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I always expected to have to rewind after checking people's computers right in front of them, but nobody gives a poo poo. Or at least I hope they don't. The game could always pull an Earthbound and everyone will bring it up near the end as a reason why Max Caufield is just the worst.
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Mr. Jefferson is Max from the future. Think about it. They are both into photography and
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Aug 19, 2015 13:27
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In another alternative universe Max is the sidekick to Professor Fate and is played by Peter Falk.
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Aug 19, 2015 13:32
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Max shot JFK, the clues are all there.
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Aug 19, 2015 15:04
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I'm really curious how they'll even start episode 5, but it's pretty uncomfortable to think about. Jefferson's clearly planning to kill her eventually, she knows too much, but maybe he plans to stage it or make it look like an accident somehow? If he was only going to kill her Jefferson would've shot her along with Chloe, so maybe he needs to interrogate her first to find out what she knows and where she's keeping the evidence. It's also the only chance Max would have to wake up and escape, so assuming that's going to happen with the player's involvement it probably has to happen. There's the threat of another photoshoot, although going by what happened to Kate they might keep Max under for that so there's not much chance for the player to do anything - I'm also unsure if they'd go through with putting a scene like that in the game, playing through it could be too dark (although that stinger preview for episode 5 was dark as gently caress). Even letting it happen might be too much, maybe failing to escape before they put Max back under would be a game over or a forced rewind back to the start of the interrogation. A rescue or intervention doesn't seem certain. I guess if Frank's alive and friendly he might return to the barn to find out what's going on, if David's still in the house he could find the evidence in Chloe's room. Warren seems drugged and doesn't have any leads, Victoria's on the hit list but Jefferson and Nathan have enough on their plate that night. I guess Nathan himself could get cold feet about having to kill yet again or Jefferson might be looking to pin everything on him, and those two screwing up or fighting could give Max a way out - if they interrogate her together, using her rewind to learn things to set them against each other might be a way out. Assuming her rewind works normally, of course, and doesn't glitch out again.
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Aug 19, 2015 23:37
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Dolash posted:A rescue or intervention doesn't seem certain. I guess if Frank's alive and friendly he might return to the barn to find out what's going on, if David's still in the house he could find the evidence in Chloe's room. Warren seems drugged and doesn't have any leads, Victoria's on the hit list but Jefferson and Nathan have enough on their plate that night. I guess Nathan himself could get cold feet about having to kill yet again or Jefferson might be looking to pin everything on him, and those two screwing up or fighting could give Max a way out - if they interrogate her together, using her rewind to learn things to set them against each other might be a way out. Assuming her rewind works normally, of course, and doesn't glitch out again. Considering how paranoid David is I wouldn't be surprised if he was following Chloe and Max.
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Aug 20, 2015 02:23
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Nckdictator posted:Considering how paranoid David is I wouldn't be surprised if he was following Chloe and Max. I imagine that is going to depend on if you sided with David or not So, help me out here Frank 
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Aug 20, 2015 02:26
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Nckdictator posted:Considering how paranoid David is I wouldn't be surprised if he was following Chloe and Max. He's definitely going to come save the day, he always has a gun, and he's the only one who'd has the location of the barn (Chloe left it on her computer), so David is going to come save the day which is going to lead to an emotional scene when he asks where Chloe is Macaluso posted:I imagine that is going to depend on if you sided with David or not Despite being a bad stepfather, David doesn't want anything bad to happen to Chloe, he's not just going to not look for his missing step-daughter
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Aug 20, 2015 03:35
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Picked up the game over the weekend, and finished chapter four today. Just wanna say, I never loving trusted that loving teacher. Serious Girl with a Dragon Tattoo vibes there. Also the universe just really wants Chloe dead. My theory is, Max dies if you killed her plant.
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Aug 20, 2015 03:35
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Ekusukariba posted:He's definitely going to come save the day, he always has a gun, and he's the only one who'd has the location of the barn (Chloe left it on her computer), so David is going to come save the day which is going to lead to an emotional scene when he asks where Chloe is  Right, here's what we do. He'll let Max come to before he kills her, Max makes a break for for the needles, rewinds so she's effectively teleported, jabs that sick gently caress with his own medicine, David shows up, shoots him, takes Max to the cops, once she finally gets back to Blackwell she finds Warren, uses the photo to warn Chloe, *STUFF HAPPENS*, *TORNADO HAPPENS*, everyone dies except Max and Chloe because they're already halfway to Portland, where the Dream of the 90's is alive and your flannel shirt still looks fly. The End.
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Aug 20, 2015 12:13
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NaDy posted:Can I just say I love it when this game gives you the option to 'Sit'. It's so nice to have a bit of downtime and reflection in a game like this and the way the camera slowly flicks between scenes with some music playing is god drat awesome. It fits perfectly within the game's universe and I'm amazed they actually put it in.
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Aug 20, 2015 14:31
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Ekusukariba posted:He's definitely going to come save the day, he always has a gun, and he's the only one who'd has the location of the barn (Chloe left it on her computer)
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Aug 20, 2015 16:03
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They have a few possible avenues for rescue, so that's going to be interesting to see how you get out of the situation.
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Aug 20, 2015 16:07
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woodenchicken posted:They left the map open on the computer and the camera lingered on it for so long that it was really obvious David would have to rescue them from whatever it was they would find. They also made a big point out of David also setting up security cameras around the Prescott estate in Episode 4 so I think we're gonna be going there at some point.
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Aug 20, 2015 16:09
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Max posted:They have a few possible avenues for rescue, so that's going to be interesting to see how you get out of the situation. If you supported David and also befriended Frank they both show up and end up killing each other. Bad end.
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Aug 20, 2015 16:13
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BobTheJanitor posted:Come to think of it, this could have made proving your power to Chloe a hell of a lot easier. Just magic teleport around the room for a while. The narrative just sort of ignores the fact that every time you rewind people would see you suddenly jerk into a new position. I think if you rewind in the diner after eating, Joyce approaches you with an empty plate. So there's some sort of perceptual protection when you jump in front of people.
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Aug 20, 2015 17:45
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So when Max finds the owl in the barn (if you bother to find it that is) I was disappointed that there was no Twin Peaks reference, but after thinking about it, the whole thing is a meta-reference, in Twin Peaks we are told by the cosmos "The owls are not what they seem." The first owl we meet is right before going into the Dark Room, on the Prescott estate, we think it's the den of Nathan, this turns out not to be true. The second owl is encountered at the junk yard before Jefferson shows his true self, the girls were going there because they thought Nathan was going to hide Rachel's body, something else that wasn't true. So, while it's obvious that Rachel is Laura Palmer, I do believe we're going to get more into Twin Peaks territory, and the Dark Room is going to turn out to be a surreal and evil place similar to the Black Lodge. Basically, chapter five is going to be a lot like the series finale of Twin Peaks (or the equally surreal movie Fire Walk With Me) Perhaps Jefferson is possesed by a dark spirit like BOB, or maybe just has the same time powers as Max, and the next episode is going to involve some insane time fuckery and jumping from one "little piece of time" to another. Another fun little theme in Twin Peaks was Laura's clothes causing Donna to act different when she wore them, Max certainly acted more brave and assertive wearing Rachel's clothes. I don't think Chloe is going to have to die to set things right (I kinda hope trying it is an ending though), as one, it's kinda cliche and lame, and two, Arcadia Bay was still going to hell in the alternate timeline where Chloe was never involved with Rachel and the Vortex dweebs. Also fun nerdy trivia, according to his book, Frank sells "skidoo acid" which is a reference to the psychedelic movie Skidoo, which features Jackie Gleason on this LSD trip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7-RNNIbPP0 Groucho Marx also plays God, no telling if that will show up in Life Is Strange though.
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Aug 20, 2015 18:16
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It might be neat if you played as someone else for the opening of episode 5, having to piece together where Max is while the player's imagination gets to work on what horrible things could be happening while they're dragging their feet. Holding off on that reveal for a bit would be very tense. Still, I feel a little iffy about Max having to be rescued by someone else, it seems like that might be a little too passive and victim-y for the player, even if the rescue is in some way determinant based on previous choices. Having to manipulate Nathan or Jefferson in an interrogation or using time travel to get out of their situation somehow would be more assertive and better subvert the creepy helplessness fetish that Jefferson puts his victims through. Frank being determinant means Max getting out of her situation can't hinge on him, David doing the rescuing might redeem his spotty track record but also kind of vindicates his paranoid surveillance and Warren shrugging off the drugs to save the day again is veering hard into knight-in-shining-armor fantasy (also Jefferson would probably murder the gently caress out of him). Victoria getting involved somehow might work, since she's another target and turning the tables on Jefferson would be good optics. I would also settle for Max saving herself Bill & Ted style by deciding to set things up in the future to help her now and those things suddenly being set up. I guess despite the drugging Warren will either be involved or you'll go to him soon after escaping since if Jefferson's been through Max's camera bag and disposed of her pictures that'd be the only available selfie to transport through (did she put some of her previous selfies in her room? Don't remember). Edit: Actually, did Max not take any pictures of the dark room when she and Chloe broke in? You'd think even if they're planning on handling it themselves a little photo evidence wouldn't hurt! Dolash fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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Aug 20, 2015 21:47
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Actually instead of Jefferson I bet the evil supernatural power is Sean Prescott, Jefferson is likely just a hired creep. I kinda see them as the Dr. Lackey and Chairman in Paprika. And since Max just got captured, I wonder if we'll get a surreal and disturbing torture scene like Paprika had... And yeah I really hope you're able to save yourself instead of being some helpless damsel. And maybe the people you didn't piss off will help you with stopping the storm somehow. And in that case I have, uh. Frank, and... the homeless lady! The homeless lady is clearly the spirit animal of Arcadia Bay, and I'm going to guess the doe is Rachel's and not Max's. Max is the chaos butterfly and Chloe is the bluejay that keeps ending up dead unless you save it.
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Aug 20, 2015 22:30
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wyoming posted:So when Max finds the owl in the barn (if you bother to find it that is) I was disappointed that there was no Twin Peaks reference, but after thinking about it, the whole thing is a meta-reference, in Twin Peaks we are told by the cosmos "The owls are not what they seem." Speaking of references, is there a full list of all the various series/movies namedropped in licence plates? The ones I noticed were THEXFLS, TWLGHTZN, BRKBD, TWNPKS, QNTMLP, PRKSNRC, BFFVMPRSLR and SXFTNDR. The license plates in this game are almost like a who's who of TV I love; I wouldn't be surprised if I found STRTRK or something like TNGDS9 somewhere. Wungus fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Aug 21, 2015 |
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Aug 20, 2015 23:14
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Whalley posted:PRKBD, I don't know this one.
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Aug 21, 2015 00:47
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Plom Bar posted:I don't know this one. I think they meant BRKBD (Breaking Bad), it's the plate on Frank's RV.
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wyoming posted:I think they meant BRKBD (Breaking Bad), it's the plate on Frank's RV.
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People earlier in the thread figured a bunch of these out for me so I can't take all the credit. I think I got most of the plates, I wasn't paying much attention to see if there were any new ones in the last couple episodes though. I'm sure there are some connections I missed, as I don't remember who all the cars belong to, but the top few really tie in to their characters. TRDTCTV being on David's old car was something I never put together. THXFLS - Warren's car - The X-Files http://i.imgur.com/mJY6QAv.jpg TWNPKS - Chloe's truck - Twin Peaks http://i.imgur.com/iGEXdP1.jpg TPFTHLK - Mark Jefferson's car(!)Top of the Lake http://i.imgur.com/atg0A0q.jpg BRKBD - Frank's RV - Breaking Bad http://i.imgur.com/8XegNns.jpg TRDTCTV - David's old car in his garage True Detective http://i.imgur.com/Ma11fwR.jpg TWLGHTZN - Twilight Zone http://i.imgur.com/kGriZJq.jpg THSPRNS - The Sopranos http://i.imgur.com/grxVkrD.jpg SXFTNDR - Six Feet Under http://i.imgur.com/dE3EnSb.jpg QNTMLP - Quantum Leap http://i.imgur.com/9cXFBP9.jpg BFFVMPRSLR - Buffy the Vampire Slayer http://i.imgur.com/E8ZKpm5.jpg BRDCHRCH - Broadchurch http://i.imgur.com/yjYeqfP.jpg CRNVL - Carnivale http://i.imgur.com/Zzjynfa.jpg PRKSNRC - Parks and Rec http://i.imgur.com/HD3DI3f.jpg DNNDRK - Donnie Darko http://i.imgur.com/UfZ6HxX.jpg GRNDHGD - Groundhog Day http://i.imgur.com/UQzlGxR.jpg THFCLT - The Faculty http://i.imgur.com/F8Ag3iT.jpg THKLLNG - The Killing http://i.imgur.com/ACFKjo9.jpg NTHRRTH - Another Earth http://i.imgur.com/QxAGhlk.jpg LPHNT - Elephant http://i.imgur.com/cLnF3pw.jpg RLSFTTRCTN - Rules of Attraction http://i.imgur.com/cMZK4Cm.jpg THWR - The Wire http://i.imgur.com/oocB3s1.jpg THFFC - Cop car outside Two Whales Diner The Office http://i.imgur.com/Q5F1H5O.jpg vvvv e: poo poo, so obvious. Thanks! vvvv RightClickSaveAs fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Aug 22, 2015 |
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Aug 21, 2015 02:56
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The Wire?
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Aug 21, 2015 02:59
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Aug 21, 2015 04:51
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rachel amber's car will need to be GRLDRGTTT
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epitasis posted:rachel amber's car will need to be GRLDRGTTT GNGRL
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Aug 21, 2015 05:00
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I think THFFC is The 4400.
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Aug 21, 2015 05:18
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Pretty sure NTHRRTH and THFFC are Another Earth and The Office.
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RightClickSaveAs posted:People earlier in the thread figured a bunch of these out for me so I can't take all the credit. I think I got most of the plates, I wasn't paying much attention to see if there were any new ones in the last couple episodes though. Well that's just silly. What sort of town has so many novelty license plates? GAME SUCKS IMMERSION RUINED 0/10.
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nthrrth is another earth I think
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RightClickSaveAs posted:THFCLT - The Faculty http://i.imgur.com/F8Ag3iT.jpg Oh gently caress me
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CyRaptor posted:Pretty sure NTHRRTH and THFFC are Another Earth and The Office. sout posted:nthrrth is another earth I think
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I was going through collectibles mode to grab all the photographs, and I noticed this at Rachel's grave: More of a Chloe shirt than a Rachel one, but considering they were together, I wonder if it was a subtle hint.  truck supremacy  I'm p sure people have already combed over all the weird graffiti on the lighthouse path ("how long has [trust no one] been there?" especially). Wind glyphs are a weird detail to hide in such an obscure place, though, so maybe there's something to the occult theories. Unrelated:  I like how even the background symbolism was setting David up to be a threat to Max. 
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Aug 23, 2015 14:13
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PhysicsFrenzy posted:("how long has [trust no one] been there?" especially). What's up with the runic pyramid graffiti on the back of the shed at the top of the lighthouse path though?
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Aug 23, 2015 15:25
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Whalley posted:From the chronologically earliest point in the game, that's been there. Oh, no, I know that. Max actually asks how long it's been there, and in a game involving time travel fuckery, you've really got to wonder. Runic pyramid for reference:  I see a bunch of math symbols and greek letters (used especially in physics and the sciences) in there. new theory, brooke caused the vortex with her drone
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There are a few Eye of Providence symbols littered throughout the game. I think it also appears in the diner bathroom in one of the episodes as well as in the girl's bathroom at the start of Episode One. Although nowadays often associated with freemasonry, it was originally a symbol for the all-seeing eye of God watching over humanity. So there are a number of ways it can be interpreted in Life is Strange, having significance in secret societies and conspiracies (the Vortex Club, the Prescotts), Max's role as the protector and savior of Chloe, or whatever guiding force grants Max her time traveling powers. Edit: Oh, for the glyph thing I have no idea. Thought you were talking about the dollar sign one.
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PhysicsFrenzy posted:Oh, no, I know that. Max actually asks how long it's been there, and in a game involving time travel fuckery, you've really got to wonder. That or anything like it never comes up again, as far as I know. It seems pretty heavily laden with meaning, but maybe it never goes anywhere. I mean it IS really windy up there! You can also hear the banging that was talked about earlier, but that definitely sounds like just the wind blowing things around.
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I didn't mention it in my list of predictions, but I think the Tobanga - the creepy totem thing staring at the girls' dorm that I've had a watchful eye on since episode 1 - will be a COMPLETE red herring. I wonder if the glyphs are too.
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