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Congrats to Baylor on finally joining the prestigious "gently caress those guys forever, no seriously gently caress them" club.
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Pakled posted:Cannibalism or bust. drat, the Baylor investigation of it was a mess quote:Meanwhile, the details about the investigation conducted by Baylor that came out during the trial reveal one that was shockingly brief: It involved reading text messages, looking at a polygraph test Ukwuachu had independently commissioned—which is rarely admissible in court—and contacting Ukwuachu, Doe, and one witness on behalf of each of them. Ukwuachu’s roommate, Peni Tagive, is the primary witness in his defense. During opening statements, Sibley—Ukwuachu’s attorney—claimed that Tagive would be able to testify that he had been present at the time of the incident, and neither saw nor heard any signs of the struggle that Doe claims ensued. During her testimony, Doe stated several times that she doesn’t believe that Tagive was in the apartment, and prosecutor Robert F. Moody said in his opening statement that “We’re not going to call him, because we don’t believe he’s trustworthy.”Part of the reason Moody might not trust Tagive’s testimony is that after Tagive—a running back for the Bears—was subpoenaed, he spent two nights in jail for contempt of court after he failed to appear for his grand jury summons, and was required to wear an ankle monitor upon his release to ensure that he would appear to testify. Tagive’s statements may have been considered persuasive to Baylor in its investigation, but he clearly went to some lengths to avoid making them under oath.
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Aug 21, 2015 04:04
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It's official go frogs
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Aug 21, 2015 04:06
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what the gently caress
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Aug 21, 2015 04:08
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Jesus Baylor... Can we get some Penn State-like investigations on them?
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Aug 21, 2015 04:15
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Holy poo poo That's some hosed up poo poo. I hope that douche gets locked up forever. And I hope Baylor gets serious repercussions for this
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Aug 21, 2015 04:19
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That is so hosed up. gently caress that school. May they return to the football gutter in which they belong.
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Aug 21, 2015 04:28
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Pakled posted:It's official
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I'm glad (well not glad exactly) my gently caress Baylor policy has been affirmed GO FROGS the mean lunch lady fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Aug 21, 2015 |
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Aug 21, 2015 04:36
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I hope Baylor loses every game and their coaching staff gently caress off to hell. Go every team on their schedule.
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Aug 21, 2015 04:50
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Joy. Thanks for doing this right after I graduated, Baylor.
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Aug 21, 2015 05:04
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There's zero chance Baylor walks away from this unscathed. If they're smart by the time they come back to the office Monday the place is just scorched earth and anyone even remotely associated with the investigation or messing with the victim is gone. The kid should be escorted off campus now and the PR that he was booted should happen in ~6 hours. If they sit on their thumbs they are going to get roasted. Bomani already started in on them tonight, it is going to be a massacre come tomorrow.
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Aug 21, 2015 05:36
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Crotch Bat posted:The kid should be escorted off campus now and the PR that he was booted should happen in ~6 hours. If they sit on their thumbs they are going to get roasted. He was already found guilty and we're just waiting on sentencing, is he still out on bail? I could see a world where that's true if there's any chance he gets off with probation or a fine (which would suck obviously) but I know nothing about the subject.
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Crotch Bat posted:There's zero chance Baylor walks away from this unscathed. If they're smart by the time they come back to the office Monday the place is just scorched earth and anyone even remotely associated with the investigation or messing with the victim is gone. The kid should be escorted off campus now and the PR that he was booted should happen in ~6 hours. If they sit on their thumbs they are going to get roasted. So this absolutely merits a Title IX investigation at the very least right?
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Grittybeard posted:He was already found guilty and we're just waiting on sentencing, is he still out on bail? I don't actually think there's a world where a guy gets convicted of rape and only gets off with probation or a fine. Key word here, convicted.
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Strobe posted:I don't actually think there's a world where a guy gets convicted of rape and only gets off with probation or a fine. Key word here, convicted. 'Sexual assault' rather than rape, and the law is a weird thing and Texas and....yeah just saying. I'd love to be wrong.
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Aug 21, 2015 05:52
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Grittybeard posted:He was already found guilty and we're just waiting on sentencing, is he still out on bail? True, forgot he might be in the system already. Regardless, what is Baylor waiting for anyway? If he gets probation nobody is going to want him in Waco anyway so just boot him. swickles posted:So this absolutely merits a Title IX investigation at the very least right? Baylor put out a predictable Title IX statement and said they have 3 Title IX employees but there's some rumors on Twitter that those people were hired after this incident happened which would look really, really bad. The investigation was a disgrace, they need to dump anyone and everyone associated with it because eventually that's what this is going to come back to, not the team. Regardless of how scummy it was to take him(BSU apparently put the word out to other schools to stay far away from him and his ex-gf there said he beat and choked her but didn't rape her), they sat him the second it happened and he never suited up for a game so the impact on the football program will be minimal but the school is going to burn for this and rightly so. The fact that they aren't the most anal retentive school on the planet with this stuff after the murder coverup baffles me. I'd rather hear about some kid not getting accepted because he didn't correctly sign and date the paperwork than see them half-rear end a rape investigation to fast track a player back to the field while the court case was still happening.
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Aug 21, 2015 05:59
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I like how my crazy fan rant post from a dozen pages back is actually coming true re: Baylor. Though I bet the NCAA does nothing and Baylor is forever Rape U.
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Aug 21, 2015 06:13
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Wait isn't Baylor's president Ken Starr?
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Crotch Bat posted:True, forgot he might be in the system already. Regardless, what is Baylor waiting for anyway? If he gets probation nobody is going to want him in Waco anyway so just boot him. A lot of that may come back to how much the football program knew about the allegations and sham of an investigation. If it was a cover up that was driven by the football team, then it very much should lead to Paterno-like repercussions. Numlock posted:I like how my crazy fan rant post from a dozen pages back is actually coming true re: Baylor. Rape me? No! Rape U!
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pillsburysoldier posted:Wait isn't Baylor's president Ken Starr? Yes
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kayakyakr posted:If it was a cover up that was driven by the football team, then it very much should lead to Paterno-like repercussions. So only a couple of down years?
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Lessail posted:So only a couple of down years? Hey they had to take down an entire statue, you know how heavy those things are?
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swickles posted:The problem is that lots of sports writers do complain about stupid things and embellish encounters for a variety of reasons. Coaches also do really dumb things (Urban Meyer kicking out reporters for wearing the color blue) and the media write about it. Basically don't trust anything anyone writes, it always one sided and the things that happen rarely occurred as reported. Even if this guy is being completely faithful in his recreation of events, its not like the majority of his profession have given him the ability to claim benefit of the doubt. dude789 posted:I mean, Petrino certainly could have handled it better, but the reporter was well aware that Petrino would probably be stressed out due to him being on the hot-seat and then went on to insinuate in the article that Petrino would have physically harmed him if he weren't restrained by the other coaches while mentioning multiple times that he prided himself on being "mature and professional." unlike Petrino. dude789 posted:Have you ever seen an assistant coach get between a ref and the head coach in a basketball game to stop them from getting a technical? Would 100% of those head coaches have punched the ref in the face if the assistant coach wasn't there? I would never loving defend a college football coach since they've pretty much all established themselves as big man babies who cry about a lot of stupid poo poo and are typically scummy fucks who lie all the time. Oh poor Petrino is stressed! The reporter should know that he's stressed at and only be nice to him and write good things.
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Huh. A team suddenly going from being worse than an afterthought to a national power is doing some shady and corrupt poo poo. Huh.
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Crotch Bat posted:So, uh, did Baylor just try to bury a rape? Their freshman AA DE Sam Ukwuachu was mysteriously held out from play last year for "unspecified reasons" and was today convicted of the rape of a former Baylor soccer player. Why was none of this known nationally until the conviction came through? Dude sounds like a complete psycho(his roommate when he was at Boise State said he was scared of him and cop once testified to responding to a call where Ukwuachu punched a window and said he was suicidal). Hahahah what the gently caress Baylor. You go out of your way to boot that kid from the team for living in a non-approved off campus apartment and drag that poo poo all through the media but not a peep about this poo poo. Thoguh posted:Next they'll be covering up murder. *nods
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he'd been conditioning with the team all the time and Baylor's DC said he looked forward to seeing him on the field this year.
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I read Missoula by Jon Krakauer a few months ago. It was a decent book if you can get over how angry/disgusted it makes you. I'm really amazed they were able to keep this a secret until now.
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Aug 21, 2015 13:50
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Art Briles you embarrass the family
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Aug 21, 2015 14:31
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I hate that the sport that I really enjoy and love enables all of this terrible poo poo behind the scenes in the name of success. I know that there are plenty of other industries where unethical behavior is sidelined in the name of winning or profits, but god drat I don't like it one bit.
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KKKLIP ART posted:I hate that the sport that I really enjoy and love enables all of this terrible poo poo behind the scenes in the name of success. I know that there are plenty of other industries where unethical behavior is sidelined in the name of winning or profits, but god drat I don't like it one bit. It's honestly why I've completely stopped watching the NFL. I haven't seen a single game in 2 years and I don't feel like I've missed anything. If I didn't have a job connection to the college game, I'd probably be backing off it as well. I feel for the bigger football fans like you and others because it has to suck. Football's a great game but the NFL and NCAA are super lovely institutions and it's hard to support the sport without doing the same to the assholes that run it.
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Aug 21, 2015 14:39
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kayakyakr posted:Jesus Baylor... Can we get some Penn State-like investigations on them? You mean appropriate punishments then hand-waving it away a year later?
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Aug 21, 2015 14:51
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Tennessee CB Rashaan Gaulden suffered a broken bone in his foot on Thursday and will be out for more than a month. Sucks because he was really starting to come into his own and was expected to be the Vols' starting nickleback, which Tennessee's defense spends a lot of time in.
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Lessail posted:So only a couple of down years? vyst posted:You mean appropriate punishments then hand-waving it away a year later? More along the lines of punishments for a set of coaches that were complicit in allowing terrible things to take place that weren't exactly directly tied to violations that had anything to do with the game or recruiting. Unless their recruiting pitch includes, "all the women you can rape!"
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kayakyakr posted:More along the lines of punishments for a set of coaches that were complicit in allowing terrible things to take place that weren't exactly directly tied to violations that had anything to do with the game or recruiting. Baylor's new slogan: "At least we don't rape kids"
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kayakyakr posted:A lot of that may come back to how much the football program knew about the allegations and sham of an investigation. If it was a cover up that was driven by the football team, then it very much should lead to Paterno-like repercussions. Is this something the NCAA can actually punish and won't walk back because they overreached and look like idiots? kayakyakr posted:Unless their recruiting pitch includes, "all the women you can rape!" Something something Baptists
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DOOP posted:Is this something the NCAA can actually punish and won't walk back because they overreached and look like idiots? I doubt it, but Title IX investigations have a lot more oomph behind them than the NCAA does.
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In lighter news about unethical behavior in higher education settings: Top 10 .edu names represented in Ashley Madison registrations Rank University # of Accounts 1. Michigan State University 696 2. Pennsylvania State University 679 3. Kent State University 653 4. Virginia Tech 561 5. Ivy Tech Community College 560 6. Virginia Community Colleges 541 7. Ohio State University 487 8. University of Minnesota 485 9. University of Michigan 450 10. New York University 438 Go Green  e: vv We're the SEC of unhappiness and unrealized dreams Anals of History fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Aug 21, 2015 |
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Aug 21, 2015 15:14
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Anals of History posted:In lighter news about unethical behavior in higher education settings: Big Ten supremacy.
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Where's Anne Frank Fuckstick when you need him?
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