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people... Born earlier than me... watching tv? What the f*ck?!
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Aug 10, 2015 21:17
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Don't all Warner Brothers cartoons (the good ones) make references that are way beyond their target audience? I remember watching an episode of Brave and the Bold where Batman and Batwoman switch bodies. It ended with Felix Faust quoting the "Well, Nobody's perfect." line from Some Like it Hot...which my wife had to point out to me.
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Aug 11, 2015 02:47
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Batman:TAS cast William Sanderson as a robotics genius, which would obviously fly over the head of any kid watching the show cause I seriously doubt they would have seen Blade Runner.
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Aug 11, 2015 02:52
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Well, it's more cartoon in general. Good cartoons tend to be made because the creators like them and not because they're trying to make something that appeals to children and inherent in these people making things they like, they also tend to reference the things they like. It rarely matters if the target audience gets these jokes because they're usually more in the background and most people (kids especially) just tend to gloss over references they don't understand. Like I remember growing up that both Eek the Cat and Animaniacs had episode long homages to Apocalypse Now.
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Aug 11, 2015 02:53
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I did not like tonight's episode. It was gross and just kind of unpleasant.
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Aug 14, 2015 00:19
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muscles like this? posted:I did not like tonight's episode. It was gross and just kind of unpleasant. It's the gross stuff that kids lap up, it was good. Ta da-da da-da
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Aug 14, 2015 12:00
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Speaking of gross stuff, Smile Bones was inspired by DeviantArt wasn't it?
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Aug 14, 2015 13:24
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Oh god, that was horrifying and utterly disgusting! I just really want to floss and keep my mouth shut now. Watching them remove their teeth was cartoony as hell but disturbing.
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Aug 14, 2015 13:47
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Yet it was still mild compared to the Ren and Stimpy teeth related episode.
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Aug 15, 2015 03:14
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Watching this week's when BB got the stack of cash I immediately thought of the web comic where a guy wishes he could inhale teeth as an intoxicant and then proceeds to rip out all of his teeth and cause the downfall of society. Glad to see they went in a similar gross direction. Good episode.
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Aug 15, 2015 03:19
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I had some serious ren and stimpy nerve ending vibes from this episode. That's not necessarily bad, but it is really gross, and just eating the teeth with no consequences was lame. There were a few recent episodes that I didn't enjoy as much, but I hope that isn't an indication of an overall drop in quality.
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Aug 15, 2015 03:50
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muscles like this? posted:I did not like tonight's episode. It was gross and just kind of unpleasant. Yeah, that poo poo was nasty as hell.
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Aug 15, 2015 06:04
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I thought it was pretty funny, myself. Half of it was because I have a friend who I know would freak the ever-loving poo poo out at this episode. Kind of gave me a Psychonaut vibe. Also if you want a nice dose of manchildren getting salty about getting called on their poo poo and having it sail right over their heads,(and I know it never quite gets old  ) This shmuck should fit the bill, the comments are solid gold too. He's done other episodes and one where he does the depressing time travel episode of the original that's 100% just an excuse to kvetch, but I'll be damned if I'm trawling through his archive, I can feel the  from 50 yards.e: "The original show held up perfectly, but as a fully functional adult I can appreciate them fully" loving 
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Aug 16, 2015 05:27
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ManlyGrunting posted:I thought it was pretty funny, myself. Half of it was because I have a friend who I know would freak the ever-loving poo poo out at this episode. Kind of gave me a Psychonaut vibe. I recommend that everyone watch this guy's videos about TTG. Cartoons are funny, but what this guy is doing is masterful: a series of one-man dramas about an alien trying to understand "comedy" and "cartoons". BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Aug 16, 2015 |
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Aug 16, 2015 12:16
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I actually have seen that guy before because at some point I ran into some video he did on like the top ten worst episodes of Spongebob. That was  enough that I don't think I can take watching him rant about TTG.
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Aug 16, 2015 12:19
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ManlyGrunting posted:I thought it was pretty funny, myself. Half of it was because I have a friend who I know would freak the ever-loving poo poo out at this episode. Kind of gave me a Psychonaut vibe. I'm angry that I can't give this guy a wedgie through my computer.
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Aug 16, 2015 16:20
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When will these children's cartoon writers finally learn that autistic men are the most important audience.
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Aug 16, 2015 19:14
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Mr. Enter is one of those guys who's passionate about My Little Pony, so that should tell you everything you need to know about him as an ~animation expert~
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Aug 16, 2015 19:24
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"I guess we can't hold on to our childhoods forever" YES YOU CAN!! YES YOU CAN  that and his spergy to cyborg saying call the police were priceless
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Aug 16, 2015 21:12
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The whole nerd thing about "protecting my childhood" is really weird to me. Like, nothing's going to go after your childhood because it already loving happened! Start enjoying being an adult! You can drive cars and have beers (not at the same time) and stay up all night without having to turn your TV down low so Mom doesn't hear! Edit: There's also this undercurrent of "YOU KIDS ARE ENJOYING THE WRONG THING! YOU SHOULD LIKE THIS THING I LIKE!" which is itself really loving weird and creepy for childless men in their 20s to do. Waffleman_ fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Aug 16, 2015 |
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Aug 16, 2015 21:24
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I kind of clicked around the video to see what ti was like adn the only part I really watched was him stating that the clowns represented cartoons and then making a  point about how "hey all cartoons aren't for children!". This is despite the fact the actual episode never says cartoons, but rather it says "children's entertainment" over and over. That was enough for me.Seeing things like that just make me really glad that the show likes trolling them so much. They really deserve it.
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Aug 16, 2015 22:53
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Reminds me a lot of that one CollegeHumor video about childhood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7eO-HO7GLI
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Aug 17, 2015 01:03
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Waffleman_ posted:The whole nerd thing about "protecting my childhood" is really weird to me. Like, nothing's going to go after your childhood because it already loving happened! Start enjoying being an adult! You can drive cars and have beers (not at the same time) and stay up all night without having to turn your TV down low so Mom doesn't hear! They've always existed, we just never had a time where people are so openly prematurely old and bitter about not being ten anymore and that we can see all of their stupid opinions broadcasted all over the internet, so as to preserve them for future generations who complain how kids these days don't enjoy childhood the right way. Like how they did with Steven Universe, Angry Birds or the reboot of Adventure Time.
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Aug 17, 2015 08:15
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I hate Angry Birds in the same way I hate Crazy Frog. Jamstar hosed over the guy who made the original viral sound with a lovely contract, and Angry Birds just stole a popular flash game's central mechanics, changed the art around and marketed the gently caress out of it.
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Aug 19, 2015 16:28
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Megaspel posted:and Angry Birds just stole a popular flash game's central mechanics, changed the art around and marketed the gently caress out of it. Replace "flash" with "mobile" and you've basically just described Zynga's entire business model.
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Aug 19, 2015 20:34
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My favorite part about TTG, aside from the manchildren who's heads are lightyears under the joke, has got to be how much of an example it is against the "kids shows to tell powerful stories"-movement that AV Club and tumblr are so obsessed about. They can slap as many buzzwords they picked up from Psychology 101 on their Adventure Time-review as they want and can keep praising Steven Universe for not conforming to the gender binary or something, but in the end kids still want to watch a dumb show about Food and goofy heroes. Fake Edit: looking at AV Club, they seem to absolutely refuse to talk about TTG, and if they do, it's labeled as anything but. It's really bizarre how the Internet wants to keep the show's popularity a dark secret. Fake Edit II: Oh drat we're already at season 3!
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Sep 6, 2015 20:35
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adventure time is okay sometimes i guess but it kind of amazes me how far up its own rear end a kids show in a parody fairytale world can be. i like TTG because it's basically an adult swim cartoon without the swear words
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Sep 6, 2015 20:58
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horriblePencilist posted:My favorite part about TTG, aside from the manchildren who's heads are lightyears under the joke, has got to be how much of an example it is against the "kids shows to tell powerful stories"-movement that AV Club and tumblr are so obsessed about. They can slap as many buzzwords they picked up from Psychology 101 on their Adventure Time-review as they want and can keep praising Steven Universe for not conforming to the gender binary or something, but in the end kids still want to watch a dumb show about Food and goofy heroes. Are you really actually upset that people spend more time talking about the shows that have more complex themes and spend less time talking about the shows that have less complex themes?
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Sep 6, 2015 21:07
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I like that there can be some fairly deep and interesting children's programming that can teach some valuable lessons for kids, and at the same time there's some goofy silly comedy as well. Animation is just a medium, the more variety there is the better. Going "yeah, this way of doing cartoons is so much better than the other, the other is just too serious/stupid " is the dumbest thing, both ways are fine, enjoy that there's both and you can pick one if you want.
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Sep 6, 2015 21:09
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Are you really actually upset that people spend more time talking about the shows that have more complex themes and spend less time talking about the shows that have less complex themes? Not sure where you got the "really upset"-part from, I still watch them, I'm just burnt out from the noodle arm teen drama. I find it refreshing to see an alternative not only do well, but actually become the most popular kids' show on current television. Going back to sour TTG-reviews: deviantArt has some great pieces too: http://tohokari-steel.deviantart.com/art/OTD-Teen-Titans-Go-Waffles-476835324
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Sep 7, 2015 15:59
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The comments explicitly names that guy I linked earlier as inspiration and the voice of these guys too, I guess he's the closest they get to actual criticism instead of descending into sound and fury. Maybe I should link his other "Toddler Titans" (sic) reviews, I may have stumbled onto something beautiful here. e: holy poo poo this is gold, he recommends Kill la Kill as an alternative e2: "Steel took a puff of marijuana" For all the ranting about "MY CHILDHOOD" they are pretty quick to suggest the brutal maiming and death of their favourite characters. Also the creators for the grevious sin of not taking their favourite show from ten years ago seriously, but that's a given. Also this guy is apparently 23, holy poo poo. How the hell do you write this poorly at 23, I honestly would have guessed he was 15/16 by how he wrote. elastoneIswear: I was going to mock him liking a pony/kingdom hearts bit, but right next to it was this nice little bit of lunacy. What is it with people way into childrens cartoons and right-wing nationalism?  Lots of stuff against Sarkeesian, feminism and SJWs too. And under "Literature" the first thing is fanart of an Anne Rice novel. This is a deep-rear end rabbit hole I have found myself in, his "top 30 characters" bit is elucidating, and not just because he uses capital letters on TvTropes terms like they're proper nouns.Alright one more, same dude's review for Breaking Bad. Although review is kind of the wrong word, since it's borderline incomprehensible and I don't think there's any actual criticism, analysis or observations, just two guys recounting what happened to set up zingers like they're trying to write themselves into the role of the robots from Mystery Science Theatre 3000. I didn't know it was possible to get so little out of the show. His little not-YJ bit is pretty amateur too. Alright, time to show off the Mr Enter stuff. For your viewing pleasure His depressing time travel episode from the original series. Sort of a palatte cleanser, decent if kind of basic look at a good episode. He immediately goes for the TTG spoof on it, of note is him getting upset that Nightwing marries Batgirl like in the comics Here is Waffles, which I kind of find weird that everyone jumps to as the trump card of "this show isn't good, checkmate, Christians 1 Atheists 0 ", it's an episode that tries something, and the show is good at just throwing things to the wall to see what works, and if it doesn't then hey, it was only a few minutes.Serious Business, where he gets way too goddamn pleased with his stupid nickname. Boys vs Girls, where he completely misses the point of the joke and takes it seriously (it seems like every show when I was a kid had an episode like this that ended in a lukewarm tie). It's like the joke at the end of the spice life episode, where Robin espouses a middle-way moral and everyone is just sort of agreeable but underwhelmed. Really the last one is the one to watch because holy poo poo he gets so mad about a dumb cartoon playing with boys not being superior E: during his "won't somebody think of the children" bit on Boys vs Girls "kids don't learn a sense of sarcasm until they're older (which is laughably false) heck some adults never develop one either 
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Sep 7, 2015 20:53
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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WallBangers/TeenTitansGo http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DethroningMoment/TeenTitansGo More nerds getting so mad. "Kicking A Ball And Pretending to be Hurt" has a similar plot where Robin teaches the Titans about Soccer, something that the other Titans apparently have never heard of, even though in other episodes the Titans have clearly played sports before. But then comes the climax of the episode, where its revealed that soccer balls are actually eggs that soccer trolls hatch from and it's all part of a plot by the troll king Goal to make people like Soccer, which he states is the most boring thing in the world and no one plays it. Not only is this completely false as many people in the US play soccer and it's a popular sport in foreign countries, but it also shows that the writers aren't even trying to write something decent anymore. They are just recycling the same plots with a different theme. Way to show your lack of creativity, writers. Beekeeping and You fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Sep 7, 2015 |
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Sep 7, 2015 22:50
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How is it possible to misunderstand a joke that badly? 
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Sep 7, 2015 23:06
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The "Dethroning Moment" pages for a lot of cartoons are basically full of tropers not getting jokes.
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Sep 7, 2015 23:12
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axleblaze posted:How is it possible to misunderstand a joke that badly? quote:"Mouth Hole" is about the other Titans finding out Robin can't whistle. They then proceed to treat him like he's a loser who isn't worthy of anything just because he can't whistle. Yes. This episode completely ignores the fact that some people are biologically incapable of whistling! quote:"Hey Pizza" has Cyborg and Beast Boy try hard as they can to delay the pizza guy from arriving at the tower on time so that they won't have to pay for it, in doing so they not only spend thousands of dollars just to get ONE pizza without paying they also do several illegal and dangerous acts such as hacking the traffic lights, shooting lasers AND MISSILES at him, they then use an ORBITAL LASER to blast the pizza place, and only now do they realize they're going to jail. But don't worry, the pizza guy's alright. The rest of the pizzeria workers? Screw them, they're dead. quote:A episode that gives this troper a migraine is the episode 'Books'. In this episode, it's apparently the FIRST time any of them heard about books besides Raven...even though that, in the comics and original show (including spin-off comics), Robin has learned many different lanquages, Cyborg is a robotics expert, Starfire would have likely read at least SOME books in order to learn about earth's culture and Beast boy read comics. And they had to 'take the fun out of reading' to save the day, which is a bad lesson for kids who enjoy reading.
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Sep 7, 2015 23:37
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That physically hurts to read. I mean I understand people not liking the show and not finding it funny but this is pure, unadulterated
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Sep 7, 2015 23:43
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Waffleman_ posted:TV Tropes pages are basically full of tropers not getting jokes. here i made this post more accurate. TV Tropes is an awful place.
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Sep 7, 2015 23:43
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TwoPair posted:here i made this post more accurate. TV Tropes is an awful place. And the jokes that they do get, they run into the ground, see: every "page" for a fake movie or TV show mentioned in a thing.
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Sep 7, 2015 23:57
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horriblePencilist posted:Not sure where you got the "really upset"-part from, I still watch them, I'm just burnt out from the noodle arm teen drama. I find it refreshing to see an alternative not only do well, but actually become the most popular kids' show on current television.
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Sep 8, 2015 00:21
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I'm beginning to suspect that a lot of these 20 something super fans of the older show like to see themselves as Robin and don't like how Antagonistic and Robin like he is in GO. Granted some of them may also be angry about other things like mocking 10 year old RavenXBeast Boy shipping or don't enjoy some of the anti-lessons each of these episode focused jokes end on, but mainly Robin is TvTropes personified and they don't like how awful of a person he really is.
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Sep 8, 2015 01:18
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