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Overrated. The traditional Marik nuclear delivery method is a couple of idiots in a jeep.
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It's just how their version of Lyran Orbital Insertion works.
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Aug 20, 2015 18:54
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Scintilla posted:Like I said earlier, the default Grand Titan would be pretty decent. Two of each size of Pulse Laser, two SRM-6 launchers and an LRM-15 would be handy to have against foes with a lot of expensive tech and probable XXL Engines. A PTN custom would be nice, but the standard seems pretty solid. I was always partial to the -11M. A little more long-range, still almost the same at short range especially accounting for the much better heat efficiency. The standard is scarier on paper until you account for it being hilariously undersinked. Of course, that always helped in terms of reducing its BV, so... Whichever one it is in this case probably doesn't matter so much; adding a big block of armor with a bunch of pulse in any form is a big deal right now.
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Aug 20, 2015 19:33
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900m cbills you say... ... ...  I think I might know whats coming, guys still wanna keep backing it up, those with a clear path to the top of the map should line up with it and flip their mechs around to face the enemy at the end of this turn and do that cool walking back while firing all the guns thing, cerebus and marauder gonna need do some other manuevering.
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Aug 20, 2015 19:42
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AtomikKrab posted:900m cbills you say... Let's hear your speculation! Even if just in spoiler tags.
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Aug 20, 2015 19:56
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That number is dollars, not c-bills btw. As speculated it's actually more like 44 million.
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Aug 20, 2015 20:00
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Scintilla posted:That number is dollars, not c-bills btw. As speculated it's actually more like 44 million. Note: this is still the pricetag of 1 1/2 Dire Wolves. These pilots are not gonna want to take structure damage.
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Aug 20, 2015 22:00
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Voyager I posted:Note: this is still the pricetag of 1 1/2 Dire Wolves. These pilots are not gonna want to take structure damage. Someone's gonna head-shot one of these guys, aren't they? I mean, it's happened... what... twice so far this mission? One more couldn't hurt (the players), right?
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Aug 20, 2015 22:12
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I figure if the players form a firing line and just focus down one of the Power Rangers, the rest will pull out unless they can do something really mean to you. and yeah, given the dice I hope you guys pull out a surprise headcap. Again 
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Aug 20, 2015 22:29
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berryjon posted:Someone's gonna head-shot one of these guys, aren't they? I mean, it's happened... what... twice so far this mission? One more couldn't hurt (the players), right? They probably have some hidden Edge just to prevent that, though. But it would be pretty fitting of :battletech: for that to happen...
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Aug 20, 2015 22:31
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I think technically we've gotten.. 4 of them, heh. War dog v Flea to open the mission, I got a headshot on the Bloodhound, it failed a consciousness roll on a 3, and automatically fell thanks to a leg crit from me kicking it. Yu Huang, technically not a headshot from us, but it failed a PSR and fell, hitting it's head, and then failed the consciousness roll. Penetrator last turn to the Nightstar's ERPPC. Team Warcrimes also got their headshot in on the poor Lightray.
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Aug 20, 2015 22:34
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Gwaihir posted:I think technically we've gotten.. 4 of them, heh. Speaking of warcrimes, I wonder when the warcrimes spider is going to get used.
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apostateCourier posted:Speaking of warcrimes, I wonder when the warcrimes spider is going to get used. The what?
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Aug 21, 2015 00:32
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Artificer posted:The what? In canon, there is a spider variant that replaces a laser with a flamer, and another variant that replaces the 2 lasers with 2 machine guns. Both are altered for anti-infantry work.
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Aug 21, 2015 01:27
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Weissritter posted:In canon, there is a spider variant that replaces a laser with a flamer, and another variant that replaces the 2 lasers with 2 machine guns. Then I altered it further for Poptarts' specialist contest, making it an IFV four machine guns, a flamer, and a 1 ton cargo component for VIP/fire team transport.
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Aug 21, 2015 01:38
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apostateCourier posted:Then I altered it further for Poptarts' specialist contest, making it an IFV Sadly, it's hard for me to use since you need three of them to carry a platoon of normal infantry (or five of them to carry a platoon of jump infantry). I'll find some way to use it, I just haven't figured out what yet. Probably a Commando Team Insertion Platform.
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Aug 21, 2015 02:29
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PoptartsNinja posted:Sadly, it's hard for me to use since you need three of them to carry a platoon of normal infantry (or five of them to carry a platoon of jump infantry). That's pretty much exactly what I had in mind.
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Aug 21, 2015 02:34
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PoptartsNinja posted:Sadly, it's hard for me to use since you need three of them to carry a platoon of normal infantry (or five of them to carry a platoon of jump infantry). Ptn I have fixed this for you, you now owe me, I take payment in the form of GLORIOUS CRABS and KING CRABS appearing in missions at some point.
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Aug 21, 2015 02:56
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Weissritter posted:In canon, there is a spider ... with a flamer ... 2 machine guns ... altered for anti-civilian work. Ardlen posted:Sarna also has a Grand Titan variant with a sword and TSM.
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Aug 21, 2015 20:26
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apostateCourier posted:So the most expensive one costs ~44m c-bills?, if I remembered the conversion correctly? Holy gently caress. Yeah, I wouldn't want to be That Guy that got the expensive bits broken. Eh, still not the MOST expensive Mech that's ever existed.
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Aug 21, 2015 20:35
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Endomorphic posted:We're talking the Capellans, right? It's the -K model. So House Kurita. Defiance Industries posted:Eh, still not the MOST expensive Mech that's ever existed. That honor still goes to the Defiance, doesn't it? 120,000,000 c-bills or so. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Aug 21, 2015 |
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Aug 21, 2015 20:36
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PoptartsNinja posted:That honor still goes to the Defiance, doesn't it? Holy hell, what's it in defiance of? The state's annual defense budget? What good would a machine that expensive be? Surely it'd be too valuable to risk with actual fighting.
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Aug 21, 2015 20:49
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Dolash posted:Holy hell, what's it in defiance of? The state's annual defense budget? The production model's costs eventually drop to 15 million or so. The prototype was just an incredibly over-engineered and cripplingly-expensive boondoggle (that got killed by the Gray Death Legion when they kicked those Evil Davions out of Defiance Industries )
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Aug 21, 2015 20:58
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Things can get hilariously expensive when you start playing with superheavies and XXL Engines. It's possible to get a 140 ton mech with a 3/5 movement profile and actual weaponry for the low, low cost of around 400,000,000 spacebux, although that's nothing compared to the one billion to fit a Ground-Mobile HPG to anything.
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Aug 21, 2015 21:13
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Scintilla posted:Things can get hilariously expensive when you start playing with superheavies and XXL Engines. It's possible to get a 140 ton mech with a 3/5 movement profile and actual weaponry for the low, low cost of around 400,000,000 spacebux, although that's nothing compared to the one billion to fit a Ground-Mobile HPG to anything. Four billion. So yeahh. 
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Aug 21, 2015 22:45
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PoptartsNinja posted:That honor still goes to the Defiance, doesn't it? That's the highest price tag we've seen but replacement weapons for Victor's Daishi were being hand-built at the NAIS and supposedly just an ER Medium Laser cost more than an entire assault lance. A lot of the TRO Prototype stuff is the same, no price tag because calculating the actual cost of the Clan XL in the Axman is an exercise in futility.
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Clearly you need to put the HPGs in omnipods.
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Aug 21, 2015 23:01
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Oh right. Forgot to make it an Omni Tripod.
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Where'd you get an SSW that handles tripods, anyway?
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dis astranagant posted:Where'd you get an SSW that handles tripods, anyway? The current version does, but it's still a new feature that's not fully implemented (the middle leg has no slots you can put things in and always has 0 armor / 0 structure). Check the dropdown for bipod/quad and you'll probably find yours does tripods too. You may have to set the tech to all eras noncannon / era specific in order to get it to show up. Better question is: how long until I give a faction a tripod? PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Aug 21, 2015 |
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Aug 21, 2015 23:25
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Aha, didn't notice the point release. Looks like it's more or less abandoned, the only guy actually coding SSW hasn't been able to wrap his head around tripods and superheavy mechs.
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Aug 21, 2015 23:33
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PoptartsNinja posted:Four billion. Is... is that an HPG on legs?
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Forgive my ignorance, but why would that thing require a targeting computer? I don't see any weapons on it.
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anakha posted:Forgive my ignorance, but why would that thing require a targeting computer? I don't see any weapons on it. TSEMP and the small laser. Sadly, you actually can't double down on mobile/ground mobile HPGs, SSW just doesn't handle that limitation. Oh, and they also can't be made into omnipods 
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What possible purpose does mounting an HPG in a mech serve? Surely a vehicle, dropship or spacecraft would be more sensible.
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Teledahn posted:What possible purpose does mounting an HPG in a mech serve? Surely a vehicle, dropship or spacecraft would be more sensible. 
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Aug 22, 2015 05:13
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Teledahn posted:What possible purpose does mounting an HPG in a mech serve? Surely a vehicle, dropship or spacecraft would be more sensible. Apollyon mounted one on his mech and shot dudes with it. It was basically a gun that generated a misjump in whatever it shot. Not just one of the ones where you get lost, the kind where they find your JumpShip and there's computers going through people's faces and the chairs have merged with people's boners.
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Aug 22, 2015 05:29
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Now that's just silly.
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Aug 22, 2015 05:30
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T.G. Xarbala posted:Now that's just silly. Is a gun that shoots spatial singularities sillier than the fact that an empire of quintillions of people can only keep maybe 100,000 troops under arms, though?
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You know what else is silly? The idea that you can send a message to anywhere in the galaxy at any time, using a dish mounted to the surface of the planet. At best that dish can cover one hemisphere of the sky. You have to show up at the right time for it to point in the right direction. Also a parabolic dish is good for receiving a weak signal, but completely unnecessary for sending one. The HPG should be broadcasting from some kind of directional antenna. If it's got anything to do with the elecromagnetic spectrum, anyway, which it probably doesn't, in which case who knows what it'd be shot out of but probably not the same construction that you'd use to listen for signals, like say a big dish.
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