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PT6A posted:There'd still be drug smuggling, and people with criminal histories trying to get through (just as there are at every single legal border crossing in the world between any two countries), so border surveillance would still need to be improved, especially given the large-scale cartel operations that are taking place in Mexico. Yeah, but we already have a lot of infrastructure in place -- Obama's significantly expanded border enforcement. I'll admit I'm not 100% an expert on this but I suspect our existing infrastructure could handle most of it (not to mention if we ended the war on drugs, but that's another issue).
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I am really surprised that cartels on the border / in side hasn't really been talked about much when it comes to illegal immigration. There have been hints at it but it isn't being said as much.
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At the rate this primary is going I half-expect someone to say the 14 Words before the convention. It will probably be ¡Jeb! accidentally saying it while answering a question on Iraq
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RPK has approved the caucus by a slim margin. If Rand Paul gives them $250,000 in a month he can be on the primary ballot for US Senate and be a candidate for President in Kentucky's Republican nomination process.
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Final vote count was 111-36, but it required a 2/3rds majority (98 votes).
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Joementum posted:Lincoln Chafee was offended by something Donald Trump said and decided to fire back. quote:In a statement to the Guardian, Chafee said: “This statement is another splash of nonsense that comes out of Trump’s mouth. Every true horseman Trump is unquestionably a true horseman. 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:The 25-point Program of the NSDAP A lot of those were unironically good ideas. Criminalizing war profiteering, ending debt-slavery, expanding healthcare and social welfare, nationalizing businesses, dividing out profits, communal use industry and warehouses, ending land speculation, death to bankers, outlawing child labor, encouraging the youth to remain physically active and developing their physical skills. The problem is, of course, that it was enveloped in a thick layer of German chauvinism that evolved into Nazism and culminated in one of the worst atrocities in history. I notice that a major plank is the refusal to admit any nonGermans as immigrant. Trump has said that, after the deportation of a dozen million illegal immigrants, he would gladly welcome most of them back as legal immigrants going through the new immigration process. And considering Trump's wives have been immigrants, and that a major tenet of the American ideal is immigration... I don't see anyone complaining about people who immigrate legally and fairly, the issue has been those who circumvent it entirely or those who exploit loopholes to expedite the process. (Now, obviously, this isn't too much of a problem, but it's the issue that they're focusing on.) To answer your question, I'd say "a lot of work". There are similarities but you could point out the same ones for Bernie Sanders. If America was able to exit the extreme patriotism of the 9/11 era without going full Nazi, I don't think a hypothetical President Trump would be the drop that breaks the dam. Who knows though  Third World Reggin posted:I am really surprised that cartels on the border / in side hasn't really been talked about much when it comes to illegal immigration. There have been hints at it but it isn't being said as much. If we're going to go on military adventures in desert hellholes it's probably a better idea to turn our eyes towards Mexico than send our soldiers halfway across the planet. The cartels (borne of the War against Drugs) in Mexico is a very serious problem. I don't have faith that they'll go away on their own if we do somehow end the War on Drugs, too.
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Joementum posted:Lincoln Chafee was offended by something Donald Trump said and decided to fire back. Is Bojack Horseman anti-illuminati? Is a secret race of horse people who worship Secretariat at the highest levels of government fighting the lizard people? He even refers to himself as a horseman for gently caress's sake. Someone call David Icke. 
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I just had an interesting thought. We're so used to Republicans speaking moderately, and dog-whistling to the extremists, that we might be missing what is right in front of our eyes. Trump is speaking as an extremist, and dog-whistling to the moderates. Edit: He reversed the game. It's exactly what Reagan did. Is that the one simple trick? XK fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Aug 22, 2015 |
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Deez Nuts has endorsed Bernie for the Democratic nomination and Kasich for the Republican nomination. Wrap it up Hillaryailures, Trumpailures, Jebailures, Walkerailures, etc.
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"We need engineers!" is hocum that means "we want engineers at fry-cook wages!"
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Golden Bee posted:"We need engineers!" is hocum that means "we want engineers at fry-cook wages!" Engineers getting fry-cook wages would be drat hilarious.
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Neurolimal posted:You are. There's a large chasm of difference between Cherrypicked freep opinions and the average conservative american. Financial Conservatism is propped up by social conservatism; things like Obamacare and social security are demonized by injecting bigotry into them. I still don't see anyone on the right supporting Trump because he made some vague statements that look a little leftist on paper. quote:You say this like it's unique to republicans. What does this have to do with anything? In the context of this argument I'm saying that republicans are supporting Trump more because of his attitude and bombastic rhetoric than because they've just been dying to hear support for social services and planned parenthood. quote:Context is important. The point of the debate in which he says that is important. The net benefit to Trump (without the setbacks of lobbyist funding) UHS would give is important. Audience reaction is important. Yes, the point in the debate where he walked back from his previous support of UHC, saying it works in other countries but won't work in the US. I don't think "we've got to help out everyone" means "universal healthcare" in that context. I don't recall much audience support for UHC at any point. I do recall plenty of cheering when other candidates talked about their plans to defund planned parenthood though.
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XK posted:I just had an interesting thought. We're so used to Republicans speaking moderately, and dog-whistling to the extremists, that we might be missing what is right in front of our eyes. Trump is speaking as an extremist, and dog-whistling to the moderates. Didn't Reagan come up with the "welfare queen" story, which is basically peak dog-whistling?
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HappyHippo posted:Didn't Reagan come up with the "welfare queen" story, which is basically peak dog-whistling? That doesn't seem like a dog-whistle at all. That's straight up saying people are ripping off the system and living well doing it.
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XK posted:That doesn't seem like a dog-whistle at all. That's straight up saying people are ripping off the system and living well doing it. The implication is that she's black. That's why it's dog-whistling: you don't say it explicitly, you leave it up to the listener to make the connection.
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HappyHippo posted:The implication is that she's black. That's why it's dog-whistling: you don't say it explicitly, you leave it up to the listener to make the connection. Alternately, the dog-whistle is back to the moderates that you're just trying to fix the system to make it work the way it was intended.
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Oh this looks fun... George P. Bush: Jeb Bush Will 'Pivot' on Loaded Language quote:A day after a firestorm over GOP presidential candidate Jeb Bush's use of the word "anchor baby", his son George P. Bush told a major Spanish-language news organization his father will "pivot" from "loaded" terms like "anchor baby" and focus on the country's complicated issues. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/george-p-bush-jeb-bush-will-pivot-loaded-language-n414006 I wonder how the fine folks over at Freep feel about this... quote:“and focus on the country’s complicated issues.” quote:Translation, my dad didn’t mean anything by it, he’s just trying to fool the rubes into thinking he gets why Americans are upset that their country is being colonized. quote:The Bush clan has deep ties with south and central america. JEB! and his love of every america except the US, is a product of this. quote:You pussy-cave on “anchor baby”, I will NEVER vote for you. Semantics is NOT one of our major problems. Illegal immigration IS. quote:The fact that the Bush family is disseminating their propaganda through spanish language publications tells you everything you need to know. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3327967/posts#comment Montasque fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Aug 22, 2015 |
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Deez Nuts has endorsed Bernie for the Democratic nomination and Kasich for the Republican nomination. Wrap it up Hillaryailures, Trumpailures, Jebailures, Walkerailures, etc. Which one of you is the 15 year old who entered as Deez Nuts, it's time to come clean. This is an obvious giveaway. Brannock posted:Hot off the presses, the Donald turns his eyes onto the coming sandstorm: "Bernie Sanders should've given them a Stone Cold Stunner." 
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Montasque posted:Oh this looks fun... Strange, I wouldn't refer to getting so dizzy on your own positions you spin around and fall down a "pivot".
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Shakugan posted:Admittedly off-topic; does anyone know what incredible court victory occurred to make US health product TV advertisements so detailed about potential side-effects, who shouldn't take that particular medication etc? Well only 2 countries in the world allow pharmaceutical advertising the US and New Zealand and yeah NZ ads have all the side effects too
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swampland posted:Well only 2 countries in the world allow pharmaceutical advertising the US and New Zealand and yeah NZ ads have all the side effects too  More countries than that, pretty sure most EU countries do too. They just regulate the poo poo out of it so they're very plain and simple.
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Montasque posted:Chamber of Amnesty That's pretty funny. Accurate as well. Jeb! and Hillary will both bow down to the chamber of amnesty, and sell the American blue collar worker out in an effort to whore for latino votes. Only Trump vs. Sanders can save us.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Trump is America and so can you! 
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Deez Nuts has endorsed Bernie for the Democratic nomination and Kasich for the Republican nomination. Wrap it up Hillaryailures, Trumpailures, Jebailures, Walkerailures, etc. Someone get those nuts an account!
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swampland posted:Well only 2 countries in the world allow pharmaceutical advertising the US and New Zealand and yeah NZ ads have all the side effects too it's super cool how the US is always in these statistics that make us look like a backward country
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there are only three countries that use the imperial system! the united states, Liberia and Myanmar!
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imagine if we had a flat tax, we could be like Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania but it has to be lower than 24/25/33 %, because that's what the bible says
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This is actually a pretty serious and immediate issue right now, a court recently struck down part of the system (OPT extension) that international STEM graduates have been using to get work authorization, meaning it's very possible that many graduates will be sent home next year. I go to an Ivy and people here are freaking out. A friend recently graduated from Berkeley with a PhD and is looking at having to go back to China. It's nuts, a great portion of the literal smartest people in the world come to the US for college and get educated here. Keeping them here is good for the economy, jobs, innovation etc. Have fun watching America fall far behind in R&D as it experiences a serious brain drain if it's not reversed. A lot of people think it'll be difficult to see overturned because it's an election year, and saying "maybe we should do something for foreigners who are educated in the US" doesn't play well to the electorate (because explaining why it's a net positive for the country as a whole can't be condensed into a sound byte). Our great golden hope is... Donald Trump? *kills self
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Shakugan posted:Admittedly off-topic; does anyone know what incredible court victory occurred to make US health product TV advertisements so detailed about potential side-effects, who shouldn't take that particular medication etc? Whatever it is, I've noticed the regulation seems to be "If you say what it does, you have to list the side effects." Viagra steps around this by not actually telling you what it does since everyone knows anyway. I distinctly remember once watching a commercial for some drug I'd never heard of which never once told you what it does and simply ended with "ask your doctor if X is right for you"
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HappyHippo posted:Whatever it is, I've noticed the regulation seems to be "If you say what it does, you have to list the side effects." Viagra steps around this by not actually telling you what it does since everyone knows anyway. I distinctly remember once watching a commercial for some drug I'd never heard of which never once told you what it does and simply ended with "ask your doctor if X is right for you" It's FDA regulation, and yes it's exactly what you say there; if you make a medical claim about a product in your ad, then you're required to satisfy certain other informational requirements in your ad as well, and the FDA comes down hard on any ads that violate that. quote:What must product claim ads tell you?
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This must be only talking about prescription and not over-the-counter drugs, which are still both pharmaceuticals. Because I live in an EU country and there's ads for poo poo like ibuprofen constantly. Sulphagnist fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Aug 22, 2015 |
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