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Does the wiki have a way of flagging pages/fits that are out of date? Like, I know that poo poo is pretty common on wikis generally, but maybe if someone made an easy PRESS THIS BUTTON IF poo poo ON THIS PAGE IS OUT OF DATE alert at the top, it would help to better identify pages that at least could use some cleanup.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 07:04 |
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Thanks reddit
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mikey posted:There have actually been a lot of changes to the game over the last year or two that break tons of fits and render many more not worth using. Even if you're good at figuring out metacide module substitutions, there are a bunch of hulls that were relevant very recently that are not anymore, and vice-versa. This has pretty much always been the case, so any fitting that sits around on the wiki for more than a year is probably not going to be something you ever want to use. One of the big changes we've been making to the wiki is back end work to metatag fits and modules and link them via api so that stuff is automatically updated and or flagged if it breaks. Unfortunately work like that isn't obvious or sexy so every few months we get a spike of concern about the state of the wiki that never seems to translate into much of an increase in the number of good mediawiki savy editors plugging away. Luckily a lot of this stuff is about to start paying dividends and we have some more high visibility changes to the way pages are organized and accessed that will be rolled out "soon". In short, the wiki is worlds better than it was in terms of usability and maintenance, but all that heavy lifting had to be done before we could focus on content.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 07:12 |
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OpticalRape posted:
Is that you Jared from Subway?
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 07:13 |
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CommonShore posted:Does the wiki have a way of flagging pages/fits that are out of date? Like, I know that poo poo is pretty common on wikis generally, but maybe if someone made an easy PRESS THIS BUTTON IF poo poo ON THIS PAGE IS OUT OF DATE alert at the top, it would help to better identify pages that at least could use some cleanup. When confluence was a thing the wiki was pretty much left to rot, and missed out on years of innovations like these. After confluence got headshot and focus shifted back to the wiki a core group of editors have been slowly dragging it kicking and screaming into the modern era. Reagalan is responsible in large part for getting the ball rolling, but the current head of the project Kyalla Ahashion is an unsung goon hero who does not get enough credit.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 07:23 |
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Special pages. When I was about to join the waffe, someone mentioned furtively, "the wiki has several...special pages." Is there something about them, or was the guy just incredibly awkward in person.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 07:38 |
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I update wiki pages here and there. Mostly fixing out of date ship and module stats. I have added a few current fits as well. When I was a newbee I spent countless hours just browsing the wiki. There were many interesting pages about historical events, alliance histories, eve politics and other things. It really is a shame the wiki has deteriorated to the point it has. I even found a few pages that referred to the current alliance name as SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO. I try to fix things like that when I see them. I will continue to help out when I can. I am a sucker for educational material, even if it is about a stupid space video game.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 07:47 |
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Delta Echo posted:Special pages. When I was about to join the waffe, someone mentioned furtively, "the wiki has several...special pages." https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Lobby_crew Special Page.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 07:54 |
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CainFortea posted:https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Lobby_crew oh. OH.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 08:13 |
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Delta Echo posted:oh. Yeeeah. Honestly a lot of that poo poo should be quarantined, but also preserved for posterity. Like Ben Smash's rear end tattoo, we really shouldn't be allowed to forget our poor decisions.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 08:48 |
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https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Russian
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 09:29 |
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THIS IS THE BEST WIKI PAGE. I wish you were a slab of butter melting over me as a stack of flap Jacks or w.e that one is. I did a lot of diplomacy with that when we evicted WNdot
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 10:17 |
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My browser auto-completes "ru" to this. It's a lot of fun when hunting ratters.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 10:23 |
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If anyone would like something to be added there - pm me with your request. Finally I found something I can be useful in
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 10:24 |
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CommonShore posted:Does the wiki have a way of flagging pages/fits that are out of date? Like, I know that poo poo is pretty common on wikis generally, but maybe if someone made an easy PRESS THIS BUTTON IF poo poo ON THIS PAGE IS OUT OF DATE alert at the top, it would help to better identify pages that at least could use some cleanup. Apart from being linked badly (the page kind of links to Recon Ships as a type, but you also get there from a squad/SIG overview), this page shows the usual "This article is out of date" warning, so this definitely exists: https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Recon edit: There is even a category for these: https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Category:Out_of_date_articles edit2: Looking around a bit more, it seems these warnings are implemented as templates, specifically this: https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Template:Out_of_date -- You can see it added to an article here, alongside a basic template (Basic combat) by adding it to the very first line: code:
Hollow Talk fucked around with this message at 11:45 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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tmc dotte com posted:Inertia Stabilized Titan Destroyed in Lowsec Why? I mean having Xenuria write a single piece about his crippling autism is already borderline unexcusable (though it does provide another opportunity to laugh at him), but making him a regular writer? I can only conclude that TMC has realised it's poo poo and is intentionally taking the piss now . suck my woke dick fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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Doc Friday posted:Should the page for Eve-Mail Etiquette include an explanation on setting the CSPA charge to zero? CCP changed the CSPA defaults with a recent patch and now it is 0 by default. At the time of the patch, CCP also set all CSPA values to 0. So now, the only way one can get CSPA charge active is that going to the settings and entering any value other than 0.
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blowfish posted:Why? What's more upsetting is that Xenuria a few weeks back did the only after-battle report I could call vaguely on time that I've ever seen on the site. When Xenuria is one of the better writers, you know you're in the poo poo.
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Other than his penchant for throwing arbitrary words at his thesaurus, Xenuria actually tends to be an unironically good writer. Compared to some of the OG writers he's not super, but he's definitely above-par.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 14:14 |
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for a while i tried to mark pages that i was updating with tags that said "Current as of $RELEASE" but then
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 14:17 |
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ChickenWing posted:Other than his penchant for throwing arbitrary words at his thesaurus, Xenuria actually tends to be an unironically good writer. Compared to some of the OG writers he's not super, but he's definitely above-par. Well no-one can be worse than Siaka. E: well, their writing style is fine, they just never bother to research anything in their articles. e2: What happened to the good writers of old? Alikchi, FLT, and others? DarkMalfunction fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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Glory of Arioch posted:for a while i tried to mark pages that i was updating with tags that said "Current as of $RELEASE" but then I think this is a good idea. I'm sure there are better ways to do this, but I have just added a template that lets you simply put {{Last updated |$RELEASE}} in order to show an info box above the article. That way, you can manually indicate when your information was up-to-date. edit: As an example: {{Last updated |Aegis_Sovereignty}} or, since I just added anchorencode to the template, {{Last updated |Aegis Sovereignty}} Hollow Talk fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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DarkMalfunction posted:Well no-one can be worse than Siaka. What good is exceptional writers when there's nothing noteworthy happening in Eve to write about?
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 15:16 |
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Voyager I posted:It would literally be a race among online capswarm pilots to see who could get a Titan there fastest for the Doomsday. A doomsday is what you're going to need. Voyager I posted:
You're assuming the ship has to fight at all. All this one has to do is tank like a space wombat (with almost as much EHP as a POCO, that shouldn't be hard) while its escorts do the fighting. Any entosis ship that is not an interceptor (or exceedingly cleverly fitted) is going to need some kind of fire support to aggro the defending fleet while the entosis link does its thing. Voyager I posted:But y'know what, I'm probably wrong. You should bring your Etosis Dread out one day and show us what it's really capable of. Hey, man, stranger things have happened.
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You can't be this stupid, this is so wrong you actually have to know what you're doing to so incorrectly fit a dread. This has to be a joke. 1001 Arabian dicks fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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ScreamingLlama posted:A doomsday is what you're going to need. Why not just bring a bloody Chimera with 1.1m more EHP, drones, and the usual highslot modules for when you are not entosising (remote shield rep/remote cap transfer, cyno, T2 drone link augmentor)? edit: I'm talking about a fully T2 fitted Chimera here with 3x PDSII, nothing fancy, deadspace-ish or some such. avatarinwin posted:
I want to believe! Hollow Talk fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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avatarinwin posted:
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 15:51 |
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there's no way this isn't a joke. but doesn't using an entosis link use the same mechanics as a scripted HIC point or siege in that you can't have remote assistance for the module activation duration?
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 15:56 |
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whats resistances precious
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 15:57 |
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Glory of Arioch posted:whats resistances precious What's flat armor HP?
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 16:15 |
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Glory of Arioch posted:whats resistances precious it has a reactive armour hardener, which dynamically adjusts resistances for armour, and adaptive invuln for shield resists reading comprehension fail Ptylerdactyl posted:there's no way this isn't a joke. Pretty sure that's the case, which is why I didn't bother with remote anything. This dread fit is meant for sov warfare and nothing else.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 16:20 |
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ScreamingLlama posted:This dread fit is FYP
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 16:34 |
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 16:37 |
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ScreamingLlama posted:it has a reactive armour hardener, which dynamically adjusts resistances for armour, and adaptive invuln for shield resists Guys he pays attention only if you whisper it to him. His repeated aspie meltdowns in other threads taught me this.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 16:38 |
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Are you still trying to convince someone that you're funny? Doesn't appear to be working.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 16:38 |
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When does attention-seeking behavior become attention-seeking existence?
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 16:40 |
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Insurance fraud, folks.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 16:42 |
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ScreamingLlama posted:it has a reactive armour hardener, which dynamically adjusts resistances for armour, and adaptive invuln for shield resists what the hell, ill bite soaks 1 DD soaks 2 DDs your fit: soaks none looks like I win scrub
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ullerrm posted:Insurance fraud, folks. I wish he would try and fail at it.
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Glory of Arioch posted:what the hell, ill bite You do realize you just betrayed goonswarm, right? I'm sure plenty of corps would love to know the optimal way to take goon sov. Thank you for serving up Deklein on a platter.
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