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Magres posted:If you haven't played it, check out Helldivers on PS3/PS4. It's basically Starship Troopers, the game. When you hose down enemies with your gun your dude shouts the cheesiest one liners like "HAVE A CLIPFUL OF LIBERTY!" "THIS ONE'S FOR FREEDOM!" "TASTE DEMOCRACY!" This sounds like an amazing game.
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MariusLecter posted:I support repealing Birthright Citizenship if it means NO ONE is a citizen when born and can only be earned through service and fighting giant space bugs. I'm pretty down.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 21:22 |
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Magres posted:If you haven't played it, check out Helldivers on PS3/PS4. It's basically Starship Troopers, the game. When you hose down enemies with your gun your dude shouts the cheesiest one liners like "HAVE A CLIPFUL OF LIBERTY!" "THIS ONE'S FOR FREEDOM!" "TASTE DEMOCRACY!" I shall seek out a lets play immediately. Mister Macys posted:The only difference between Starship Troopers (the movie), and the current GOP, is that the Republicans don't think women should be allowed to serve in the military.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 21:32 |
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Matt Walsh talks some more about Josh Duggar:Very religious married man with cool tattoos posted:I'm not too proud to admit when I was wrong. So, yes, I was wrong about the Duggar situation. If you recall, several months ago it was revealed that Josh Duggar, the oldest son in the "19 Kids and Counting" clan, sexually abused his sisters when he was 13 or 14 years old. This revelation was used by many anti-Christian folks as a way to "prove" that all Christians are hypocrites and the whole "family values" thing is a shame, etc.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 21:51 |
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Every time I hear somebody screaming about the millions and millions of illegals here I always ask them one simple question; how do you deport 10,000,000 people? Actually anytime between the annexation of California and other Mexican territory and up until the 1950s this was standard operating procedure. Yes, even for the second and third generation Mexican-Americans.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 21:53 |
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quote:I'm not too proud to admit when I was wrong. So, yes, I was wrong about the Duggar situation. If you recall, several months ago it was revealed that Josh Duggar, the oldest son in the "19 Kids and Counting" clan, sexually abused his sisters when he was 13 or 14 years old. This revelation was used by many anti-Christian folks as a way to "prove" that all Christians are hypocrites and the whole "family values" thing is a shame, etc. The entire surface of the United States should have exploded into a fiery hellscape over the irony contained within that statement. I also love that this fucker needed proof of adultery in order to denouce Josh Dugger.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 21:58 |
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Klaus88 posted:
Matt Walsh posted:liberal outrage over sexual abuse seems to be rather selective and insincere. we're gonna need a bigger irony meter
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 22:03 |
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:Matt Walsh talks some more about Josh Duggar: Summary: I know he molested children, but this adultery with consenting adults is a bridge too far!
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 22:28 |
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:He went from sexual abuser to serial adulterer. Way to present adultery as worse than child molestation, Matt.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 23:40 |
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Spun Dog posted:Summary: I know he molested children, but this adultery with consenting adults is a bridge too far! And it's sorta liberal's fault for criticising the Duggars for protecting a peadophile. Not because of the terrible child endangerment of course, but because they were Christian. Thereby forcing Matt to defend them.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 23:56 |
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"We live in a sick world, everyone. And Christ is the only medicine." The problem is, it doesn't seem to be more so about the "World" in this situation. Josh Duggar was raised in an extremely christian household. His "knowledge" of the "World" is extremely limited. This is a man that probably didn't listen to mainstream music, didn't watch television or didn't see mainstream movies. He was likely homeschooled in the "ACE" type of environment. The "World" is a non-factor here. What wound up doing him in was a very weird interpretation of the bible that seems to treat women as non-factors and treats sex as some weird forbidden fruit that should never be done outside of a boring form of a wedding. "The Bible" in the way it was presented, was the problem Matt.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 23:57 |
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Chantilly Say posted:I'm pretty down. Would you like to hear more?
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 00:04 |
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They said gay marriage would destroy the institution of marriage. Between Fogel and Dugger it seems like that prediction totally came true. Checkmate, libtards.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 00:15 |
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Shbobdb posted:They said gay marriage would destroy the institution of marriage. Between Fogel and Dugger it seems like that prediction totally came true. Checkmate, libtards. This Ashley Madison leak is going to be amazing. Er. Amazing-er.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 00:49 |
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Didn't you know the real scandal is that AM was used by the homosexual in countries where homosexuality is punishable by death? While you are busy scoring political points crowing at a man like Dugger making mistakes, real people are losing lives. This is just one of many examples of liberals being soft on the muscleman. Why are you celebrating Dugger's downfall while homosexuals are being uncovered and killed in Tehran? Why do you support coddling the Iranian regime?
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 00:57 |
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Mister Macys posted:The only difference between Starship Troopers (the movie), and the current GOP, is that the Republicans don't think women should be allowed to serve in the military. That and like 90% of citizenship was earned via non-military service(this was an important but not often mentioned point due to the focus of the novel, most people just did 2 years of civil service jobs instead). The right just likes to fetishize Starship Troopers as a ideal where the citizens exists to serve the military/government, not the other way around.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 01:31 |
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pentyne posted:That and like 90% of citizenship was earned via non-military service(this was an important but not often mentioned point due to the focus of the novel, most people just did 2 years of civil service jobs instead). The right just likes to fetishize Starship Troopers as a ideal where the citizens exists to serve the military/government, not the other way around. Yeah and the character chooses the military service route anyway because he's kind of a gently caress up, iirc.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 01:45 |
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Nintendo Kid posted:Yeah and the character chooses the military service route anyway because he's kind of a gently caress up, iirc. It's been a long time since I read the book, and the movie treatment has infected my awareness of it so I can't remember what was Heinlein and what was "FASCISM IS ACTUALLY loving TERRIBLE" from Verhoeven and the sequels. On a side note, the last in the Starship Troopers trilogy has, among other things, a bunch of Christians being executed for daring to oppose the government. There is also the head of the Sky Fleet who is basically an idol singer who records stirring patriotic ballads that are major pop hits, and literal copies of Nazi SS uniforms for the intel agents. By the end, there's a shadowy government meeting where they acknowledge that Christianity is becoming more and more popular, so they make it the official religion in order to control it to suit their agenda. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIsv1YOFNys
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pentyne posted:It's been a long time since I read the book, and the movie treatment has infected my awareness of it so I can't remember what was Heinlein and what was "FASCISM IS ACTUALLY loving TERRIBLE" from Verhoeven and the sequels. Barring the music video, if you swap out "Federation" for "America" I wouldn't be able to tell that apart from the other billion lovely HOORAH MURIKA KILL THE god that's terrifying
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Magres posted:Barring the music video, if you swap out "Federation" for "America" I wouldn't be able to tell that apart from the other billion lovely HOORAH MURIKA KILL THE Check out the live action Halo movie (Forward unto Dawn?) on Netflix Space Fascism! Jahvowl!
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Lets get down to business / to defeat / the bugs!
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 02:09 |
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McDowell posted:Check out the live action Halo movie (Forward unto Dawn?) on Netflix Yeah except that poo poo is awesome (I'm a sucker for Halo games, even though I know the entirety of human society is double-hosed up in them)
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 02:11 |
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pentyne posted:It's been a long time since I read the book, and the movie treatment has infected my awareness of it so I can't remember what was Heinlein and what was "FASCISM IS ACTUALLY loving TERRIBLE" from Verhoeven and the sequels. Well in the book, Rico's dad gives up his lucrative executive job running some big company or bank or whatever to enlist as a 60-year-old private and he's like "man this is so much better than my old life, what a waste that was".
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 02:20 |
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James Garfield posted:Way to present adultery as worse than child molestation, Matt. Unless I'm forgetting about some passages the Bible does too, so why wouldn't he?
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FuzzySkinner posted:What wound up doing him in was a very weird interpretation of the bible that seems to treat women as non-factors and treats sex as some weird forbidden fruit that should never be done outside of a boring form of a wedding. It's not so weird an interpretation, you essentially just described the writings of Paul. It's just as arguable that by failing to follow Paul's guidance on how to treat women and sex, mainstream Christianity is the weird interpretation. His works are included in what is considered the infallible word of God, so pretending that they don't exist or are not applicable is essentially going against God. I'm not sure why he's so ignored since he's a huge part of the New Testament. Fun fact: Paul was demanding women wear head coverings before Muhammad made it cool.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 02:51 |
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Paul is ignored in mainstream Christianity because we tried enforcing his weird sexual hangups on everyone and the results were terrible, hth.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 02:56 |
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VitalSigns posted:Paul is ignored in mainstream Christianity because we tried enforcing his weird sexual hangups on everyone and the results were terrible, hth. The evangelical station I listen to literally references him more than they reference you know...Christ himself. I've really grown to loathe that man.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 03:06 |
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VitalSigns posted:Well in the book, Rico's dad gives up his lucrative executive job running some big company or bank or whatever to enlist as a 60-year-old private and he's like "man this is so much better than my old life, what a waste that was". The last half of that book was a flaming trash heap that I refuse to acknowledge He probably was loving it because he got to just sit around all day and zone out while the self-insert professor drones on and on
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VitalSigns posted:Well in the book, Rico's dad gives up his lucrative executive job running some big company or bank or whatever to enlist as a 60-year-old private and he's like "man this is so much better than my old life, what a waste that was". Heinlein's whole thing in the end of the book seemed to be that doing good for others is better than just enriching yourself.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 03:20 |
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Chantilly Say posted:Heinlein's whole thing in the end of the book seemed to be that doing good for others is better than just enriching yourself. No that was not the message of his dad regretting his life as a civilian and joining up as an old man to fight for the state.
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Armyman25 posted:Michael is a troll in the Rush model from way back. He is just saying this to get a rise out of people he's been on the radio in central Iowa for over 20 years. His schtick hasn't changed. That doesn't really excuse it though, does it? It doesn't matter if he doesn't believe his own bullshit if other people do and it moves the window of acceptable discourse closer to pogroms.
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StandardVC10 posted:It doesn't matter if he doesn't believe his own bullshit if other people do and it moves the window of acceptable discourse closer to pogroms. The Overton Window in this country is absolutely hosed. Our left is the center.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 04:55 |
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FuzzySkinner posted:The evangelical station I listen to literally references him more than they reference you know...Christ himself. God, Paul was such a loving rear end in a top hat. I think more people need to pull a Thomas Jefferson and cut out the lovely parts of the bible, although it's been so long since I've read it, I don't know if Paul has anything really useful to say aside from his fear and hatred of women, or if people could just toss out his entire chapters.
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VitalSigns posted:No that was not the message of his dad regretting his life as a civilian and joining up as an old man to fight for the state. The identification of the state and humanity as one and the same can't be discounted easily, here.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 05:29 |
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Chantilly Say posted:The identification of the state and humanity as one and the same can't be discounted easily, here. Well right, that's exactly what makes the book openly fascist. Xanderkish posted:God, Paul was such a loving rear end in a top hat. I think more people need to pull a Thomas Jefferson and cut out the lovely parts of the bible, although it's been so long since I've read it, I don't know if Paul has anything really useful to say aside from his fear and hatred of women, or if people could just toss out his entire chapters. He had a bunch of good poo poo to say about giving to the poor and not hoarding wealth but for obvious reasons evangelicals only quote the parts that are useful to support their wish to own women and slaves.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 05:30 |
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Slaves and women, man. Order is important; they occasionally talk about respecting slaves.
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VitalSigns posted:Well right, that's exactly what makes the book openly fascist. "The fact that the government in the book is a multicultural, egalitarian democratic republic with institutions designed to guard against the influence of elite interests and promote civic responsibility is what makes it fascist."
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 05:43 |
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Yes, the lie that only a military dictatorship can save us from
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 05:47 |
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Hang on. Was the government a military dictatorship or a democratic republic? I don't really see how basically anything can accurately be called both of those at the same time. Though I guess it depends who you ask (never read the book, just seen the movie)
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Magres posted:Hang on. Was the government a military dictatorship or a democratic republic? I don't really see how basically anything can accurately be called both of those at the same time. Though I guess it depends who you ask The franchise was restricted to former military only, although if you couldn't hack it in actual combat arms they would find something else for you to do: federal service "is either real military service... or a most unreasonable facsimile thereof". So I guess it was democratic and egalitarian in the sense that voting was open to anyone who was willing to spend X years in state indoctrination run like by the military...ie neither democratic nor egalitarian.
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