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Potsticker posted:Still two less episodes than "Let's introduce every single cast member in two episode arcs for the beginning of Fourze which just dragged on when watching it week to week. There has been mention that it's not so bad if you binge through it, but it soured me on Fourze a little in the beginning. except those are characters and not toy ads, and not only that they're characters that will be interacting with Gen for the rest of the entire story so it's important to get to know them and why they appreciate him? And it's more interesting to have a character at least have an arc at the beginning than to have them all be perfect coming in? I haven't seen this wizard poo poo except the first couple of episodes (which were stupid) but it does not sound like defensible storytelling.
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Potsticker posted:Still two less episodes than "Let's introduce every single cast member in two episode arcs for the beginning of Fourze which just dragged on when watching it week to week. There has been mention that it's not so bad if you binge through it, but it soured me on Fourze a little in the beginning. Haha yeah, as someone who binged both series Fourze's intro felt alot less egregious. The momentum of starting up a new series made it alot easier to swallow. (Meteor's way too long arc, though......................)
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Aug 19, 2015 08:25
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Brother Entropy posted:Haha yeah, as someone who binged both series Fourze's intro felt alot less egregious. The momentum of starting up a new series made it alot easier to swallow. Luckily Fourze had such a great middle portion and everything smoothed out. And the KRC was all fun once the introductions were out of the way. It's really too bad the Meteor/Tachibana plot ended up having such an unsatisfying conclusion because the build up was pretty compelling.
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Aug 19, 2015 12:42
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Burkion posted:Their tone falls more in line with the more serious shows from the Showa Era, like X or V3. In one of the earlier episodes of V3, one of the Shocker mutants karate chops off a dudes head. Grimdark indeed 
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Aug 19, 2015 14:12
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Potsticker posted:Still two less episodes than "Let's introduce every single cast member in two episode arcs for the beginning of Fourze which just dragged on when watching it week to week. There has been mention that it's not so bad if you binge through it, but it soured me on Fourze a little in the beginning. It was good if you just watched it as it aired, you just have bad taste. Also a huge difference between episodes about Gen winning over and being friends with the supporting cast (Which, y'know, kind of his whole thing from literally the first episode) and episodes about introing the new toys
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Aug 19, 2015 15:00
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AzraelNewtype posted:Cough. Corin got real sick of waiting in the years between timing the series and that post replied to you, so he just released these, which all just work with the raws (sort of, since the only seeded raws now are 60fps, introducing occasional frame bleeding) Bunny Hat put out. As far as I know they're only retimed, no other edits, but that's like 90% of the battle to make it watchable. Haha holy poo poo, that owns. Now no one has an excuse to not watch Kuuga. And yeah, yellow subs own, but they're a good shorthand for indicating that people may find something dated.
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Aug 19, 2015 16:40
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Literally The Worst posted:It was good if you just watched it as it aired, you just have bad taste. Technically, Fourze introduced new characters and new toys at the same time. I believe Tomoko and J's arcs introduced Fire States and Elec States respectively, and every arc at that point introduced a new switch or two. Fourze's plot definitely took a long time to get going but I still enjoyed getting there because the cast was so fun.
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Aug 19, 2015 16:50
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:Technically, Fourze introduced new characters and new toys at the same time. I believe Tomoko and J's arcs introduced Fire States and Elec States respectively, and every arc at that point introduced a new switch or two. Yup. Fourze was a really fun show and despite giving us a tiny happy meal toy for just about every episode it didn't really distract from that. I still love that he had an arm attachment for his arm slots and an arm attachment for his leg slots.
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Aug 19, 2015 17:03
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:Technically, Fourze introduced new characters and new toys at the same time. I believe Tomoko and J's arcs introduced Fire States and Elec States respectively, and every arc at that point introduced a new switch or two. I mean they weren't episodes specifically revolving around hey kids check out the sweet new action figure!
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Aug 19, 2015 17:27
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The morality of Shinkenger episode 2 is odd, but I'm interested in seeing where it goes with it's ideas and characters.
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Aug 19, 2015 20:56
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Literally The Worst posted:It was good if you just watched it as it aired, you just have bad taste. I watched those episodes as they aired and also thought that they were way dragged out and not fun. And Fourze also did a whole lot of new toy episodes too. You just might not remember them since they were all in the first half of the show. Introducing Wizard's forms wasn't as bad because they only showed up, seemingly out of nowhere at the end when they were needed in a fight. In that sense they were no different than Kuuga introducing his forms and then his forms' upgrades. Speaking of which.... Kuuga is a hard show to watch. A year or so ago I said, "If Kuuga has any issues its that everything happens at a snails pace. Not so much in regards to the series plotline but in episodes themselves. Characters take for loving ever to just, for example, make and drink tea, then spend an interminable amount of time commenting about how good it tastes. Its not shot with the manic quickness of a kids show, which is fine, but its incredibly slow pace is not fine. Agito had this too and even to a small extent Ryuki." Furthermore, the super high casualty counts that get tossed around aren't as dark as everyone says they are. Its like Dr. Evil demanding a billion dollars- in a way I found it funny. Certainly Agito's almost once per episode on-screen civilian deaths were "dark"er even if it was only two or three deaths instead of a whole load of off-screen people.
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Aug 20, 2015 01:03
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Yeah, the plot moves at a decent clip but the moment-to-moment pacing is just absolutely molasses. It's directed in the style of older Japanese dramas and, frankly, those can be painful to watch for the same reason. Kuuga's still probably my favorite despite that, because all those character moments add up and it all sets a tone that's very much unlike the rest of the franchise. There's something very... hometown-ish about Kuuga.
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Aug 20, 2015 01:22
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"Actually, it's Chomolungma."
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Aug 20, 2015 01:23
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Eiji is amazing and I was completely sold on him the moment he punched a power box in when Maki was acting like an emotionless dick.
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Aug 20, 2015 02:25
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Does Takeru ever stop being such a dick?
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Aug 20, 2015 12:04
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WickedHate posted:Does Takeru ever stop being such a dick? He lightens up a bit as the series progresses. His attitude and the reasons behind it get directly addressed as well.
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Aug 20, 2015 12:14
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WickedHate posted:Does Takeru ever stop being such a dick? Yeah, that's actually one of the main themes of the series.
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Aug 20, 2015 15:20
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Takeru lightens up like episode 6 or something. Then it becomes non-existent once his backstory and 6th sentai joins in.
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Aug 20, 2015 16:19
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Tae posted:Takeru lightens up like episode 6 or something. Then it becomes non-existent once his backstory and THE GREATEST 6th sentai joins in. Episode 18 is when Shinkenger became top tier.
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Aug 20, 2015 17:25
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But Signalman isn't in Shinkenger?
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Aug 20, 2015 17:28
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Signal man is a piece of poo poo who abandoned his family. Poor sweet Signalwoman and Signalboy. (Also he's as much of a 6 as Rio or Mele are) ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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Aug 20, 2015 17:32
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The correct answer is Gokai Silver 
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Aug 20, 2015 17:47
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Dre2Dee2 posted:The correct answer is Gokai Silver 
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Aug 20, 2015 17:54
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I never liked Gokai Silver. When I was watching it it felt like he got way too much focus as an individual during the series; like the middle parts of the series were more about him then the interplanetary pirate gang looking for treasure
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Aug 20, 2015 18:01
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WickedHate posted:Does Takeru ever stop being such a dick?
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Stallion Cabana posted:I never liked Gokai Silver. When I was watching it it felt like he got way too much focus as an individual during the series; like the middle parts of the series were more about him then the interplanetary pirate gang looking for treasure That's because it was more about him than the pirates who were not actually interested in being a proper Sentai team, because his entire arc is teaching them to be a Sentai team.
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Aug 20, 2015 18:05
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Stallion Cabana posted:I never liked Gokai Silver. When I was watching it it felt like he got way too much focus as an individual during the series; like the middle parts of the series were more about him then the interplanetary pirate gang looking for treasure That's because Gokai Silver actually enjoyed interacting with the plot while most of the Gokaigers had to be loving dragged kicking and screaming into things.
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Aug 20, 2015 18:05
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No Idea who Gokai Silver is really. Gooookaiiiiii Silveeeeeerrrrrr on the other hand is great.
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AzraelNewtype posted:That's because it was more about him than the pirates who were not actually interested in being a proper Sentai team, because his entire arc is teaching them to be a Sentai team. Yea, exactly. He's the only Earthling besides Aka who gives a crap Basically, Gokai Silver's awesomeness is inversely proportional to how lame his henshin toy is.
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Aug 20, 2015 18:55
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Dre2Dee2 posted:Yea, exactly. He's the only Earthling besides Aka who gives a crap It was 100% appropriate to make Gokai Silver's henshin phone into an action figure display case. I stand by my glorious, nerdy son and his idiot phone
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My main problem with GokaiSilver is that the series seems to totally focus on him the moment he joins. We have this gang of total badasses (even Doc), and then suddenly, hey, here's a nerd, now he's the main character yay! I mean seriously, we already had a Sentai for that (and it is a drat good one), so why did we need this? The saddest thing is that I do like Gai as a character, I just hate that the writers seem to have a gigantic need to shove him everywhere, far beyond the usual time the sixth gets. Hell, he gets the say on how to use the Greatest Treasure in the Universe despite being the only one who didn't have a reason to get it, and he gets the final hit on the last boss of the series despite this usually being a Red or team move. He wasn't NEARLY as bad as some examples that came after him (I'M GETTING FIRED UP), but still... The second Movie Wars made me like him a lot more though. It was a terrible, terrible movie, but it portrayed Gai as truly heroic and awesome.
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He was the main focus for like 10 episodes, then he became a team member again as the others got their time to shine, then the last 20 or so was Marvelous vs. his rival, with some snippets of Joe. I rewatched Gokaiger recently, and the Gai focus is overblown. He's not Right, Daigo or Ninninger Red levels of attention whoreness.
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Blaze Dragon posted:My main problem with GokaiSilver is that the series seems to totally focus on him the moment he joins. We have this gang of total badasses (even Doc), and then suddenly, hey, here's a nerd, now he's the main character yay! I mean seriously, we already had a Sentai for that (and it is a drat good one), so why did we need this? Badasses who have no desire to actually do their job, or interest in the previous series heroes that the tsunami prompted to come in droves. Also, please tell me you aren't referring to Akibaranger for your nerd fronted Sentai. If you aren't, I don't know what you do mean, and if you are you've decided that a show that started in April 2012 came before one that ended February of the same year (and serves a very different role, what with it being explicitly for adults and not at all the target demographic of the main series). And even if you do have a different one in mind, you must be talking about something that aired before the target demographic was born.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Takeru is a legitimately well-written character in a story which considering he's the star of a toy commercial is a loving miracle. It mostly just bothers me because the plot of the first three episodes were how everyone should shut up and listen to him. Ryunosuke's behavior towards him is portrayed as funny, but ultimately right I guess? His behavior toward Kotoha never got refuted, and then he was the only reason Chiaki was able to beat a monster...I'm glad it'll get better. Tae posted:He's not Right, Daigo or Ninninger Red levels of attention whoreness. I don't get the claim Daigo stole the spotlight. He never seemed to drain attention away from the others any more than being the main character usually does.
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Utchy is the best sixth, and if you don't believe me, you clearly haven't seen him arrive. (Also his theme song is love  )
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Yeah Daigo's perfectness and superiority was basically just kind of glossed over, like the episode where Kyoryu Gray makes them shrink down and fight battles with the dinosaurs while under handicaps, all the focus was on the other four characters. Daigo just shows up at the end and goes "Oh yeah I had to deal with all four of your handicaps at once" and nothing more is said about it.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Daigo just shows up at the end and goes "Oh yeah I had to deal with all four of your handicaps at once" and nothing more is said about it. That episode was great because it pointed out that by being so good at everything already, there was no room to grow and get better. Having no weaknesses was a legitimate weakness.
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The toppest tier sixth ranger if you're not counting people who aren't technically rangers are Megasilver and Dragonranger. 
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WickedHate posted:That episode was great because it pointed out that by being so good at everything already, there was no room to grow and get better. Having no weaknesses was a legitimate weakness. People liked to mock that, but it really does make sense. I experienced a similar thing in elementary school; I was naturally just good at math, reading, etc, that I never had to push myself and actually try, or learn any study habits or whatnot. Flash forward to late high school and especially college and I was struggling because I had no idea how to handle academic stuff that challenged me. King had the same issue with punchmanning.
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Solo final boss fights are usually boring when Sentai does it, that's why Gokaiger was cool and Shinkenger managed to avoid it despite literally being a Sentai of serving the Red leader.
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