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Hillary still has a better chance of being president than literally anyone else.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 21:10 |
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Sanders is basically Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012 for Democrats this round. Hillary is Romney. Lots of retarded support and passion, no chance in hell of going anywhere on a national scale. Both are loving terrible choices for Democrats.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 21:36 |
Fat Ogre posted:Sanders is basically Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012 for Democrats this round. sure except they are in reality nothing alike, even in terms of their relationship with the party under which they are running also the only similarities between Hillary and Mittens are their establishment support and that they are both running out of a sense of narcissistic entitlement you probably should spend more time reading and less time sharing your retarded and puerile opinions
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 21:44 |
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Wheeee posted:Those who support Hillary should spend less time sharing their retarded and puerile opinions
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 21:49 |
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Wheeee posted:sure except they are in reality nothing alike, even in terms of their relationship with the party under which they are running Sanders supporters are just as dumb and passionate as Ron Paul supporters. It isn't even a question. Old dudes that have been politicians forever inspiring a bunch of young idiots with their crackpot ideas of how we should fix this country. Thing is Sanders is a socialist, so naturally Goons love him and give him a pass on being as much of a nut as Paul. If you don't think Bernie fans are hammering polls for Sanders like the Ron Paul idiots did, then you're denying reality plain and simple.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 21:57 |
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Fat Ogre posted:Sanders supporters are just as dumb and passionate as Ron Paul supporters. It isn't even a question. Better to dream big, than to apathetically accept a lifetime of turds.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 22:01 |
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Hillary is this elections McCain or Romney because she'll get the nomination but no one in her party is happy about her. They'll vote for her only because they don't want the GoP to win. Which means no passion and a smaller voter turnout. Basically the people voting would be those that don't want the GoP to win or really like Hillary. She's going to end up a lot like Kerry did in 2004 but at least he had the hatred of Dubya to fuel voters. She is un-liked by almost everyone (seriously people hate her as much as they hate Trump) and people honestly are hoping it is Bill behind the scenes doing everything not her. If she wasn't a former first lady no one would give a poo poo about her.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 22:05 |
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Neurolimal posted:Better to dream big, than to apathetically accept a lifetime of turds. Bernie's crew should buy a blimp!
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 22:06 |
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Fat Ogre posted:Sanders supporters are just as dumb and passionate as Ron Paul supporters. It isn't even a question. Sorry but uhh, what's crackpot between GOLD STANDARD NOW! WE SHOULD LET THEM DIE!!! and, "Oh Look, Norway has a cool and good and proven socialistic SYSTEM". A SYSTEM. Not ideology. If people pay their fair share of taxes, we get all the access of that. It is a proven model and has been a great boon to all the Scandinavian countries to the point that they're being overrun by immigrants. So free isn't exactly free because taxes. How can Americans be this myopic, seriously. If it only fits the narrative, you're willing to take it out of context. Next thing I know you'll quote Thatcher going "Socialism doesn't work because you run out of people's money" and that's retarded because that's exactly what happened with Thatcher's and Reagan's policies. The Rich are sucking up every little penny which leaves no distribution. It is also a different brand of socialism, it is called...bear with me here, big fancy words for you...Democratic Socialism, which all the countries of Scandinavian runs on. America has always borrowed european ideas and improved on it. The only difference now is after World War II, America has a warped sense of patriotism and egoism. "We're so great, we don't need to borrow the European models anymore and make it our own. They should follow OUR example instead." So uh, yea keep spewing more of that puerile poo poo. It's not good and uncool, I want to see how much of the kool-aid you got drunk on from watching your cuckservative news.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 22:12 |
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Hillary can't be the Democratic Romney because Romney was already the Republican Kerry
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 22:13 |
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Fat Ogre posted:Sanders is basically Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012 for Democrats this round. It's a very easy comparison to make if you only look at headlines. The reality is, everything Ron Paul says is wrong, while everything Bernie says is right
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 22:17 |
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Even if Bernie is the Democratic Ron Paul and I'm embarrassed by my Bernie support when I look back on it in a few years, I've thought for a while that the stranglehold the rich have on actual power in our government is the #1 most important issue facing our country today and Bernie is the most committed politician to doing something about that so it's only natural I'd support him
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 22:56 |
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Lastgirl posted:Sorry but uhh, what's crackpot between Socialism only works when you have homogenous populations. It is miserable failure once you introduce immigrants, refugees and people that don't give a poo poo about the country at large. Which is why Bernie is anti-immigration. He knows socials doesn't work when you have a portion of the population that just takes and doesn't contribute.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 23:02 |
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Fat Ogre posted:a portion of the population that just takes and doesn't contribute. That's what we have now. They're called CEOs
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 23:10 |
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Fat Ogre posted:Triggered!! Could all this be leading to a Bernie/Trump 3rd party ticket?!?!?!
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 23:14 |
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Fat Ogre posted:Triggered!! Well duh, that's why his first order is to tax the gently caress out of the rich like they deserve.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 23:30 |
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Fat Ogre posted:Triggered!! Apparently 2 reasonable counterpoints means triggered. This is definitely keeping your viewpoints credible in this discourse, because you can't seem to follow up on why Bernie and Ron Paul are alike other than some dumb blanket rhetoric. Okay, that is a thing. Well here's another TRIGGERED! with rational and reasonable counterpoints. Immigration is actually a right wing proposal. They only pretend to be anti-immigration to keep the votes. Immigration provides them cheap labor sources and while they hear American citizens whinge about "taking our jerbs" they placate those gullible fucks by standing next to them and shouting at essentially nothing while they backdoor the immigrants. You are also putting Bernie's anti-immigration out of context because of course you'd want to have that stance if you are intent on rebuilding our infrastructure and investing in jobs for actual citizens. He is against breaking up immigrant families and will look for amnesty towards them. He is also looking at ways to compromise because the current system is broken and neglected by its republican counterparts. So far Jeb!'s anchor babies statement was pretty cringeworthy because at least the Donald is making the Koch's panties wet by suckering the right wing base of workers into thinking that their interests will be served. The Donald's vague promises of a wall with a beautiful door in the middle makes the right wing scream out "FINALLY" because not like Texas republican governors were pretty focused on keeping them out in the first place right? It's not like it was neglected enough "unintentionally" so now republicans are finally owning up to it and they can do no wrong, thanks Donald. So triggered~ By the way who says that anymore, are you stuck in 2012 like some kind of fedora tipping memester? Its no surprise you're still a conservacuck sipping on the cuckservative kool-aid LGD posted:Could all this be leading to a Bernie/Trump 3rd party ticket?!?!?! Lastgirl has issued a correction as of 23:38 on Aug 19, 2015 |
# ? Aug 19, 2015 23:36 |
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They're the original Odd Couple!!!
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 23:56 |
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I'm kind of torn on how the right would deal with Sanders being President. I mean, we will see the Hitler things, sure. But he's an old white Jewish male, so it'll sort of confuse the other half who want to hang darkies and backhand bitches.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 00:29 |
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Philthy posted:I'm kind of torn on how the right would deal with Sanders being President. I mean, we will see the Hitler things, sure. But he's an old white Jewish male, so it'll sort of confuse the other half who want to hang darkies and backhand bitches. They'll freak the hell out and go all in on the Socialism, no doubt.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 00:39 |
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Thump! posted:They'll freak the hell out and go all in on the Socialism, no doubt. They won't. Polling has shown that conservative voters don't actually respond well to financial conservatism, and actually outright oppose cuts to Social Security and Medicaid. Turns out conservative voters are smarter than we thought, and just happen to be really bigoted.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 00:43 |
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can someone explain to me who hillary clinton is
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 04:47 |
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corn in the bible posted:can someone explain to me who hillary clinton is she's the ex-first lady
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 05:50 |
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is she related to socks clinton? i only know about socks clinton.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 05:51 |
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corn in the bible posted:is she related to socks clinton? i only know about socks clinton. yeah she;s basically sockses step mom, not on good terms
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 06:03 |
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lol at people taking people seriously in this thread
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 06:14 |
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hillary will be president because it turns out real life is actually boring as poo poo sorry all
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 06:19 |
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potato of destiny posted:hillary will be president because it turns out real life is actually boring as poo poo but that wouldn't be boring? it would be bad, but not boring. there are no boring options this election
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 06:22 |
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A Time To Chill posted:but that wouldn't be boring? it would be bad, but not boring. there are no boring options this election
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 06:28 |
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Only 90's kids remember Bill Clinton.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 07:13 |
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LIKE if u remember boy meets world!! SHARE if u remebmer how NAFTA wrecked the mexican economy!!
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 07:16 |
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fair point I stand corrected
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 07:44 |
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Fat Ogre posted:Triggered!! Hahaha yes ensuring the wealthy pay their fair share in taxes and adopting the healthcare system that is used by the rest of the industrialized world and is objectively cheaper and more effective than ours will surely fail because of the *other*, what a crackpot idea. You are a loving retard.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 07:57 |
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Red Pyramid posted:Hahaha yes ensuring the wealthy pay their fair share in taxes and adopting the healthcare system that is used by the rest of the industrialized world and is objectively cheaper and more effective than ours will surely fail because of the *other*, what a crackpot idea. You are a loving retard. You sound like a Ron Paul supporter all mad that no one realizes how bad the Fed is and how we should just be isolationists and stop all foreign aid. Any U.S. citizen that loves socialized single payer medicine should go join the military. The VA is what you can expect single payer to look like here in the states. Have fun with that.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 12:26 |
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Something Else posted:yeah she;s basically sockses step mom, not on good terms rest in peace, socks. you were better than we deserved...
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 14:03 |
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there would be nothing boring about the presidency of Martin "lock 'em all up" O'Malley. He'd probably deputize half of us and tell us to arrest the other half.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 14:31 |
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The only thing Sanders supporters have in common with Paul supporters (well, except for a loud internet presence) is how insanely easy it is to troll them.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 14:53 |
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Fat Ogre posted:Any U.S. citizen that loves socialized single payer medicine should go join the military. The VA is what you can expect single payer to look like here in the states. Have fun with that. Probably more like Medicaid. Soldiers or not, VA is somebody else's problem. Problems with your health care are your problem, and nothing gets voters out like their own economic and physical well-being.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 15:22 |
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Fat Ogre posted:You sound like a Ron Paul supporter all mad that no one realizes how bad the Fed is and how we should just be isolationists and stop all foreign aid. Have fun being executed.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 16:47 |
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# ? Jun 6, 2024 07:16 |
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Fat Ogre posted:Sanders is basically Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012 for Democrats this round. Hillary is Romney. Except Bernie has a good voting track record and isn't a insane gold loving gently caress stick.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 20:04 |