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What I was getting from his monologue was that all that pain and suffering exists forever in the Khert unexpressed. What he's doing is giving it a way to express itself, to find catharsis in at least loving poo poo up. So he's not resolving the suffering, but he's giving it a way to be heard, and killing dudes while he's at it which also owns (in his opinion).
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And let's not forget his novel ideas about soup. I bet he's just full of modest proposals.
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Autonomous Monster posted:Well, Delicieu's assertion is that dispersal into the Khert wasn't a release for them either.
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I dunno, my main takeaway from Delicieu's philosophy is "gently caress this gay earth." He finds the metaphysical state of the world abhorrent and is loving it up for its own sake--it's not clear that he regards any of this as a real fix for anything, just a massive protest against an afterlife he perceives as monstrous (coupled with a little bit of revenge for his people being genocided.)
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Flesh Forge posted:I love the depth and complexity of this comic but lately I always have a lot of trouble visually parsing what the gently caress is going on. I feel really bad about this because I'm pretty sure the problem is with me and not the art. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one. I have had a lot of issues too, especially with the most recent pages where everything is red and tendrils.
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Gabriel Pope posted:I dunno, my main takeaway from Delicieu's philosophy is "gently caress this gay earth." He finds the metaphysical state of the world abhorrent and is loving it up for its own sake--it's not clear that he regards any of this as a real fix for anything, just a massive protest against an afterlife he perceives as monstrous (coupled with a little bit of revenge for his people being genocided.) I think this is pretty well stating the "Death is the gods' crime" thesis in drawn out monologue form.
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Wow, eight pages today. Sadly that means a few weeks without updates, but still, a lot happened on these pages. I can see why she wanted this scene to happen all at once. Also, wow, Delicieu is an rear end in a top hat. Look at what he's doing to Ana there. Plus side, Knock-Me-Down managed to make a clever escape, and also we got some amusing Duane-Quigley-Toma bickering.
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Roland Jones posted:and also we got some amusing Duane-Quigley-Toma bickering. It's absolutely fantastic.
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Roland Jones posted:and also we got some amusing Duane-Quigley-Toma bickering. T.G. Xarbala posted:It's absolutely fantastic.
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Roger Explosion posted:I could empty-quote this for days. It's absolutely pitch perfect, spot on character-based comedy smack dab in middle of the most horrific atrocity in the entire comic's run and I love it.
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This is one of those moments the comic was really building towards in terms of character chemistry.
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Unsounded is a webcomic full of beautiful pages, but this might be the most beautiful yet: Also: Boo did something! Sette's intervention worked! I love it when she gets something right.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:i like that boo turned out to actually be the font of all goodness and light, apparently It seems that the pymary that Boo is made of is basically just a bunch of happy thoughts that chase away the bad ones. It also seems that the good thoughts infused into the first silver that was going to stab Duane in the face, which I think will become the thing that finishes this fight.
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All pymarics eventually get infested with ghosts from the khert, and that includes Boo. It just turns out that the ghost-memories he's infested with are happy and adventurous ones as opposed to the horrifying mess that Cutter has been using to power his WMD.
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Well hey that's one more (admittedly relatively minor) mystery solved. Why does Boo seem unusually smart and emotive? Possessed by pleasant ghosts!
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reignonyourparade posted:Well hey that's one more (admittedly relatively minor) mystery solved. Why does Boo seem unusually smart and emotive? Possessed by pleasant ghosts! That's a hell of a mystery that no one thought was a mystery and didn't even really need solving, but drat if it didn't just get solved. Nice work. Flesh Forge posted:I love the depth and complexity of this comic but lately I always have a lot of trouble visually parsing what the gently caress is going on. I feel really bad about this because I'm pretty sure the problem is with me and not the art. T.G. Xarbala posted:There's a lot of silver, ghosts, and gooey bits. While to Ms. Cope's credit it all looks detailed and well-rendered, there's not always a clear line of action or sufficiently strong sense of scene composition (to tell the eye and the subconscious what is or is not important visual information) directing the eye when all of those visual elements are in play at the same time. I've been unable to visually parse half the pages of this comic ever since the first silver monster showed up. At this point I'm given up and am just along for the ride.
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I didn't even see the monster grab Ana the first time until a reread. It just sort of happens in the background.
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PleasingFungus posted:That's a hell of a mystery that no one thought was a mystery and didn't even really need solving, but drat if it didn't just get solved. Nice work. I'm genuinely confused how someone could be unable to parse what's going on. Like...what's unclear? The big monster is basically a ghost cocoon around the people embedded with first silver and is entangled with the building using that silver. It is also trying to kill our intrepid heroes with tentacles of first silver.
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Captain Oblivious posted:I'm genuinely confused how someone could be unable to parse what's going on. Like...what's unclear? The big monster is basically a ghost cocoon around the people embedded with first silver and is entangled with the building using that silver. It is also trying to kill our intrepid heroes with tentacles of first silver. Yes, that much is obvious, but there's SO MUCH big ghost cocoon first silver monster entangled with the building trying to kill our heroes that it can be a little difficult to pick out individual elements of that big ghost cocoon first silver monster tying to kill our heroes.
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Bad Seafood posted:Yeah, I always thought I had a pretty good bead on the flow of the action, but these last couple pages have completely lost me at points. Cope isn't particularly happy with it either, it seems, so you're not alone.
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Captain Oblivious posted:I'm genuinely confused how someone could be unable to parse what's going on. Like...what's unclear? The big monster is basically a ghost cocoon around the people embedded with first silver and is entangled with the building using that silver. It is also trying to kill our intrepid heroes with tentacles of first silver. SAY SILVER ONE MORE TIME
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I WILL I'm just sayin', it's pretty easy to derive that from the visuals in conjunction with the words. Grasping the story helps me decode the visuals a lot. Silver.  Now by contrast, Poppy O'Possum is a comic that visually confused the hell out of me recently because A) seemingly random time jumps mid story arc and B) baddies manifesting abilities that only made sense in the context of explanations given out of the comic. Captain Oblivious fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Aug 25, 2015 |
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Captain Oblivious posted:I WILL That's actually not what people are saying. Everyone "knows" whats going on because we all know the context, it's just that the visual clutter makes more specific details difficult to parse at a glance because, frankly, a lot of the silver monster massacre frames are not as well composed, in lighting or structure, as people usually expect in this comic. This is very much an art criticism and not a matter of story. This is something even Ashley Cope acknowledges, and like any good artist she intends to do better next time. And this is also something a lot of people have noticed, and they're less complaining and more noting a minor quibble. There's tons of well-composed frames, scenes, and entire pages throughout Unsounded's run, it's just that the mess of silver and ghosts isn't quite as visually well-constructed as those. The scenes in the khert where as visually dense with information, but composed in such a way that the information never really felt "overwhelming." I suppose the first silver ghost monster being amorphous makes it more difficult for Cope to visualize a way to communicate all of the information and bloodshed in the silverful-panels clearly and efficiently. If anything, this might well be a practice run for when she really has to pull out the stops, since I doubt this'll be the only time a silveragonybomb is going to go off in the story. Indeed, in the panels dealing with Duane, Quigley, and Toma, the rampant chaos is dialed down a bit and the scene is clearly more readable than some of the previous scenes precisely because she cuts back on what visual information to include in each panel, only including exactly as much information as a panel requires. Rather than using a single cluttered panel to show Toby's corpse attacking Knock while Ana's also being grabbed by silver in the background while the lighting for the entire frame is relatively even in intensity. You might not think that would be a problem, but people have already mentioned that they didn't notice Ana being grabbed at first glance. If Ms. Cope had the time or patience she could've broken that up into maybe a small handful of panels more clearly illustrating the sequence of events, but that's life. This is in no way a knock on her abilities since she's clearly miles ahead of, say, Aaron Diaz in terms of visual direction. And yes, she has a leg up on Morby in terms of sequential clarity. In contrast, I think Ashley Cope could stand to take some notes from Minna Sundberg's Stand Still Stay Silent on matters of detail and visual composition when dealing with amorphous blob monster tendrils, but Ms. Sundberg could take an entire lesson from Ms. Cope on pacing and storytelling. Arguably Sundberg has a different style of storytelling but when it comes to art and storytelling, "style" is less a conviction and more an excuse.
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It's a palette problem, I tell ya. The only contrast in here is the occasional flash of yellow/blue/green and there's precious little of any of those.
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That too.
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Ashley's one major comic no-no that she commits is that she literally draws her dialog bubbles in the frame rather than drawing the entire scene then putting them in as a separate layer. I can parse all of the recent pages but I kinda go through them slowly; the "non-descript underground room" setting kinda makes the silver blob indecipherable in terms of where everything is in relation to it or how it's moving. It certainly makes the scene look as chaotic as it's supposed to be for the characters but if you're trying to read it I could see a lot of people getting really confused at how everyone seems to be teleporting around the scene.
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Captain Oblivious posted:I'm just sayin', it's pretty easy to derive that from the visuals in conjunction with the words. Grasping the story helps me decode the visuals a lot. Silver.
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Just learned about Unsounded yesterday -- wow, I've been missing out, this is amazing stuff -- and am now catching up on this thread and digesting the nearly 800 pages of comic I read yesterday. The HD pages Ashley posts to the Patreon are pretty amazing. They're 1000x1500 compared to the website versions at 600x900 and with the insane amount of detail, especially in all the chapter 10 mayhem, they help quite a bit sorting out what's going on. I would happily buy a digital version of Unsounded just so I could re-read it all in HD at some point. Hoping we get a bit of a breather after the current mayhem resolves -- a bit more lighthearted to balance the grimdark would not be unwelcome, though clearly this is not a story likely to be all that heavy on rainbows and sunshine...
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Interesting post from the unsounded tumblr regarding Sette and Aldish castes...quote:Anonymous asked: Do you think Matty's voice has dropped yet? I mean, if his internals are aging really fast, you'd think that he'd sound older. I'd initially assumed Sette was in her early teens at the oldest, but there have been some hints in the story that she isn't aging "normally", and word of god here backs that up, making me wonder just how old she is (and even if she is significantly older than she looks, so she still behaves pretty childishly much of the time). I assume eventually we'll learn what's up with that (and her tail).
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So long as she's actually Nary's daughter (there's a non-zero chance he found her under a rosebush, I guess, but then he wouldn't get so pissed about having to look after her, he'd just chuck her out), I don't think she can be much older than... mid-thirties? Mid-twenties, probably. I reckon she's a similar age to Anadyne and Stockyard.
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Autonomous Monster posted:(there's a non-zero chance he found her under a rosebush, I guess, but then he wouldn't get so pissed about having to look after her, he'd just chuck her out) That really depends on what she is, exactly. It seems clear to me she's not exactly human. Maybe he needs her for something.
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Autonomous Monster posted:It's a palette problem, I tell ya. The only contrast in here is the occasional flash of yellow/blue/green and there's precious little of any of those. Unfortunately, people usually keep those colors on their outsides, and at present everyone's outsides are being slathered with liberal coatings of insides.
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And we're back- Wow. That is sad.
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