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Kinda goes to show how ridiculous a fanbase can get. Didn't stuff like this happen with Retsupurae too?
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A few times yeah. It's part of the reason they don't do their namesake much anymore. On top of that Youtube has changed a lot since they started and who knows how people will misconstrue a parody video these days, especially with facecams being the rule and not the exception. It's hard to say if you could technically file under harassment if sombodies actual fave is there on the screen or not. Although i do kind of miss the days when anybody that got RP'd usually answeres with some kind of death threat since they didnt know much better 
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Golden Goat posted:Kinda goes to show how ridiculous a fanbase can get. Didn't stuff like this happen with Retsupurae too? There was a bit of a stink a couple years ago (2013 I think?) because apparently a woman who got RP'd in something like 2008 was still getting occasional harrasment years later on her deviant art and other places.
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What do ya'll think of this? Konami approved it and is giving a review copy to "GameOverGreggy" - who doesn't seem to do much in terms of Let's Play (he even calls it "Let's Plays" here) to do... well, something like two weeks before release. He's clarified that he's only doing up through mission 5. I'll say I wasn't a fan of the idea, but curious to what others think.
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Aug 20, 2015 14:10
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Personally I'm just surprised it took this long for a producer to try it.
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 The video quality on their let's plays look fine. Probably overdoing it by having it every day. Honestly don't know if this is a good experiment for using LPs as advertisement before a release.
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Golden Goat posted:The video quality on their let's plays look fine. Probably overdoing it by having it every day. One weird thing; I don't know if they know what a Let's Play is - they have an 18-minute LP of Battletoads, a 24-minute LP of Volume. I guess this is kind of like a Quick Look? Is this the biggest person Konami could find (Greg Miller used to work for IGN) that hadn't slagged them off on social media?
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Aug 20, 2015 14:24
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They don't, but i'm not gonna argue about "what is a let's play" beyond saying at it's base it's playing video games to entertain others. slowbeef posted:Is this the biggest person Konami could find (Greg Miller used to work for IGN) that hadn't slagged them off on social media?
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Golden Goat posted:They don't, but i'm not gonna argue about "what is a let's play" beyond saying at it's base it's playing video games to entertain others. Oh sure. I just think it's odd, because there's all the Day 1 LPs, and now there's like a "Two Weeks Pre-Release" kind of deal that's not really an LP, but it's using the name. Plus it's Konami which is super trigger happy on copyright strikes/claims on LPs, YouTube videos who are getting out of the business anyway. So, they buying back PR? Or... I don't know. It's a marketing tactic of some variety, and maybe there's nothing more to it?
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Aug 20, 2015 15:25
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I sure they're just calling it a LP cause it's popular and will draw attention. Kind of like a "Hey you cool kids like X, right? Well check this dope poo poo out!" thing. I doubt you can really do a pre-release LP because I doubt the developer want you to ruin the whole game before it releases. Konami have basically dragged their name through mud so i'd be more surprised if they did nothing to try and win people over. This definitely stinks of them wanting to win people back.
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The last post raised two questions in my mind: A LP doesn't necessarily need to be complete to qualify as such, does it? It's expected that they do, but it's not really obligatory, right? And what has Konami done to ruin its reputation like that? I really need to find a way to keep abreast of gaming news...
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paradoxGentleman posted:And what has Konami done to ruin its reputation like that? I really need to find a way to keep abreast of gaming news... Ask Kojima. E: Also going "Hey check out the pre-lp (pronounced prelip) of MGS5!" just makes me think more about how they've poorly handled the whole Kojima thing. Golden Goat fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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Aug 20, 2015 15:46
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paradoxGentleman posted:And what has Konami done to ruin its reputation like that? I really need to find a way to keep abreast of gaming news... http://www.geek.com/games/the-only-thing-konami-hates-more-than-you-is-silent-hill-1630257/ quote:
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paradoxGentleman posted:A LP doesn't necessarily need to be complete to qualify as such, does it? It's expected that they do, but it's not really obligatory, right? Nah, not really. It's not the first time a company's used LP for marketing. I remember hearing about how NoE did an 8 or so part LP of Xenoblade to promote that game and then invited fans to do their own too. paradoxGentleman posted:A LP doesn't necessarily need to be complete to qualify as such, does it? It's expected that they do, but it's not really obligatory, right? Let me tell you about a little something called EROTIC VIOLENCE.
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Keeshhound posted:http://www.geek.com/games/the-only-thing-konami-hates-more-than-you-is-silent-hill-1630257/ Let's be fair, the pachinko machine was the rock bottom. Konami's been treating Silent Hill like poo poo for ages now. I think axing Kojima really solidified how lovely they are.
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Oddly enough I was looking up Let's Play and other terminology on the wikipedias after trying to figure out who GameOverGreggy was. It's entirely possible that a lot of SA LPs are actually Longplays, since most of them aim to finish the game while showing off as much as possible. Just Longplays with commentary, I suppose. That seems to be the big difference. Also since I'm not much of a jokeman in my solo LPs I could be part of that. PART OF THE PROBLEM HERE BOYS, NO NEED TO THANK ME.
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paradoxGentleman posted:The last post raised two questions in my mind: Here, paradox, this will explain everything https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uphcEJW-MDA
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dscruffy1 posted:It's entirely possible that a lot of SA LPs are actually Longplays, since most of them aim to finish the game while showing off as much as possible. Actually, I think most folks outside consider LP to mean "whole game with commentary." (Longplays are usually no-commentary) I'm not saying you can't "Let's Play Stage 1 Only" or what have you, just that when you say "I'm going to LP a game!" most folks here and outside think "I'm going to record a video game playthrough and caption/narrate it to explain context, be funny, whatever."
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Here an LP is "I (usually) know this game and I'm going to show it off" on youtube it tends to mean "anything from blind bumbling to smooth runs"
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drat, that really is a shame. They could at least sell their IPs if they are not willing to use them for anything more substantial than Pachinko machine, I'm sure it would get them a lot more money.watho posted:Here, paradox, this will explain everything I appreciate this guy's thoroughness, but I always get a shiver of worry whenever I read "hardcore gamer" anywhere.
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paradoxGentleman posted:drat, that really is a shame. They could at least sell their IPs if they are not willing to use them for anything more substantial than Pachinko machine, I'm sure it would get them a lot more money. They make billions of dollars from the gambling industry in Japan, far more than gaming, which is why they have been moving away from it. From a business perspective I get it, from a gamer perspective it really sucks. They own a couple of my all time favorite franchises (Suikoden being #1 on that list)
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slowbeef posted:What do ya'll think of this? Isn't that the site that was made by the hilariously lovely editors from IGN that got fired? I'd find it lovely if they DMCA'd people who were doing LPs but not those guys, then again YouTube has their system abused all the time so I'd not really be surprised.
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Oh yeah, now I remember where I heard that name before. It led to this ridiculous image:
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Could be worse, they could give it to someone who has no idea about Metal Gear so we get a lot of "Big Boss? I thought his name was Solid Snake? And where's Otacon?"
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bobjr posted:Could be worse, they could give it to someone who has no idea about Metal Gear so we get a lot of "Big Boss? I thought his name was Solid Snake? And where's Otacon?" So...DarkSydePhil?
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Unfunny Poster posted:So...DarkSydePhil? Well, if it were DSP, he'd just forget about the "till mission 5" limit, go WAY over that thanks to his program that cuts and renders his videos for him, and constantly become bewildered when they all get taken down. Or just not know how to use a review copy, thinking it needs to go into his VCR or something.
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Phil and Konami could probably bond over mutual dislike of Kojima.
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HGH posted:Oh yeah, now I remember where I heard that name before. It led to this ridiculous image: "This has been my book report on Dead Space. I hope you liked reading my book report on Dead Space." (Was Greggy the article-writer or was he the red pen?)
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The writer, the corrector guy was an angry english teacher I think.
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One of the other guys from that new site was the dude from IGN who went on a rant about how during the Mass Effect 3 thing people upset with the ending were just being entitled shits etc. in one of the more douchey ways people were saying it at the time.
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Unfunny Poster posted:So...DarkSydePhil? DSP has lost his ability to stream from copyright claims, so he'll be lucky if he even gets the ability to poo poo on Kojima. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6JTbEQmbE8
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slowbeef posted:What do ya'll think of this? I dislike the idea. The initial announcement didn't even specify how long he would play or if he would cut content. And then you have people on sites like reddit wondering if the "LPer" is going to skip cutscenes and important conversations because spoilers. Is he going to show off more than what we've seen from gameplay demos? Probably not, and certainly not performed as effortlessly as we have seen previously. I wouldn't be surprised if he showed off much less content than the demos, which begs the question why bother to begin with. In a way, it feels like opening a gift early. It feels great and you're excited about it, but it takes away something from the gift as well. Although, that might just be me. In any case, I'll be keeping my blinders on until the 1st where I will enjoy it to its fullest.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:In a way, it feels like opening a gift early. It feels great and you're excited about it, but it takes away something from the gift as well. Although, that might just be me. Opening a gift early gets you the gift. This is like opening said gift, licking the box, then wrapping it back up and waiting for the promised day.
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TaurusOxford posted:DSP has lost his ability to stream from copyright claims, so he'll be lucky if he even gets the ability to poo poo on Kojima.  So now that is Blip.TV, Twitch.tv, (Hibox?), and YouTube that he's been banned from.
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Genocyber posted:Opening a gift early gets you the gift. This is like opening said gift, licking the box, then wrapping it back up and waiting for the promised day. Hahaha very true.
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Unfunny Poster posted:
Tbf to dsp (not something I thought I'd ever say) this one looks like it's not actually on him. Which is the real surprise, I think.
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Yeah, if you could find a way to harness how much youtube rolls over at the slightest hint of a copyright claim, you could power the entire western hemisphere.
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In completely unrelated stuff with the DSP/MGS V thing, I just found out someone has been taking some of my videos and re-uploading them in-full to their YouTube channel.
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revolver ocelot
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Unfunny Poster posted:In completely unrelated stuff with the DSP/MGS V thing, I just found out someone has been taking some of my videos and re-uploading them in-full to their YouTube channel. Oooh, I wanna hear how this turns out
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