Wiggles Von Huggins posted:I think that people forget he was an insane wild man when he first started. Basically he is now known for his acting in hundreds of lovely films that he did just for the money. It's kind of a bummer that he is a punchline now when he can still do some interesting acting. I just chalked it up to bad agent or him just needing the money. Christopher Walken played in a lot of lovely movies too. I loved Cage in some things though like 8mm where I thought he and Joaquin Phoenix were really underrated. Or Bringin out the Dead for that matter.
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8MM is still a pretty good if extremely 90's movie.
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Aug 18, 2015 23:36
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That Works posted:I just chalked it up to bad agent or him just needing the money. Christopher Walken played in a lot of lovely movies too. There was period where Christopher Walken literally never turned down a role. If you had a script and a handful of cash you could get Christopher Walken sight unseen. That's one road to becoming iconic, I suppose, just show up in everything until people can't help but know who you are. Nicholas Cage just has severe money problems.
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Aug 18, 2015 23:39
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The above posts are true and I love me some Nic Cage (Raising Arizona and ConAir are masterpieces!). However, I have never seen Leaving Las Vegas and I am ashamed to admit it given the high praise I often hear associated with it. Should I correct that?
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Aug 18, 2015 23:40
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pahuyuth posted:The above posts are true and I love me some Nic Cage (Raising Arizona and ConAir are masterpieces!). However, I have never seen Leaving Las Vegas and I am ashamed to admit it given the high praise I often hear associated with it. Should I correct that? You could ask that question in a hundred different threads at a hundred different forums and the answer will always be the same.
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Aug 18, 2015 23:49
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pahuyuth posted:The above posts are true and I love me some Nic Cage (Raising Arizona and ConAir are masterpieces!). However, I have never seen Leaving Las Vegas and I am ashamed to admit it given the high praise I often hear associated with it. Should I correct that? No you should not watch one of Nicolas cages best performances.
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Aug 19, 2015 00:03
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I like Nic Cage and I did not think Leaving Las Vegas was good at all. Cage is good, I should say, but the movie is not.
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Aug 19, 2015 00:04
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I think Cage mostly sucks and is bad and stupid, but I would put Leaving Las Vegas firmly in the "must watch" category. He's got a handful of truly good performances IMO, and I'd say it qualifies as his best.
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Aug 19, 2015 00:05
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Okay. I will watch it tonight. I've just been lazy about it. But yeah Lord of War is aces.
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Aug 19, 2015 00:08
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Zesty Mordant posted:I like Nic Cage and I did not think Leaving Las Vegas was good at all. Cage is good, I should say, but the movie is not. I hated the movie, but Cage is absolutely fantastic.
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Aug 19, 2015 00:39
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Wiggles Von Huggins posted:This was great. Watch it to see that Nic Cage can still act if he wants to. Watching Outcast right now where he does his best to prove you wrong.
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Aug 19, 2015 01:13
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It's so weird to me that the "Nic Cage is SO WACKY you guys  " meme didn't really happen until after his career went into freefall and most of his roles were sleepwalking through low-budget thrillers.
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Aug 19, 2015 01:19
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Wild At Heart is also fantastic. It's like David Lynch watched Raising Arizona, and said "I can do that", and then set the world on fire with nightmare fuel.
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Franchescanado posted:Wild At Heart is also fantastic. It's like David Lynch watched Raising Arizona, and said "I can do that", and then set the world on fire with nightmare fuel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFIJ0vGBcXU
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Aug 19, 2015 02:17
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Another underrated Nic Cage film is The Weather Man.
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Vampire's Kiss, Drive Angry(I really don't know if it's underrated but Cage and Fichtner are fantastic in it), Con Air (repeating this because it's Con Air)
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girth brooks part 2 posted:There was period where Christopher Walken literally never turned down a role. If you had a script and a handful of cash you could get Christopher Walken sight unseen. That's one road to becoming iconic, I suppose, just show up in everything until people can't help but know who you are. Why can't more actors turn out like Vincent Price when they try that?
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:8MM is still a pretty good if extremely 90's movie. I have fond memories of it being really great, but I saw it when it came out and I was probably 17. I like to just remember it as a good movie, because I feel like I would pick it apart if I watched it now.
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Aug 19, 2015 03:20
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The 90s remake of Hardcore could've turned out way worse. It's almost unprepossessing. It's not nearly as brash as The Usual Suspects or LA Confidential, nor is it as sleazy as Jade or Sliver.
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Aug 19, 2015 03:26
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Vampire's Kiss, Drive Angry(I really don't know if it's underrated but Cage and Fichtner are fantastic in it), Con Air (repeating this because it's Con Air) Drive Angry is apparently the reconstituted remains of the dead Preacher film that Nicholas Cage refused to let die. If you squint and cock your head a little you can actually kind of see it. It's a spectacle if nothing else so it's worth a watch for that.
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fishtobaskets posted:Speaking of cool openings, I watched Once Upon a Time in the West last night (on Netflix) and was just blown away by the opening scene. If you like the opening of Once Upon a Time In The West DEFIANTLY watch Preist there's a lot of images that mirror scenes from it. Plus it's just a great movie overall, I think.
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I saw Drive Angry on blu ray 3D -- someone told me I HAD to see in 3D the scene where he gets in a gunfight while mid coitus with a prostitute.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xERcz18DZH8 This is the scene that I use to sell friends on Drive Angry. Other examples include the hammer flashback in Freaked and Jekyll doing the giant mountain of cocaine and turning into an air-humping Mr. Hyde in Jekyll and Hyde... Together Again.
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Cocoa Ninja posted:I saw Drive Angry on blu ray 3D -- someone told me I HAD to see in 3D the scene where he gets in a gunfight while mid coitus with a prostitute. best scene.
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Aug 19, 2015 04:05
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If you like "people being assholes" comedy along the lines of Always Sunny, Hulu has You're the Worst which is a very, very funny show. Not as good as, like, Broad City but pretty close.
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Jack Gladney posted:Why can't more actors turn out like Vincent Price when they try that? Why is this more of a thing with British actors? There's probably a Just-So story sort of explanation in there somewhere involving the popularity of Method acting on either side of the Atlantic, but gently caress if I can be assed to go in after it.
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Cocoa Ninja posted:I saw Drive Angry on blu ray 3D -- someone told me I HAD to see in 3D the scene where he gets in a gunfight while mid coitus with a prostitute. That scene was stolen more or less directly from Shoot 'Em Up.
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BIG CITY LAWYER posted:I just watched a pretty decent end of the world movie called These Final Hours. I saw this recently too and really enjoyed it. End of the world movies really aren't my thing normally, but staying with the one particular character and the craziness that was happening that day in his life, and the lives of all the people he encountered really sucked me in. It probably didn't help that I had a child a month ago, but the whole family killing themselves with out her, and then her saying that she would watch as he drove away really pulled on the heart strings.
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There's a film coming out at some point with Nic Cage and Elijah Wood that I worked on as the Steadicam operator. It should...interesting. Dark comedy kind of thing. It was fun to watch the two bounce off each other. Watching Nic really become CAAAAGE in person is insane. Dude is fascinating to be around. I doubt this will be any sort of resurrection film for him, but it'll be worth a watch after a few beers. Wood is the nicest human being I've ever met.
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If we're talking Nic Cage and not streaming things, can I recommend Matchstick Men. I liked it because its Ridley Scott, Nic Cage and Alison Lohman. EDIT : Oh and Sam Rockwell, how could I forget...
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origami posted:Leaving Las Vegas is really depressing
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origami posted:Leaving Las Vegas is really depressing You may want to do yourself a favor and never read up on the author then. Leaving Las Vegas is basically an extremely long suicide note and he shot himself soon after he found out they were making it into a movie. I think he attempted to act out the events of the novel at some point as well.
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girth brooks part 2 posted:There was period where Christopher Walken literally never turned down a role. If you had a script and a handful of cash you could get Christopher Walken sight unseen. That's one road to becoming iconic, I suppose, just show up in everything until people can't help but know who you are. I actually read an interview with Anthony Hopkins once where he was asked how it came about that he starred in a bunch of different movies, including Bad Company and Legends of the Fall. The interviewer seemed disappointed that Anthony's response was that the story is the same for a lot of them: His agent gave him a script, he read the script and thought it sounded terrible, but he had the extra three months so he accepted the offer.
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kuddles posted:It's actually a kind of mindset for certain actors depending on where they learned the craft that the important thing is to always keep working, whether you like the role you are in or not, because you never know when people are going to stop offering you opportunities. When you take that in, it actually explains why a lot of actors from a certain era, especially character actors, but even people like like De Niro or Pacino keep showing up for stuff that seems below them. Yeah, I seem to remember a major reason why Gary Oldman was in the Harry Potter movies was that no one would offer any other major roles for like 3 years.
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computer parts posted:Yeah, I seem to remember a major reason why Gary Oldman was in the Harry Potter movies was that no one would offer any other major roles for like 3 years. That seems odd. The first two movies, while not great, were HUGELY successful, the books were already incredibly popular and hitting their peak, and the role he was being offered was pretty crucial in the series as a whole, and the movie he was being offered was directed by Alfonso Cuaron, who just became famous for Y Tu Mama Tambien. Why would he balk at that offer? Who would?
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Yea I've heard some big name actor say almost that exact thing, I just can't remember who it was. The general sentiment was that as an actor you shouldn't take work for granted, and just because you may have a lot of money at the moment isn't a reason to turn down opportunities. I think it may have been a woman who said it because for women its even easier to understand that way of thinking. As an actress, even if you're massively successful and make millions of dollars, that's somewhat offset by the fact that your career could easily stop dead in its tracks at age 35. The overall quality of a project shouldn't be on any single actors shoulders anyway. I see nothing wrong with a professional actor taking a part in something they personally expect to be bad, as long as they continue to give their all. Anthony Hopkins gives an excellent performance, as he always does, in The Rite, which in pretty much every other way is a terrible film. Everyone can see that his performance is good, just because its in a poo poo movie doesn't mean anyone thinks less of Hopkins as an actor.
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Well, Anthony Hopkins also regrets being in The Elephant Man, so the dude's weird about what roles he takes in my opinion.
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Franchescanado posted:That seems odd. The first two movies, while not great, were HUGELY successful, the books were already incredibly popular and hitting their peak, and the role he was being offered was pretty crucial in the series as a whole, and the movie he was being offered was directed by Alfonso Cuaron, who just became famous for Y Tu Mama Tambien. Why would he balk at that offer? Who would? It's more that he didn't have anything for a long time and then suddenly Harry Potter.
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