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Shadow225 posted:What's the word on Shadowrun: Crossfire, Nefarious, Heroes Wanted, Biblios, and Samurai? I have played two of the games. Shadowun is an intense co op game, with little room for error. It gets a lot easier once you reach the first level up. I was hoping for it to be like Pathfinder, but good. It turned out it was nothing like Pathfinder, but good. Biblios is a neat little filler with a nice auction system.
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Heroes WantedRumda posted:I played it a few months ago and no its not good. Every turn is like when in mage knight you draw no moves and your stuck with only the basic cards in your hand best case scenario you get a single predetermined card in your deck but still you'll accomplish nothing. I've literally had a better and more engaging experience playing Ascension and Thunderstone so that in its self should tell you how bad it is.
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Jedit posted:You need Sylla. It's literally the same core idea stripped down to a 90-minute drafting and balancing game. Thanks, that looks promising. Archenteron posted:The people pining for Republic of Rome should go check out Galactic Destiny. It's not the greatest, but it scratches that Senatorial politics-deals-and-backstabbing itch fairly well (Iiiiiiin spaaaaaace) This too.
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Aug 19, 2015 12:10
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Shadow225 posted:What's the word on Shadowrun: Crossfire? You need all 4 players or it is too difficult to play. Kinda interesting but it's pretty much a logic puzzle.
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Aug 19, 2015 12:54
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signalnoise posted:You need all 4 players or it is too difficult to play. Kinda interesting but it's pretty much a logic puzzle. I only play it 2 player, and we win most of our games. Would advice using the tutorial mission you can get online until you reach 5 karma, though.
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Aug 19, 2015 12:55
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Shadow225 posted:Not interested in bad games. Then why were you asking for a price on Code of Nine?
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lordsummerisle posted:I only play it 2 player, and we win most of our games. Would advice using the tutorial mission you can get online until you reach 5 karma, though. If in any game I have to play the tutorial mission multiple times just to be able to survive in the shallow end something has gone wrong
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Aug 19, 2015 13:08
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signalnoise posted:If in any game I have to play the tutorial mission multiple times just to be able to survive in the shallow end something has gone wrong It isn't really a tutorial mission. More of a level 1 type affair. Think it prevents you from playing it after you reach x amount of karma.
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Aug 19, 2015 13:12
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But can you buy an account booster that allows you to grind levels faster for a week or so?
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Lichtenstein posted:But can you buy an account booster that allows you to grind levels faster for a week or so? It's your game. You can just slap 5 karma on your characters from the start. Go for it.
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Aug 19, 2015 13:28
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Crossfire is more card game and less RPG than pathfinder. It feels like team lockpicking, and plays pretty well. If I was a poor kid with just this game and a static group I'd be ecstatic with it. As it stands the notion of grinding a board game is impossible since my group has more games than time, and cheating ahead too far past the first xp roadblock means we'd probably never play it again. If there was a web version where you had your own characters with a matchmaking service, tooled to take advantage of the digital platform it'd probably be an excellent game.
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Aug 19, 2015 14:06
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Yeah, the whole upgrade between games falls flat. I really want a neat rpg lite game with progression between sessions. I think Pathfinder did that part well. Unfortunately, the game itself is terrible.
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Jedit posted:
I looked it up to see what the big deal was; there's a BGG post which includes the censored and then the uncensored images. The first thing I thought was "But how does that triangle stay on her bottom if she's not wearing any clothing?" But then I figured it out. Good story, I know.
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Aug 19, 2015 14:11
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So we're all equally excited about Seafall, right? I for one have already cranked my unrealistic-expectation meter all the way up to nearly Matrix II levels. As always, BGG has all the hot scoops       
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thuly posted:Crossfire is more card game and less RPG than pathfinder. Card game? I think you are playing the wrong Crossfire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCwn1NTK-50
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Aug 19, 2015 15:16
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Going to be streaming twilight imperium with a bunch of people who have never played it. twitch.tv/theislandgames
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Skyl3lazer posted:Going to be streaming twilight imperium with a bunch of people who have never played it. Good luck!
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Skyl3lazer posted:Going to be streaming twilight imperium with a bunch of people who have never played it. RIP
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Skyl3lazer posted:Going to be streaming twilight imperium with a bunch of people who have never played it.
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Skyl3lazer posted:Going to be streaming twilight imperium with a bunch of people who have never played it. Oh my god this is loving awful. -5 player game using RAW -Some dude basically reading whole manual aloud before game -Distant Suns tokens on the table -Host only kinda knows the rules himself
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plus a LOT of whining about poo poo they don't understand. Ouch. "I've had a third of an Angry Orchard and I'm done already"  Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Aug 19, 2015 |
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Aug 19, 2015 17:06
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I had to turn the stream off. It's too painful watching someone so awful at teaching games try to herd people through TI3. I seriously can't believe he's sitting there reading rules minutiae aloud from the rulebook before the 1st turn has even started. What a loving idiot.
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Archenteron posted:The people pining for Republic of Rome should go check out Galactic Destiny. It's not the greatest, but it scratches that Senatorial politics-deals-and-backstabbing itch fairly well (Iiiiiiin spaaaaaace) My recollection of looking into Galactic Destiny was that it was approximately as convoluted as Republic of Rome and not much easier to obtain. And that the corrected rules needed to be obtained online.
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Honestly, if I'm gonna play something like TI I want it to be with some pro-tier alpha nerds who have already read the book and done the required prespergeration
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This reminds me I should actually sit down and learn the rules to Empire of the Sun instead of pushing ships around and hoping my brother doesn't correct me
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fozzy fosbourne posted:Honestly, if I'm gonna play something like TI I want it to be with some pro-tier alpha nerds who have already read the book and done the required prespergeration Hey-yo.
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fozzy fosbourne posted:Honestly, if I'm gonna play something like TI I want it to be with some pro-tier alpha nerds who have already read the book and done the required prespergeration I have met a handful of people in a local boardgame meetup who showed up to a game having watched a "how to play video" beforehand and even helped with setup and knew what was up before the first turn. This blew my mind and I want to marry each and every one of them.
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Aug 19, 2015 17:46
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Silliness aside, SU&SD's video on how to teach a board game has some good tips. Mostly don't be a dick and try to dictate the rules to your friends/prisoners.
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Aug 19, 2015 18:48
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The big thing the su&sd video mentioned was rehearsing a teaching session. Probably not necessary for Dixit or Codenames, but useful for anything meatier.
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Countblanc posted:The big thing the su&sd video mentioned was rehearsing a teaching session. Probably not necessary for Dixit or Codenames, but useful for anything meatier. I like to do this in the car on the way to the event, personally.
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I always use someone's video on the internet, it's just the best way. 
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Dre2Dee2 posted:I always use someone's video on the internet, it's just the best way. Most people I've met aren't willing to crowd around a laptop and watch Rodney explain a game over 25 minutes, as wonderful as that would be.
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Countblanc posted:Most people I've met aren't willing to crowd around a laptop and watch Rodney explain a game over 25 minutes, as wonderful as that would be. A video that's more directed at people who have all the real components in front of them would be pretty good, actually.
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I always end up having to teach most every game we play. I can certainly improve at it but here are some things I try to do. -Know the game yourself (seems obvious but really is the most important thing) -Check BGG for player aids and/or rulebook summaries and clarifications. Some games (like TI3) have TERRIBLE rules for looking things up, and no matter how much you prepare somebody will probably ask a question you don't know the answer to which will leave you hurriedly turning from page to page desperately looking for the rules on planetary defense systems or something . One of the worst gaming sessions I ever had was a game of Arkham Horror that we attempted to play with way too many people and a host who had never played before. We basically spent the entire game watching TV while he frantically searched the manual for rules. - On that note, if you can't find a rule don't be afraid to just make a call and look it up later. Right or wrong, at least the game will keep moving along. - Clearly explain what everyone is doing (the game structure) and what the objective is (how to win). My one friend starts every game explanation like 'well you have these cards and you can take two actions a turn but then you pull a bad card and..... blah blah blah' and I always have to tell him to stop, slow down, and tell us our goal and what the game is all about. Sometimes it's easy to get lost in the details. - If at all possible, set up the game ahead of time ESPECIALLY for games like TI3 that take forever to set up. If not, do whatever you can to organize your box ahead of time so that you don't spend too much time searching for a starter tile or whatever. - Skip unnecessary or tedious rules! For example, online you can find 'balanced' TI3 setups for any number of players. Just use that and skip the whole 'lets build the map together' phase until people know what the hell they are doing. Along that same note, try to avoid expansions unless your friends are experienced in the game. Exceptions can be made for expansions that 'fix' the core game (looking at you FFG) or don't really add any new rules or complexity (extra cosmic encounter races). It can be REALLY tempting to dive into that new expansion you just got for that game you really love, but often I find it is a bit overwhelming for newer players (this is why I'll never get to play that Dungeon Lords expansion I bought). - USE EXAMPLES! Don't just explain combat, have two people actually roll dice and fight each other. Have them make some decisions and tell them what happened. Make sure everyone is involved (I like to ask questions to people who get distracted by their phones or other stuff). I think it's also fun to personalize the rules if you know your group ('Remember last week when Bill betrayed Alex and won the game? In THIS game you can't break an alliance until such-and-such card is played').
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drat Dirty Ape posted:- Clearly explain what everyone is doing (the game structure) and what the objective is (how to win). My one friend starts every game explanation like 'well you have these cards and you can take two actions a turn but then you pull a bad card and..... blah blah blah' and I always have to tell him to stop, slow down, and tell us our goal and what the game is all about. Sometimes it's easy to get lost in the details. Yeah, context is critical for learning. I think this is one of the more important ones.
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Countblanc posted:Most people I've met aren't willing to crowd around a laptop and watch Rodney explain a game over 25 minutes, as wonderful as that would be. Which is why I use Chromecast so people can watch on the TV.
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Also give them poo poo to touch while you explain it to them. When I explained L.E.D to my friends, they paid more attention to explanations when it was one of them looking at the pieces and asking "what is this?" than if I had just held the piece in my hand while explaining and pointing to it. That said gently caress rulebooks that are missing rules to poo poo like "what happens if the deck ran out" in a game in which you will go through the deck almost twice per match while being at its recommended player size.
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Cuba Libre is getting an expansion? That's sorta weird. For some reason, I like the idea of COIN games being "complete," unlike other games which could very easily have expansions (Forbidden Stars, for example) if needed. Just very...huh.
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Rutibex posted:Card game? I think you are playing the wrong Crossfire: Literally every time I draw a crossfire card in Combat Commander I have to stop myself from singing this so my opponent doesn't know I have one.
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What does COIN mean, by the way? I've seen it mentioned on post Cold War military talkd but Google is failing me. 
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