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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Again, it's loving Zone 2 London. And "not even that central" my rear end, it's right on the loving Circle Line. So basically a well integrated and well maintained set of flats can indeed be valuable and popular. Many of these projects were indeed badly conceived and lessons should be learned but it is possible to have sets of flats which are not a total disaster. You also have places with high-rises like these which are, let's say, "architecturally undistinguished" but a perfectly servicable (and IIRC still contains social housing units): https://www.google.se/maps/@51.5398...12!8i6656?hl=en
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Roy posted:Flats in this old beaut are going for £375,000. It's not even that central. Things like this always seemed confusing to me, just because if they're that expensive (simply due to location), you'd think they could spring for a bit of a refurbish, spruce it up a little.
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Re: all the city planning talk. Couldn't every problem with parking and cities and the uglyness and everything just be fixed with enough underground parking garages?
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cheerfullydrab posted:Re: all the city planning talk. gently caress it, let's just Midgar this baby and build big plates. Dedicate the underlevel to parking. 
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Aug 21, 2015 18:38
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brutalism is good and owns actually
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Chinatown posted:brutalism is good and owns actually
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drat NIGGA posted:It's always been my home and I love it here, but L.A.'s skyline is pretty 80's. It looks like Oklahoma city or some other midwest city. The reason the LA skyline looks the way it does is because of some forward-thinking-at-the-time building code which required every building over X stories must have a roof that can accommodate a helicopter landing pad. I seem to recall that this has been/will shortly be changed, lending to some interesting possibilities for the future.
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cheerfullydrab posted:Re: all the city planning talk. We (Houston) are only about 50' above sea level, underground parking can end badly here.
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netally posted:Here's the latest monstrosity from London: Gimme a break, you KNOW a floating, transparent swimming pool is fuckin' sweet. Admit that you know it's sweet.
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cheerfullydrab posted:Re: all the city planning talk. Are you going to charge an arm and a leg for parking or are you going to raid the whole general fund to build these?
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PhotoKirk posted:We (Houston) lol
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du -hast posted:Also I am literally in the AON building right this second.
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A friend of mine just accepted a job as a city planner in San Francisco. I look forward to her Facebook posts about parking, transit, zoning, and really everything else. SF is a mess, but she's always dreamed of living there. Her fb post announcing the move asked for leads on affordable housing. I just laughed.
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TheMadMilkman posted:A friend of mine just accepted a job as a city planner in San Francisco. I look forward to her Facebook posts about parking, transit, zoning, and really everything else. SF is a mess, but she's always dreamed of living there. Oh drat. Get her an account and point her to the Ask a Traffic Engineer thread.
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Mescal posted:Gimme a break, you KNOW a floating, transparent swimming pool is fuckin' sweet. Admit that you know it's sweet. It's a floating Rich rear end in a top hat shooting gallery.
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Chinatown posted:brutalism is good and owns actually
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Aug 22, 2015 04:31
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Brutalism in countries that are ok with graffiti are cool its like the worlds biggest canvas
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I'm Crap posted:all those buildings are actually poo poo and the only people who claim to like them are internet cunts parroting each other because they're cunts hrm, nope
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MikeJF posted:Things like this always seemed confusing to me, just because if they're that expensive (simply due to location), you'd think they could spring for a bit of a refurbish, spruce it up a little. When I was in grad school I lived in an old council flat tower that had been gutted and refurbished. It was actually nice since the original building was more or less solid reinforced concrete and the redecoration had taken care of the horrible suicide-inducing interior.
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Chinatown posted:brutalism is good and owns actually Taking Chinatown's side on this.
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brutalism is sometimes good and sometimes owns actually
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Brutalism is awesome in 0.001% of cases.
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Brutalist buildings fare more poorly than some other architectural styles when not properly maintained, and it is not awesome when that happens.
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MikeJF posted:Things like this always seemed confusing to me, just because if they're that expensive (simply due to location), you'd think they could spring for a bit of a refurbish, spruce it up a little.
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MikeJF posted:Brutalism is awesome in Wolfenstein: The New Order
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I'm Crap posted:all those buildings are actually poo poo and the only people who claim to like them are internet cunts parroting each other because they're cunts look at how wrong you are 
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I'm Crap posted:all those buildings are actually poo poo and the only people who claim to like them are internet cunts parroting each other because they're cunts I quite like brutalism. Not for the appearance but I find it comforting and appealing in the visage of its strength, utility and permanence. A lot like a mountain.
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Good brutalism is great and underrated. The problem is that mediocre brutalism is both ugly and common.
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cheerfullydrab posted:Couldn't every problem with parking and cities and the uglyness and everything just be fixed with enough underground parking garages? Adding 10-20% to the price of a home doesn't go well in this economy and the parking spots often sell at a loss when sold separately. I sit in the board that hands out building permits in my city and something like 70% of our debates are about parking requirement exemptions. The funny thing is that our high and expensive parking requirements are essentially a business tax that subsidises car owners. That's the kind of socialism our business-minded conservatives and populists can get 100% behind.
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Brutalism is best served with copious, overgrowing vegetation.
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Collateral Damage posted:Or you could just pocket the money you'd spend on renovations because people will buy your lovely apartments anyway due to location. Yeah, but then you're living in a lovely apartment. Even if it has no effect on resale value (which I doubt), it affects your comfort while you're there. For rentals I could see it, but for people buying them I'm surprised if they're not sprucing them up.
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Mescal posted:Gimme a break, you KNOW a floating, transparent swimming pool is fuckin' sweet. Admit that you know it's sweet. Yeah if it was part of my Bond villan mansion on top of a mountain. Not in the middle of the city where you have to share it with 50 people and have gawking onlookers seeing you in swimwear.
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Computer viking posted:Good brutalism is great and underrated. The problem is that mediocre brutalism is both ugly and common. GotLag posted:Brutalism is best served with copious, overgrowing vegetation.
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Brutalism is cool and good when done well and properly maintained. It is bad when done poorly and/or badly maintained. It's like there is merit in every form of music (even polka), even if they aren't all to your taste.
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therattle posted:Brutalism is cool and good when done well and properly maintained. It is bad when done poorly and/or badly maintained. It's like there is merit in every form of music (even polka), even if they aren't all to your taste. It's a giant block of concrete, how much maintenance does it need?
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Angela Christine posted:It's a giant block of concrete, how much maintenance does it need? More than you expect, which is precisely the problem. When they were put up people thought precisely the way you do and 40 years, unfortunately, proved them wrong. In many ways water can be an even worse enemy to reinforced concrete than other materials since, if it can get there, it can eat away at the structure from the inside making it totally unsound. You have to monitor for that and stop the ingress to maintain structural integrity. That is only one of the things that you have to look out for.
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brutalism and every other style of building own cause they're huge buildings and cool to look at ugly or not. i'm frank gehry AMA
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Boston's brutalist buildings are an example of lovely design incurring more water damage than is possible to maintain. You can see the water damage in these photos http://artsfuse.org/131504/fuse-visual-arts-commentary-boston-city-hall-a-triumph-of-brutalism/ There was a Kickstarter recently to "honor" this crap
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