Wolf of Wall Street is even more pessimistic about it; you could embellish all you like and it would still be true. The world works just like Jordan Belfort says it does.
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To me Nightcrawler was mostly a movie looking at a toxic, awful, often evil industry and creating an over the top monster that would fit right in and thrive.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:That's a really good insight about the perceived ambiguity of the endings of those films. How could he get away with it? There is no "feed me a cat" moment that supports the more fantastic interpretations of Taxi Driver or King of Comedy or Nightcrawler. In fact, in Nightcrawler you have no reason to disbelieve he can slip out of any consequence with the law. After all, the guy's already a literal ambulance chaser. Wolf of Wall Street is even more pessimistic about it; you could embellish all you like and it would still be true. The world works just like Jordan Belfort says it does. Point of this all being that until roughly the end of the Regan years there was very much this implicit ethic in film that legitimacy, or whatever you want to call it, comes from paying your dues. It's worth pointing out that this wasn't universally true, even within the central canon of New Hollywood (poo poo is a lot more complicated in e.g. the films of Arthur Penn, who is arguably the father of New Hollywood). But in any case it was a prevailing and completely standard ethical structure in mainstream American drama until around the time we start seeing films like Wall Street (1987), with guys like Gordon Gekko who tells us, `I create nothing. I own. We make the rules, pal. The news, war, peace, famine, upheaval, the price per paper clip. We pick that rabbit out of the hat while everybody sits out there wondering how the hell we did it.' Now a character like Gekko clearly doesn't work the way the other characters I've just been talking about do. But I call it out for the sentiment, which is the important thing. By the time we were living in the dot com days, ethical narrative just wasn't built around the same notions of integrity, compromised or otherwise, that forms the backbone of Scorsese's films. I mean it's not like we don't still have stories built around the premise of nice guy works hard, makes good. But the idea that a not at all nice guy might make good by being a completely evil icepecker is completely familiar now too. It's a stock narrative. It's implicit in almost all of the antihero protagonists of recent prestige drama (both in film and in longform dramatic television), and in the first decade of the 21st Century's contribution to the horror film, so-called torture porn. Even more than in counterculture films of the mid to late '60s there's a deep and abiding distrust of the system, a belief that the rules have been twisted by psychopaths to their own purposes and so logic and justice are not something the average individual can reasonably expect.
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I haven't seen Nightcrawler yet, but from what everyone's said it seems like A Face in the Crowd might make a good double feature with it. You should watch A Face in the Crowd anyway though because it's amazing.
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I just watched a pretty decent end of the world movie called These Final Hours. It takes place on Perth after a meteor has hit North Atlantic and there's 12 hours left before the firestorm hits Australia or whatever. They don't get much into the details and instead focus on this one particular character. Since I pretty much didn't recognize anyone involved it was easy to get wrapped up in the plot. A good way to spend 90 minutes if you like that genre.
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BIG CITY LAWYER posted:I just watched a pretty decent end of the world movie called These Final Hours. I watched this last week and also enjoyed it. I watched "Plus 1" on Saturday, it was not bad. Kind of had a "Detention" vibe to it, but did not do as well wrapping itself up. I think it can be enjoyed by a wider audience than Detention too. Took itself more seriously. Might make a good double feature, but I'd watch +1, then Detention.
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I'm looking for a comedy akin to hot rod or its always sunny. Is there anything similar to this on Netflix?
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Gerdalti posted:I watched this last week and also enjoyed it. +1 is more like a sci-fi Can't Hardly Wait.
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Gerdalti posted:I watched this last week and also enjoyed it. I haven't watched it yet, but one of the actors in +1 is TFF goon FizFashizzle.
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Chichevache posted:I haven't watched it yet, but one of the actors in +1 is TFF goon FizFashizzle. Dude, it's prom
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Magnus Gallant posted:I'm looking for a comedy akin to hot rod or its always sunny. Is there anything similar to this on Netflix? Edit: Before you ask, you don't really need to know anything about football, fantasy or otherwise, to enjoy The League. You'll miss some jokes, but by the 4th season, the league itself is barely mentioned. dreadnought fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Aug 17, 2015 |
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Magnus Gallant posted:I'm looking for a comedy akin to hot rod or its always sunny. Is there anything similar to this on Netflix? Top Secret!, Wet Hot American Summer, They Came Together, The Naked Gun, Tommy Boy, Detention, Team America
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dreadnought posted:I don't really think those two things have anything in common other than being comedies, but The League is really similar to Sunny. It's less absurdist but still really fits into the whole post-Seinfeld terrible-people-doing-terrible-things canon. I've already seen all of the league. I loved it though so that was a good recc Franchescanado posted:Top Secret!, Wet Hot American Summer, They Came Together, The Naked Gun, Tommy Boy, Detention, Team America Seen them all except top secret. I liked them all so these are more good reccs
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Top Secret! is arguably the best one I mentioned. Enjoy!
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I watched Confessions of a Dangerous Mind last week. Basically it's as if the cast of Ocean's Eleven decided to film the biography of a 70's game show icon who claimed to have been a CIA-trained assassin. That's really all you need to know about whether you'll like this or not. I liked it.
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BIG CITY LAWYER posted:I just watched a pretty decent end of the world movie called These Final Hours. This was great - thanks for the rec
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Top Secret! is great, it's from the era of comedy films where they just flung everything at the screen so even if a joke doesn't quite land guess what there's five more coming in the next minute.
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Lord of War just got added to Netflix. If you want to see a great, underrated little movie featuring Nicholas Cage as an international arms dealer, check it out. Just a bitingly cynical protest movie of the kind you don't see very often anymore. Passionate to the point of occasional clumsiness, but at least it's passionate.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Lord of War just got added to Netflix. If you want to see a great, underrated little movie featuring Nicholas Cage as an international arms dealer, check it out. Just a bitingly cynical protest movie of the kind you don't see very often anymore. Passionate to the point of occasional clumsiness, but at least it's passionate. Oh cool, I had been meaning to catch this sometime soon, glad to know that it's up.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Lord of War just got added to Netflix. If you want to see a great, underrated little movie featuring Nicholas Cage as an international arms dealer, check it out. Just a bitingly cynical protest movie of the kind you don't see very often anymore. Passionate to the point of occasional clumsiness, but at least it's passionate.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:The opening of this movie remains one of the coolest openings of any movie I have ever seen. Speaking of cool openings, I watched Once Upon a Time in the West last night (on Netflix) and was just blown away by the opening scene.
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fishtobaskets posted:Speaking of cool openings, I watched Once Upon a Time in the West last night (on Netflix) and was just blown away by the opening scene. Yea if someone asked me "whats the deal with this Leone guy I keep hearing about?", that's the scene I'd show them, even moreso than the climax of The Good the Bad and the Ugly. Everything Leone was about as a filmmaker is encapsulated in those few minutes.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Lord of War just got added to Netflix. If you want to see a great, underrated little movie featuring Nicholas Cage as an international arms dealer, check it out. Just a bitingly cynical protest movie of the kind you don't see very often anymore. Passionate to the point of occasional clumsiness, but at least it's passionate. This was great. Watch it to see that Nic Cage can still act if he wants to.
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Adaptation. is probably my favorite movie and no one wants to watch it once they find out Nic Cage plays twins. People are on board with Spike Jonze, Charlie Kaufman, Chris Cooper and Meryl Streep, but once they hear that it's in a Cage, they always say no.
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Franchescanado posted:Adaptation. is probably my favorite movie and no one wants to watch it once they find out Nic Cage plays twins. People are on board with Spike Jonze, Charlie Kaufman, Chris Cooper and Meryl Streep, but once they hear that it's in a Cage, they always say no. Get better friends.
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I think that people forget he was an insane wild man when he first started. Basically he is now known for his acting in hundreds of lovely films that he did just for the money. It's kind of a bummer that he is a punchline now when he can still do some interesting acting.
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Loki_XLII posted:Get better friends. GET OFF OF THE FORUMS, DAD.
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