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BlackSwan2.0 posted:I'm doing some mock draft's through Draft Dominator to account for my keepers and traded draft picks. When Megatron is healthy and playing, he's a good bet for production due to his offensive system. If AJ Green is healthy and playing, he's not the same bet because for the same reason.
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Franks Happy Place posted:I bet that by this time next week, Sankey will be at best in a 50/50 timeshare with Cobb. I could of told you that before training camp. Both will get touches and both will do well when the line blocks
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 20:38 |
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I would say Green, and Calvin are exactly even this year. Coin flip it. They both have their positives and negatives, but I think both will have good bounce back years. I looked to get either in the second, and ended up with Green, because someone took Calvin in the first.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 20:52 |
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I really don't like RB/RB, I messed up. I'm playing a best ball MFL10, picked 5th and took J. Charles (Brown went 1.1 or I would have picked him after top 4 RB's) and then Hill at #20 and Hilton at #29. Now I have 2 WR and a flex position to fill in 1PPR and I'm looking at a WR#2 of Tate/Marshall/Cooper. On the other hand, the draft is at #30 and Spiller, Ingram, Gordon, Abdullah, Randle, Ivory and Martin are still on the board to name some favorites.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 21:30 |
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Ya, doing a lot of mock drafts and 'mock' drafts in the ESPN lobby. When I go 2 or EVEN 3 RBs first---very dumb. I am stuck with taking any WR I can get with next 2 picks, sometimes it works out GREAT, other times, not so much.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 21:33 |
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I find mocks to be unhelpful because it is almost universally better to try to game the people you're drafting with rather than a general strategy. For example, I draft with Eagles fans so I know they will let Cowboys and Giants fall further than they should.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 21:35 |
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I just checked Scott Pianowski's rankings. In PPR he has Abdullah as RB9 and #16 overall. I know he's the most accurate ranker per FantasyPros but that's a serious bet.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 21:36 |
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It all depends on who you draft with and how it goes. Last year one of my leagues went apeshit with WRs and QBs and I ended up going Forte/Murray/Bell and rode them all year with Wilson as my QB and TY Hilton as my #1. Won the championship with ease with some waiver wire work. There's no be all end all strategy to the draft, they all have merits and all change as you draft.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 21:37 |
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I do way too many ESPN mock drafts for the small amount of useful knowledge I get in return. Mostly I just do them to get a feel on how long I can wait and not get hosed on having a couple decent QBs. I figure out what rounds they usually disappear and then plan to take them a couple rounds earlier than that in my real draft since my friends don't know how to wait on them
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 21:57 |
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Varg posted:I do way too many ESPN mock drafts for the small amount of useful knowledge I get in return. Mostly I just do them to get a feel on how long I can wait and not get hosed on having a couple decent QBs. I figure out what rounds they usually disappear and then plan to take them a couple rounds earlier than that in my real draft since my friends don't know how to wait on them If your friends are reaching for QBs too early, the way to react is to draft the good players they're skipping over on their reaches, and then make do with a couple of later-tier QBs who you can stream for reasonable if not spectacular points. Copying their poor decisions only means you're also making a poor decision.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 22:07 |
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Does anyone here have any recommendations for good IDP resources?
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 22:16 |
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Leperflesh posted:If your friends are reaching for QBs too early, the way to react is to draft the good players they're skipping over on their reaches, and then make do with a couple of later-tier QBs who you can stream for reasonable if not spectacular points. Copying their poor decisions only means you're also making a poor decision.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 22:22 |
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Thwomp posted:If it's 6, then it's a toss up. 4 and the latter should be a lock. Sorry I should have clarified; 4pt passing TD's. Luck, Wilson and Newton are being kept. I'm keeping Cooks and Matthews at WR, but I'm not confident in either of them being a serviceable WR1 (great WR2's and flex though...)
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 22:23 |
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Does anyone here have any recommendations for good IDP resources? PFF is my IDP go-to
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 22:25 |
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Cross off Kelvin Benjamin on your big boards
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 22:35 |
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Does anyone here have any recommendations for good IDP resources? I use FootballGuys. They have a lot of good articles on IDP
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 22:41 |
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Thanks guys. I'll check them both out.Poonerman posted:Cross off Kelvin Benjamin on your big boards Yeah. ACL. That loving sucks.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 22:43 |
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Poor bastard. Never want to see that happen to a guy. Hope he's able to get healthy and come back for a big year in 2016.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 22:52 |
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Varg posted:oh I do, this is how I've won the league the past 3 years straight. I just target the last few serviceable QBs and attempt to grab them before anyone grabs them as their 2nd QB. if youve won your league 3 years in a row you should find a new league because even through sheer luck someone else should win it......or stop lying.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 22:58 |
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What's the best insider resource to pay for? There are a lot of them in the OP, and all of the guys have ESPN Insider, so I'm looking for something more. Oh, and in a 2 QB league, should I definitely make my 1st and 2nd picks a QB? Last year I went Forte/Murray 1-2, but I never got solid QB play. The guy who won our league basically did it with Andrew Luck and waiver-wire OBJ.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 23:20 |
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10 man league, 7th pick. 1QB, 2RB, 1TE, 3WR, 1K, 2LB, 1DL, 1DB. No flex. Somebody talk me out of drafting Gronk/JJ Watt as my first two picks. Should I pass on an elite RB if he falls to me? Do I go Gronk/elite WR and just build my recieving core to elite levels with Gronk and my 3 spots at WR I have to start? Go maybe a little Mark Ingram/Jon Stewart at RB?
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 23:35 |
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PPR would you rather have Funchess or Boldin?
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 23:38 |
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The God of Pre-season ACL Tears is a vengeful one. ^^ It depends on your scoring system. JJ gets a lot of passes deflected, sacks, and scored like what, 2 touchdowns last year on offense? I doubt you will get an elite RB like AP, Charles, Lynch or Bell bit you take one of those if they fall. Else stock up on WRs and stash your bench with RB hopefuls and lotto tickets. ^ I like Boldin in that spot.
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Mr. BT posted:What's the best insider resource to pay for? There are a lot of them in the OP, and all of the guys have ESPN Insider, so I'm looking for something more. You don't necessarily need to go QB/QB, but you should grab your first two QBs in the first five or six rounds. If Luck is sitting on the board at any point for you, then you hit the draft button as quickly as possible. If it's a 6PTTD league, then you mash that button like it owes you money.
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Suave Fedora posted:
01. JJ Watt - 247 points 02. JPP - 125 points 03. Mario Williams - 112 points 04. Suh - 112 points 05. Carlos Dunlap - 108 points 06. Calaris Campbell - 108 points This is why I'm at this predicament. I would LOVE to get him in the 3rd round, but I just don't see that happening with my draft position and the guys I'm drafting with. Now, I definitely could benefit from snatching whatever WR/RB falls because of JJ getting taken so early, but....gosh darnit, JJ. Although, to be fair, 2013 he only scored 160 points and Quinn did that, too. It's just not sustainable to have a nutty season like last year again, right?
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 23:57 |
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Pick 2 out of the 3: Calvin Johnson, A.J. Green, Jordie Nelson I'm leaning towards Megatron and Green but I feel like Nelson and Green.
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Doltos posted:Pick 2 out of the 3: Calvin Johnson, A.J. Green, Jordie Nelson Megatron & Jordy Rodgers/Stafford >>>>>>>>>>> Your grandmother > Andy Dalton
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TommyGun85 posted:if youve won your league 3 years in a row you should find a new league because even through sheer luck someone else should win it......or stop lying. 2012 - 12 teams 2013 - 10 teams 2014 - 10 teams I have stolen all the luck apparently
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 00:21 |
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89 posted:This is how the scoring ended last year with JJ Watt and the next 5 best DLs: But how does his scoring compare against all positions? I'm trying to gauge how important he is compared to the other Tier 1 guys at the other positions to get a better idea about his scarcity.
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Doltos posted:Pick 2 out of the 3: Calvin Johnson, A.J. Green, Jordie Nelson Green/Megatron Their team''s passing games are still centered around them. I could easily see Jordy getting a little less this season with the Packers going to more of a trio with him/Cobb/Adams.
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Tiptoes posted:Green/Megatron
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Suave Fedora posted:But how does his scoring compare against all positions? I'm trying to gauge how important he is compared to the other Tier 1 guys at the other positions to get a better idea about his scarcity. Here's the top 10 from those positions last year in this league: QB 01. Aaron Rodgers - 364 points 02. Andrew Luck - 350 points 03. Peyton Manning - 324 points 04. Russell Wilson - 316 points 05. Big Rape - 314 points 06. Drew Brees - 307 points 07. Tom Brady - 284 points 08. Matt Ryan - 281 points 09. Tony Romo - 271 points 10. Ryan Tannehill - 270 points RB 01. LeVeon Bell - 333 points 02. DeMarco Murray - 323 points 03. Matt Forte - 297 points 04. Marshawn Lynch - 283 points 05. Arian Foster - 257 points 06. Eddie Lacy - 254 points 07. Jamaal Charles - 231 points 08. Justin Forsett - 227 points 09. Lamar Miller - 205 points 10. Jeremy Hill - 202 points WR 01. Antonio Brown - 341 points 02. Demariyus Thomas - 291 points 03. Jordy Nelson - 290 points 04. Dez Bryant - 278 points 05. Odell Beckham - 264 points 06. Emmanuel Sanders - 257 points 07. Randall Cobb - 254 points 08. Julio Jones - 250 points 09. Jeremy Maclin - 250 points 10. TY Hilton - 223 points TEs 01. Gronk - 226 points 02. Jimmy Graham - 189 points 03. Antonio Grates - 188 points 04. Greg Olsen - 179 points 05. Martellus Bennett - 177 points 06. Colby Fleener - 154 points 07. Travis Kelce - 147 points 08, Delanie Walker - 146 points 09. Julius Thomas - 144 points 10. Jason Witten - 134 points DL 01. JJ Watt - 247 points 02. JPP - 125 points 03. Mario Williams - 112 points 04. Donkey Kong Suh - 112 points 05. Carlos Dunlap - 108 points 06. Calaris Campbell - 108 points 07,. Everson Griffen - 104 points 08. Aaron Donald - 100 points 09. Rob Ninkovich - 100 points 10. Jerry Hughes - 99 points 10 man league, 7th pick. 1QB, 2RB, 1TE, 3WR, 1K, 2LB, 1DL, 1DB. No flex. So, basically now I probably should just take Antonio Brown, Gronk, and pray for JJ Watt but don't expect him in the 3rd. 89 fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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Tiptoes posted:Green/Megatron But out of the three, Jordy is by far the most consistent and the Packers had the Cobb/Adams/Nelson trio last year and he still put up huge numbers. I would easily take Jordy for one of those three and then its almost a tossup between CJ and Green. MrSargent fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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89 posted:05. Big Rape - 314 points Lol
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MrSargent posted:But out of the three, Jordy is by far the most consistent and the Packets had the Cobb/Adams/Nelson trio last year and he still put up huge numbers. I would easily take Jordy for one of those three and then its almost a tossup between CJ and Green. Yeah Jordy is so drat consistent and Megatron seems to be having a lot of fluctuating years lately between his health and the Lion's various woes. Green also burned me last year in his decoy games and that game where he sat out because his arm hurt a little bit after a hit.
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Doltos posted:Pick 2 out of the 3: Calvin Johnson, A.J. Green, Jordie Nelson Megatron and Jordy. Jordy is Mr. Consistent barring catastrophic injury that could happen to anyone. I'm a big AJ Green believer, hell I traded to get him in both of my leagues last year and this year, and I'd still take Megatron over him.
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Doltos posted:Yeah Jordy is so drat consistent and Megatron seems to be having a lot of fluctuating years lately between his health and the Lion's various woes. Green also burned me last year in his decoy games and that game where he sat out because his arm hurt a little bit after a hit. Because they were hurt last year. They're healthy this year. I'm in this exact situation (picking 12th?) and have been thinking about the same question. I'm starting to lean towards Megatron and Green. They are both the undisputed #1 options in their respective offenses, are bigger and more physically talented, and have higher ceilings than Jordy. They should also still have great floors.
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Is it wrong that some part of me is annoyed that the players who are getting injured pre-drafts, like Shady and Kevlin Benjamin, are ones who I feel like were going to way under perform compared to their ADP, are injured and are now going to drop to more appropriate ADPs? So many bad players are going to miss out on taking Kelvin in the second now...
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cheese posted:Is it wrong that some part of me is annoyed that the players who are getting injured pre-drafts, like Shady and Kevlin Benjamin, are ones who I feel like were going to way under perform compared to their ADP, are injured and are now going to drop to more appropriate ADPs? So many bad players are going to miss out on taking Kelvin in the second now... So you are annoyed because you would rather better players were getting injured?
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89 posted:Here's the top 10 from those positions last year in this league: I was hoping for a comprehensive list that included all the players but this will have to do do. While there is a huge gulf between Watt and the next best available DL, you have to assume some regression. That said, I wouldn't be against taking Watt in the 2nd given how much of a gulf there was in his production compared to the next best player.
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