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Dahbadu
Aug 22, 2004

Reddit has helpfully advised me that I look like a "15 year old fortnite boi"

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

the castros are currently climbing the establishment ladder, not sure why sanders would pick them

There's plenty of establishment dems that are good candidates and probably good or decent people. Just because Bernie is not of the establishment doesn't mean he's not going to pick someone who has been trying to make progress within it.

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fronz
Apr 7, 2009



Lipstick Apathy
the one castro has an eerily big smile.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Dahbadu posted:

If Bernie is able to win the nom, I think Bernie will pick someone he feels he can trust and work with, is charismatic, and a strong debater/speaker. I have no clue who that is.

Taking out the most important factor of "does Bernie trust this person," tapping one of these guys may be a smart thing:



"President Castro of the US met with President Castro of Cuba to discuss trade relations. Meanwhile, Vice President Castro went to a reelection fundraising event hosted at the Castro district, in San Francisco."

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster

gently caress You And Diebold posted:

Sanders/Castro into a Castro/Castro ticket

"Mr. President, here is your daily briefing."
"I'm not the President. I'm the Vice President."
"Excuse me, sir, Mr. Vice President."
"lol no I'm really the President."

Dahbadu
Aug 22, 2004

Reddit has helpfully advised me that I look like a "15 year old fortnite boi"

PT6A posted:

Oh man, Jeb is getting his poo poo pushed in at this press conference. He's never, ever going to be the nominee.

What I think is so interesting about Jeb's flame out is that he's raised a bunch of PAC money (and has probably spent a bunch too). Although billionaires have more money than they'll ever need, a lot of them are cheapskates. When they start realizing they're throwing money away, they're going to stop giving it. I'm not sure that point is reached yet -- I think the establishment will make a couple of last ditch efforts to take out Trump. The problem is, giving to the candidates (' Super PACs) isn't going to do this.

Edit:

Also, this theoretical point where donors realize they're wasting money giving to loser candidates may also be further away than any rational smart money man would determine. Self-delusion and desperation may extend this out to the very end. It's whenever the fear of wasting money outweighs the fear of Trump.

Dahbadu fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Aug 20, 2015

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.
Sleep deprivation is a hell of a thing. For the last two pages I've been thinking Hillary's communication director was chazz palminteri.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

the castros are currently climbing the establishment ladder, not sure why sanders would pick them

well who else would he pick? Warren is probably the best pick ideology wise but abandoning a senate seat for VP is p stupid and she hopefully wouldn't do it

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Dahbadu posted:

What I think is so interesting about Jeb's flame out is that he's raised a bunch of PAC money (and has probably spent a bunch too). Although billionaires have more money than they'll ever need, a lot of them are cheapskates. When they start realizing they're throwing money away, they're going to stop giving it. I'm not sure that point is reached yet -- I think the establishment will make a couple of last ditch efforts to take out Trump. The problem is, giving to the candidates (' Super PACs) isn't going to do this.

Isn't that the advantage of a PAC, though? They have the money, it's disconnected from an individual campaign, all they have to do is start supporting a different candidate, or lobby for specific policies, or whatever.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Mirthless posted:

10% of our population is hispanic, 8% of our population is black, 10% of our population is native American, all pretty heavily Democratic voting blocks. Where are they at election time? Are you saying 100% of our white population votes Republican?

Leftists in Oklahoma just don't vote. That's the truth.

Assuming that every minority votes Democratic, 70% white vote would do it. Last exit polls I could find were from 2008, where McCain won with 71% white vote. There really aren't enough leftists in Oklahoma to matter, even if they all vote.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Feather posted:

The man's smart and savvy. Hillary may be smart and a good policy wonk, but she's a terrible politician in many respects.

She's also a great politician in many respects, what with her institutional party support.

Bob Ojeda
Apr 15, 2008

I AM A WHINY LITTLE EMOTIONAL BITCH BABY WITH NO SENSE OF HUMOR

IF YOU SEE ME POSTING REMIND ME TO SHUT THE FUCK UP

Montasque posted:

I'm still trying to process the fact that Trump supporters beat up a homeless Hispanic man in Boston, and Trump's response was "I have passionate fans."

I'm not sure this is getting enough play, honestly. It's deeply screwed up and scary.

TK-42-1 posted:

Is it a given that one of the Castros is going to be the veep pick? That ball has been rolling for a few years now but I don't really hear much of it outside of 'this would be a good idea.'

I'm honestly not sure whether there's any evidence for that at all, outside of the fantasies and dreams of D&D and a few other similar places online

OAquinas posted:

Sleep deprivation is a hell of a thing. For the last two pages I've been thinking Hillary's communication director was chazz palminteri.

would probably have done a better job tbh

Dahbadu
Aug 22, 2004

Reddit has helpfully advised me that I look like a "15 year old fortnite boi"

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Isn't that the advantage of a PAC, though? They have the money, it's disconnected from an individual campaign, all they have to do is start supporting a different candidate, or lobby for specific policies, or whatever.

Yeah, that's an advantage. But a lot of this money is going PACs that are really all about a candidate, and not some general purpose American Crossroads thing. The fact that Repubs also seem to burn through campaign money and in general there's a more FYGM attitude among them and the apparatus surrounding them, I don't think a lot of this money is going to go to some GOP "greater good". Maybe some of these candidates' will keep the money in their PACs for future elections, or for another try at the Presidency. I could be wrong, though.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.


In chess notation, it matters which way around you put the punctuation marks. !? indicates "an interesting move that may not be best", while ?! indicates "a dubious move – one which may turn out to be bad". The difference is sometimes subtle, but still real. Exclamation point first ("interesting move") is generally the better of the two.

So should we standardize on Jeb!? or Jeb?! with this in mind?

This is important. We have to be sure about this.

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax

Raskolnikov38 posted:

well who else would he pick? Warren is probably the best pick ideology wise but abandoning a senate seat for VP is p stupid and she hopefully wouldn't do it

Dennis Q Cinich.

BioThermo
Feb 18, 2014

Raskolnikov38 posted:

well who else would he pick? Warren is probably the best pick ideology wise but abandoning a senate seat for VP is p stupid and she hopefully wouldn't do it

Vice President Angela Davis.

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

Raskolnikov38 posted:

well who else would he pick?

the spectre of communism

Adenoid Dan
Mar 8, 2012

The Hobo Serenader
Lipstick Apathy

Powered Descent posted:

In chess notation, it matters which way around you put the punctuation marks. !? indicates "an interesting move that may not be best", while ?! indicates "a dubious move – one which may turn out to be bad". The difference is sometimes subtle, but still real. Exclamation point first ("interesting move") is generally the better of the two.

So should we standardize on Jeb!? or Jeb?! with this in mind?

This is important. We have to be sure about this.

Jeb D:

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret

Powered Descent posted:

In chess notation, it matters which way around you put the punctuation marks. !? indicates "an interesting move that may not be best", while ?! indicates "a dubious move – one which may turn out to be bad". The difference is sometimes subtle, but still real. Exclamation point first ("interesting move") is generally the better of the two.

So should we standardize on Jeb!? or Jeb?! with this in mind?

This is important. We have to be sure about this.
What is the punctuation for a really predictable move that is also bad?

Kylra
Dec 1, 2006

Not a cute boy, just a boring girl.
...

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

pangstrom posted:

What is the punctuation for a really predictable move that is also bad?

??

Fittingly enough it's know as a blunder

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Tricky D posted:

Marco Rubio wants to help single mothers by eliminating the EITC.


In this scenario, Danielle is a single mother of two who makes $9.50 an hour.

quote:

And then there’s his receptionist, we’ll call her Danielle. David has been her boss for five years — he knows her kids, he cares about her, and he’s proud to pay her $9.50 an hour, which is more than minimum wage.

proud to pay her a whopping $2.25 over the minimum wage after working for him for FIVE YEARS.

I don't really get it, Rubio wants to replace to EITC with a program to just give people extra money from the government if they work? Is he advocating a guaranteed minimum income for employed people, at least those with dependents? How will he pay for this dirty socialism?

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Bob Ojeda posted:

I'm not sure this is getting enough play, honestly. It's deeply screwed up and scary.


With all the xenophobic and racist rhetoric being thrown around this was only a matter of time. Maybe because it was Boston, but people don't seem that phased by this. I guess it will only take a Trump inspired murder to really get people to pay attention to his 'passionate fans'.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Jeb :sigh:

Xenophon
Jun 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Grimey Drawer
just call him Bush, I hate that his One Simple Trick to get people not to say that word works so well

AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord

AARP LARPer fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Jan 22, 2016

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



Lipstick Apathy
Jeb Bush, Son, Father, and Brother of George Bush

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe
Jeb defends his use of the term "anchor babies":

quote:

Jeb Bush on Thursday said he doesn’t think the term “anchor babies” is offensive, wading further into the controversial debate over birthright citizenship that was sparked by Donald Trump.

“Give me another word” than “anchor babies,” he challenged while speaking at a press conference in Keene, New Hampshire Thursday.

Dahbadu
Aug 22, 2004

Reddit has helpfully advised me that I look like a "15 year old fortnite boi"

Do Not Resuscitate posted:

I agree, but I do wonder how they can possibly accomplish this.

Somehow managing to influence a consensus of sensationalist opinion shapers in the right wind media, and keeping them influenced. If they're able to turn the fear machine on Trump, they can beat Trump.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

DaveWoo posted:

Jeb defends his use of the term "anchor babies":

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.

And that's why Jeb is destined to win the rake-off.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

DaveWoo posted:

Jeb defends his use of the term "anchor babies":

how about 'american citizens' you shithead jeb

e: beaten by hillary! :arghfist:

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


uh, trump clearly stands for things

1. a big, beautiful wall
2. deporting mexicans, but the good ones can come back
3. obamacare sucks, as does obama and socialism
4. universal healthcare, but private
5. our leaders are losers
6. im a good negotiator
7. the wall will be paid for by mexico because im a negotiator
8. our trade deals are bad, i will renegotiate them because im a negotiator, i wrote art of the deal
9. we have to take care of people who need help
10. chinese are great people, i love the chinese, but they are the worst and they are destroying us
11. same with mexico, japan
12. Make America Great Again
13. jeb bush said skin in the game, why didnt we take the muslims oil?

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

Zelder posted:

Sanders as VP would be wasting Sanders.

Sanders as POTUS would be wasting Sanders.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.


And Hillary finally lands a timely burn.

Beats the hell out of hemming and hawing for three weeks while running potential replies through her focus groups.

Tricky D
Apr 1, 2005

I love um!

my bony fealty posted:

proud to pay her a whopping $2.25 over the minimum wage after working for him for FIVE YEARS.

I don't really get it, Rubio wants to replace to EITC with a program to just give people extra money from the government if they work? Is he advocating a guaranteed minimum income for employed people, at least those with dependents? How will he pay for this dirty socialism?

He's taking about 5 grand from her tax refund and hoping no one notices.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Mirthless posted:

That's 30%. Whites aren't 100% Republican, even here.

Minorities aren't 100% Democrat, either.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Chantilly Say posted:

Sanders as POTUS would be wasting Sanders.

lol

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


i think "sanders winning the presidency would be bad for sanders and the left" is possibly the dumbest anti-sanders argument yet

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Chantilly Say posted:

Sanders as POTUS would be wasting Sanders.

Sanders for SCOTUSGrand Emperor!

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OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.
Jeb thinks encryption is of the debil!

Dubya really was the smart one. I can't even.

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