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watho: Aug 2, 2013; The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

I have never seen a phantom be anything but dead weight to a team. I'm sure there are situations where he can be good in the hands of a good player but people are just way too fond of his glorious Hanzo steel.

# ? Aug 16, 2015 11:39

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# ? Jun 8, 2024 13:55

dogstile: May 1, 2012; fucking clocks
how do they work?

I got a gold burst fire fragger. What a waste.

# ? Aug 16, 2015 13:50

Samuel: Nov 5, 2011

I got a silver, shittiest bushwhacker.

# ? Aug 16, 2015 14:48

sleeptalker: Feb 17, 2011

watho posted:

I have never seen a phantom be anything but dead weight to a team. I'm sure there are situations where he can be good in the hands of a good player but people are just way too fond of his glorious Hanzo steel.

he's only good at distracting. it's better to flank/ambush with proxy or redeye or bushwhacker.

# ? Aug 16, 2015 16:43

dogstile: May 1, 2012; fucking clocks
how do they work?

A good phantom will have the entire enemy team completely focused on gunning him down rather than doing anything useful.

Shame they're so loving rare.

# ? Aug 16, 2015 18:42

Shockeh: Feb 24, 2009; Now be a dear and
fuck the fuck off.

And good luck using the sword unless they ever revoke the locked movement on melee. I've tried to backstab a stationary light and just because he happened to strafe with plenty of notice, but you can't turn to adjust, so it's just a crapshoot.

# ? Aug 17, 2015 09:24

Lokee: Oct 2, 2013; The brown sea is dark and full of terrors, but the paywall burns them all away.

Shockeh posted:

And good luck using the sword unless they ever revoke the locked movement on melee. I've tried to backstab a stationary light and just because he happened to strafe with plenty of notice, but you can't turn to adjust, so it's just a crapshoot.

Yeah unless I'm dead sure I'm gonna connect I come in with light attacks, still works well enough. Also remember to jump while slashing/right before slashing/slash as you're coming down or you're way more likely to miss.

e- Another thing that's immensly helped me not be a worthless pile of assault class while :ninja:

ing is reminding myself that I have a gun, and to use it. :eng101:

Lokee fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Aug 18, 2015

# ? Aug 18, 2015 05:46

NWO: Oct 2, 2005; Press butan for porn

Well, that was an immensely satisfying round.

Managed to take out the entire enemy squad in about 2 seconds. Air strike took 7 out and I plinked one off with my rifle just after. Purely luck on the marker placement but I must have just timed it right on the rail map as they rounded the corner.

Got about 8 badges in a row including Godlike.

# ? Aug 19, 2015 19:55

Bingo: Aug 18, 2003

I got a completely random disconnect from the new anti-cheat, has than happened to anyone else? I'm not even running anything in the background.

# ? Aug 19, 2015 19:58

The Jumpoff: May 4, 2011; Your dad's in the Russian Mafia, that's the jumpoff!

Shockeh posted:

And good luck using the sword unless they ever revoke the locked movement on melee. I've tried to backstab a stationary light and just because he happened to strafe with plenty of notice, but you can't turn to adjust, so it's just a crapshoot.

Good news, light attacks with melee don't get movement locked anymore.

Also LOL at making Rhino faster and Nader tankier in this patch.

# ? Aug 19, 2015 19:59

Lokee: Oct 2, 2013; The brown sea is dark and full of terrors, but the paywall burns them all away.

ANTI-CHEAT SYSTEM IMPLEMENTED :frogsiren:

quote:

While we are confident that NGS will be an effective tool against cheaters in the long-term, we'd like to urge patience in the short-term. There is no silver-bullet solution for this problem, and while this is an important step forward, there may be some issues as we work to improve NGS and fix any issues that might arise.

Also a slew of balance changes to weapons, matchmaking, and so forth.

quote:

Nader

Increased health to 120hp (from 110hp)

Reduced movement speed by ~2.5%

Rhino

Increased movement speed by ~2.5%

Skyhammer

Airstrike Markers will now always deal damage when they first detonate

Increased cooldown when failing to call in an Airstrike to 20s (from 15s)

Reduced Airstrike Marker detonation radius by ~10%

Sparks

Increased Med Pack healing amount to 30hp (from 25hp)

Increased the battery charge of the REVIVR so it takes ~10% longer to drain

M4A1 Assault Rifle

Reduced effective range by ~5%

BR-16 AR

Reduced bullet spread by ~5%

Reduced recoil kick by ~5%

Stark AR

Reduced bullet spread by ~5%

Reduced recoil kick by ~5%

Timik-47 AR

Reduced bullet spread by ~5%

Reduced recoil kick by ~5%

Dreiss AR

Reduced recoil kick by ~10%

K-121 MG

Increased magazine size to 55 (from 50)

Reduced spread increase rate by ~10%

Hollunds 880

Increased effective range by ~25%

Remburg 7

Reduced pellet spread by ~8%

Ahnuhld-12 Shotgun

Increased effective range by ~50%

SMG-9

Reduced bullet spread by ~5%

Reduced recoil kick by ~5%

Hochfir SMG

Reduced recoil kick by ~10%

Crotzni SMG

Increased starting bullet spread by ~10%

This is due to the Crotzni being slightly more powerful than other SMG's.

All Melee Weapons

Removed the turn speed limit from Primary Attacks (ie slashes) for all melee weapons

Kukri Knife

Extended the Kukri's melee collision box to improve its range
Other Changes

General

Updated the way Player Skill is calculated in non-competitive games to improve team balance

Reduced CPU load on dedicated servers by ~20% which should result in smoother games

User Interface

Team Shuffle by Skill votes now only require 51% of players to vote Yes to pass

Players can once again double-click to select Loadout Cards on the Trade-Up screen

News section on front-end now cycles between three most recent posts

Restored colon in lobby chat messages

Added error message when failing to join a Party

Fixed maps not being selected automatically in Quick Join

Fixed popups disappearing too quickly to be clicked on

Animation

Improved the first-person throwing animations for packs

Improved the jump and landing first-person camera movement

Audio

Continued audio-mixing pass to improve gameplay feedback

Fixed issue where killing shot of Sniper Rifles could not be heard by the victim

Added audio for picking-up, dropping and delivering the Carryable Objective

Added subtle audio confirmation for Kill and Finish notifications

Fine tuned third-person audio for weapon firing

Updated Main Menu audio

Added EV firing sound to Bridge

Improved Merc audio for incoming damage

Polish pass for all Merc dialogue

General Gameplay

Added an upper XP limit of 99,999XP per match to help protect against potential farming exploits

Updated 4-second Spawn Point invulnerability - If a player fires, they are dropped to a 50% damage shield rather than losing it entirely

This change does not impact medic revives

Reduced amount of view kick when shot by ~10%

Increased view kick recovery speed by ~35%

Arty

Moved Artillery Targeter further from the camera when held in first-person

Fletcher

Moved Sticky-Bomb Detonator further from the camera when held in first-person

Kira

Fixed the Orbital Laser audio not updating with distance

Phantom

Fixed some bugs relating to activating Refractive Armor

Redeye

Fixed bug where IR Goggles could occasionally not be enabled

Fixed bug where some items could continue to glow white after IR Goggles have been disabled

Fixed bug where Smoke Grenade could block delivery of Carryable Objectives

Sparks

Improved third-person audio reverb and reflections for REVIVR shots

M4A1 Assault Rifle

Reload audio now more closely matches the animation

K-121 MG

Added audio for raising and lowering weapon

Ahnuhld-12 Shotgun

Improved the fire and lever-action animations

SMG-9

Updated first-person positioning to make it more consistent with other weapons

Cricket Bat

Moved the Cricket Bat further from the camera when held in first-person

Notable Bug Fixes

Fixed Steady Augment not adding health to all deployables

Fixed several Carryable Objective pick-up and delivery behaviour issues

Fixed bug where players could be stuck constantly reloading Shotguns

Fix for objectives not resetting correctly in Stopwatch

KEK-10 is curiously missing from this list; though they did recently do some work on it with the initial Phantom nerfs.

# ? Aug 19, 2015 20:18

Shockeh: Feb 24, 2009; Now be a dear and
fuck the fuck off.

They buffed the Hochfir?!? :v:

# ? Aug 19, 2015 20:31

Sikreci: Mar 23, 2006

Wow, I did not expect them to get the anti-cheat out this quickly. Looking forward to the game being playable again!

# ? Aug 19, 2015 20:59

widespread: Aug 5, 2013; I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.

AceSnyp3r posted:

Wow, I did not expect them to get the anti-cheat out this quickly. Looking forward to the game being playable again!

I'm just miffed I missed the free elite case. Doesn't help there's people that got Cobalts from it, too.

# ? Aug 19, 2015 23:44

Antares: Jan 13, 2006

widespread posted:

I'm just miffed I missed the free elite case. Doesn't help there's people that got Cobalts from it, too.

if it makes you feel better i got some lovely silver rhino

# ? Aug 19, 2015 23:45

Hugh G. Rectum: Mar 1, 2011

Yeah I got a complete garbage silver proxy, you probably didn't miss much.

# ? Aug 20, 2015 02:33

Alain Perdrix: Dec 19, 2007; Howdy!

I'm really noticing the shotgun buffs. The Ahnuld is very fun to play with right now, which is good for me, since Fletcher's sorta my main dude.

# ? Aug 20, 2015 02:53

Samuel: Nov 5, 2011

Free Rhino rotation has ruined the game for this week, I can't even counter with fragger without 3 fatties rushing me.

# ? Aug 20, 2015 10:04

dogstile: May 1, 2012; fucking clocks
how do they work?

The solution is to play Rhino.

# ? Aug 20, 2015 12:35

Fart Car '97: Jul 23, 2003

I love rhino weeks because Rhino is easy as gently caress to counter

# ? Aug 20, 2015 14:07

Horizontal Tree: Jan 1, 2010

Headshot chaining bad Rhino's while they spray around you at range is very soothing.

# ? Aug 20, 2015 15:01

Fart Car '97: Jul 23, 2003

The hardest part about killing Rhinos as Fragger is deciding if I want to throw the grenade first to weaken them and then headshot them, or headshot them a few times and then air burst a grenade in their face to finish them off.

Choices, choices.

# ? Aug 20, 2015 15:05

Diabeesting: Apr 29, 2006; turn right to escape

I picked up this game a few days ago to play while recovering from hand surgery. I'm pleasantly surprised with how much fun it is! After playing a few hours I picked up the steam starter pack, and used the credits it gave to also pick up Nader. So far I'm loving Sawbones, Fragger, Nader, and a little dabbling of Arty. Trying to heard pubbies onto the objective seems to go best with breadcrumbing health kits to the EV with sawbones

I've just started playing some ranked games, my third match I was thrown up against a team of cobalt players who called out how fast they'd win at the start of the round against our unranked randoms... And beat it by 10 seconds :smith:

# ? Aug 20, 2015 18:38

Lokee: Oct 2, 2013; The brown sea is dark and full of terrors, but the paywall burns them all away.

Fart Car '97 posted:

I love rhino weeks because Rhino is easy as gently caress to counter

Best thing is catching them with melee as Phantom or Proxy; watching them rage.I find Rhinos are pretty easy to flank as they don't count on being as squishy as they are.

Also worth mentioning that Camping the Stairs now has a Dirty Bomb channel. So far I've only seen a couple people in the channel; but that's a couple more than I ever saw on Reticulated Spines. I'm gonna try to spend some time in it as well later today in hopes of getting a fabled "preform" going. :getin:

Lokee fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Aug 20, 2015

# ? Aug 20, 2015 19:38

Diabeesting: Apr 29, 2006; turn right to escape

Lokee posted:

Also worth mentioning that Camping the Stairs now has a Dirty Bomb channel. So far I've only seen a couple people in the channel; but that's a couple more than I ever saw on Reticulated Spines. I'm gonna try to spend some time in it as well later today in hopes of getting a fabled "preform" going.

I saw you in there earlier but my mic wasn't working. I'll be back around when I get things working.

# ? Aug 20, 2015 20:24

isndl: May 2, 2012; I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

Hacks are back in town. Only a bog standard aimbot at least, not one of the instakill with a gun that never needs reloading type things.

# ? Aug 21, 2015 03:03

Diabeesting: Apr 29, 2006; turn right to escape

I'm weak. I couldn't wait and dropped :10bux:

for Fletcher. I don't even have loadouts for him, or enough fingats to hit Q&E while moving... And my mouse thumb buttons are bound to Jump and PTT while I'm still in this splint.

Oh well, I start hand therapy today, I should be able to use my thumb again in.... 3-10 months!

# ? Aug 21, 2015 12:07

Delacroix: Dec 7, 2010

I cannot finish a match without being kicked for game security violations. It's likely that their anti-cheat is even more useless than punkbuster but it reminds me of being adminkicked from battlefield servers for being too good. :allears:

# ? Aug 22, 2015 02:33

Xae: Jan 19, 2005

Delacroix posted:

I cannot finish a match without being kicked for game security violations. It's likely that their anti-cheat is even more useless than punkbuster but it reminds me of being adminkicked from battlefield servers for being too good.

Run a memory test. You might have some bad ram.

# ? Aug 22, 2015 03:52

Knifegrab: Jul 30, 2014; Gadzooks! I'm terrified of this little child who is going to stab me with a knife. I must wrest the knife away from his control and therefore gain the upperhand.

Two questions:
1) Where do goons meet up to play the game? I am looking for a team to play with. (Reticulated Splines mumble is always open!)
2) Who is the most broken/powerful merc?

# ? Aug 22, 2015 06:55

The Jumpoff: May 4, 2011; Your dad's in the Russian Mafia, that's the jumpoff!

Knifegrab posted:

Two questions:
1) Where do goons meet up to play the game? I am looking for a team to play with. (Reticulated Splines mumble is always open!)
2) Who is the most broken/powerful merc?

I've seen one or two goons in the Camping the Stairs mumble but never a full party. I'd be down to play sometime though (mostly weekends).

As for OP mercs, I'd honestly say that Fragger is still really really near the top. He gets two of the best weapons in the game (The K-121 LMG and the M4A1) and his ability, while nothing flashy, can insta-gib 99% of the mercs in the game with a single good toss. Airburst a nade into a packed room and enjoy your free Ace. On top of that he gets 150 HP, currently beaten only by Rhino. He's not OP, but he is one of the stronger mercs in the game in my opinion.

I'd also argue that Nader, now that she has 120 HP, is a good candidate for really strong since her weapon selection is strong (for SMGS/Carbines) and her active ability is also quite powerful if you can direct hit people with her grenades.

I haven't played Phantom or Redeye at all so I don't know if either of them are considered good.

# ? Aug 22, 2015 07:56

Spudd: Nov 27, 2007; Protect children from "Safe Schools" social engineering. Shame!

I'm sure I could make a drinking game from the amount of times Nader's martyrdom killed me.

# ? Aug 22, 2015 08:07

Jst0rm: Sep 16, 2012; Grimey Drawer

I just started playing this game2 days ago and it is extremely my poo poo. I played tons of rtcw and et:wolf back in the day and this game feels like advanced versions of those. I'm going to buy the started pack this weekend to give them some money but I've just been using the air support guy with the machine gun. Ended up with a lead load out card for him with the right weapons. Anyways definitely pumped that this game exists and splash damage recovered from brink.

I feel bad I never gave brink a shot though.

# ? Aug 22, 2015 09:01

organburner: Apr 10, 2011; This avatar helped buy Lowtax a new skeleton.

Jst0rm posted:

I feel bad I never gave brink a shot though.

Don't.

I actually liked brink, but since no one else did it died way quickly.

# ? Aug 22, 2015 09:08

isndl: May 2, 2012; I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

Knifegrab posted:

2) Who is the most broken/powerful merc?

Sparks is a monster in the hands of a player with top tier aim and predictive ability. By herself she can be pretty scary and take on most opponents 1v1 if she has the initiative, then she starts reviving teammates in addition to shooting enemies and you have an incredible force multiplier that can grind down the enemy team via attrition if nothing else. She loses a lot of her potential if her teammates are idiots though, unlike say Fragger who can be more self-reliant if necessary. Very high skill curve to climb if you use her, but also very rewarding.

I've been trying Arty more seriously over the last few days now that he's had buffs, and he really is an XP farming machine. BR-16 can kill enemies ridiculously fast if you're landing headshots, you can get Drilled to spam bullets with less of a delay, and the Artillery Strike is easy to spam and can get tons of XP on EV maps. I've ended rounds with 10k more points over the next highest player even with a handicap in the form of 300 ping (shared connections suck).

# ? Aug 22, 2015 09:41

LuciferMorningstar: Aug 12, 2012; VIDEO GAME MODIFICATION IS TOTALLY THE SAME THING AS A FEMALE'S BODY AND CLONING SAID MODIFICATION IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS RAPE, GUYS!!!!!!!

What's the best way to approach unlocking loadouts? I'm assuming it's best to just buy the one you want, rather than try to score it randomly?

# ? Aug 22, 2015 09:50

isndl: May 2, 2012; I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

Yeah, just buy the bronze one straight up. You'll waste tons of time or credits trying to get it randomly.

# ? Aug 22, 2015 09:56

breaks: May 12, 2001

Downloaded, installed, did the tutorial. Did a quick match and everyone quit till it was 1v3. Bailed and did another quick match and the same thing. Bailed and got an actual game, 2 minutes later got kicked for "game security violation."

Great game.

# ? Aug 22, 2015 09:57

Delacroix: Dec 7, 2010

Jst0rm posted:

I just started playing this game2 days ago and it is extremely my poo poo. I played tons of rtcw and et:wolf back in the day and this game feels like advanced versions of those. I'm going to buy the started pack this weekend to give them some money but I've just been using the air support guy with the machine gun. Ended up with a lead load out card for him with the right weapons. Anyways definitely pumped that this game exists and splash damage recovered from brink.

I feel bad I never gave brink a shot though.

Brink was a self inflicted wound, they talked up how they could tweak numbers on the fly without patching but didn't fix weapon balance with the urgency required to keep the game alive. The large majority of guns had too much spread that made combat largely about slidetackling into people, bullethose blazing.

They're not out of the frying pan just yet. SD has been going one step forwards, one step backwards then sideways regarding weapon balance. The K121 and Dreiss have been going back and forth several times now. Characters take a while to be altered too. I don't believe they have a handle on incremental changes.

breaks posted:

Downloaded, installed, did the tutorial. Did a quick match and everyone quit till it was 1v3. Bailed and did another quick match and the same thing. Bailed and got an actual game, 2 minutes later got kicked for "game security violation."

Great game.

Now really isn't a great time to play. The devs have admitted that it is a problem on their end and not false positive cheat detection (i.e you shouldn't be banned). That said, it's hard to see the silver lining if five matches in a row post-patch result in a kick every time.

Should you stick around, I would suggest trying to play in the level restricted servers (if possible) over match-making because they're much more forgiving and likely to stay populated. It's still common for servers to empty, partly due to the awful client where it's faster to exit a match and get into a new server than it is to load into a new map on the same server.

# ? Aug 22, 2015 10:29

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# ? Jun 8, 2024 13:55

Knifegrab: Jul 30, 2014; Gadzooks! I'm terrified of this little child who is going to stab me with a knife. I must wrest the knife away from his control and therefore gain the upperhand.

Is there any charts or spreadsheets for different gun values (damage, RPM, etc)?

# ? Aug 22, 2015 11:40

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