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NotWearingPants posted:If Warren endorses anyone but Bernie she will lose a lot of credibility with the left and then what's the value of her endorsement? Didn't she already endorse Hillary, or was that just a letter of support?
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Gyges posted:Didn't she already endorse Hillary, or was that just a letter of support? Probably support, because the press also speculated she was endorsing Biden, because he showed up to her house. Neurolimal posted:Still not sure why you hate Bernie outside "he's a long-shot". One way to make Hillary not look like a bomb in the general is to belittle her opposition.
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Aug 24, 2015 18:00
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Spaceman Future! posted:This is why he needs a blimp Still not sure why you hate Bernie outside "he's a long-shot".
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Aug 24, 2015 18:01
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It's interesting how some people take the hatred of themselves for being bad posters as hatred for whoever they happen to support. Really makes you think.
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Aug 24, 2015 18:03
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In a surprise move and the greatest political trolling manoeuvre ever, Trump will switch out his running mate during the last minutes of the election. Stepping up will be his long time personal friend ("he's the greatest"), Bill Clinton. Immediately after the inauguration, Trump will step down from office due to personal reasons, granting William Jefferson Clinton the first third term as president in american history. Always bet on Trump. (I bet some of you googled if this was possible)
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Nintendo Kid posted:It's interesting how some people take the hatred of themselves for being bad posters as hatred for whoever they happen to support. Really makes you think. Same way you come crawling out whenever somebody noticed Hillary farted?
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mcbexx posted:In a surprise move and the greatest political trolling manoeuvre ever, Trump will switch out his running mate during the last minutes of the election. Stepping up will be his long time personal friend ("he's the greatest"), Bill Clinton. FDR would like to have a word with you.
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Neurolimal posted:Still not sure why you hate Bernie outside "he's a long-shot". maybe I will like him better if he has a blimp.
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Spaceman Future! posted:maybe I will like him better if he has a blimp. Google Bernie Sanders.
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Aug 24, 2015 18:08
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Zelder posted:Goddamn so I love race and Bernie chat. So many analyses of black people like were an alien species Well for myself i grew up going to majority black public schools and lived in partially black lower middle class neighborhoods for most of my life and so theyre not so alien to me and i dont think they will vote for sanders in droves. Maybe the social activist inclined ones but they are not the majority. Theres gotta be a connection, and theyve gotta have fire. Most black people like the preacher model of speaker and public servant imo, a little bit of oomph to them. Bernie is whitebread. Hilary isnt much better though. So i think they sit this election out. Neurolimal posted:"Abstract beneficial policies" such as hiring a BLM activist to assist in writing a multi-page plan for social reforms, participating in civil rights' marches, giving out candid and direct pro-equality statements the moment he's asked, and relinquishing his spot in a rally for BLM activists to speak to the public (they did a p poo poo job but thats on them)? Maybe but personality/character is also important and the BLM stuff made him seem like someone people could walk over. Being president is not just about policy, its being the public face of a country and thats part of what people are voting for. the worst thing is fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Aug 24, 2015 |
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Tautologicus posted:Well for myself i grew up going to majority black public schools and lived in partially black lower middle class neighborhoods for most of my life and so theyre not so alien to me and i dont think they will vote for sanders in droves. Maybe the social activist inclined ones but they are not the majority. Theres gotta be a connection, and theyve gotta have fire. Most black people like the preacher model of speaker and public servant imo, a little bit of oomph to them. Bernie is whitebread. Hilary isnt much better though. So i think they sit this election out. Black voter participation is generally pretty high and I doubt that will change this election. Even in shitlord states with laws designed to suppress the vote with bullshit voter id laws black voters turn out strongly.
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Black voter participation is generally pretty high and I doubt that will change this election. I think you're mistaken, the widespread GOP voter suppression and poling place targeting is mainly because there are only 3 black voters but you never know where they will show up. Everyone else in day long lines is a hologram.
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So on my way into work this morning (I live in Colorado) I saw a Ford escape with not one but three (3) Ben Carson campaign stickers. Sandwiched between 2x of:  Also featuring a Texas flag sticker with the word "SECEDE" printed in blue bold text. The license plate was a commemorative Vietnam Veteran special issue. Driving past them, the driver and passenger was a late-60s white couple. Of course. I wasn't aware that Ben Carson was able to draw enough support to ever see a bumper sticker for his campaign out in the wild, especially not in Colorado, but here we are.
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Aug 24, 2015 18:19
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China dumb doodoo heads. Told you, China bad. Vote Trump 2016
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Black voter participation is generally pretty high and I doubt that will change this election. Even in shitlord states with laws designed to suppress the vote with bullshit voter id laws black voters turn out strongly. Says here they lagged every other group until Obama http://www.ssdan.net/sites/default/files/briefs/vtbrief.pdf And that was pretty likely because of Obama.
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Tautologicus posted:Well for myself i grew up going to majority black public schools and lived in partially black lower middle class neighborhoods for most of my life and so theyre not so alien to me and i dont think they will vote for sanders in droves. Maybe the social activist inclined ones but they are not the majority. Theres gotta be a connection, and theyve gotta have fire. Most black people like the preacher model of speaker and public servant imo, a little bit of oomph to them. Bernie is whitebread. Hilary isnt much better though. So i think they sit this election out. When it comes to the national election, they'll probably come out if there's someone to drive the hype, otherwise, they may deign to show up at all. For the primaries, the BLM stuff itself is literally a non issue and for most low info voters, it's a sideshow. At the end of the day, it's public exposure which Hillary has in spades. Unless she says something obviously racist (all lives matter falls under the BLM thing) or obviously against their interests, they'll go to her over Bernie or just not show up.
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Shageletic posted:Then you're in luck! Yes but the way Trump just phrased it is so much more palateable to the average american voter. You're not 'raising taxes' you're just swapping two different tax rates out: investors pay what workers pay and vice versa. Workers win out. I'd love to see the other campaigns adopt that particular phrasing because it's still a compact soundbite but it's a bajillion times more effective than what the left side of the spectrum has been saying.
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Boosted_C5 posted:The problem is she isn't also calling for slashing the hell out of the upper marginal income rates that are slaughtering main street and small business. The top income tax rate in 1952 was 91% and the average corporate tax rate was 52%, yet somehow the world didn't end. I would like you to explain why, please.
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Tautologicus posted:Says here they lagged every other group until Obama That pdf is awful. Black voters have consistently had greater turnout than any other minority demographic for a long time. They lagged white turnout until Obama. White people generally turn out in greater numbers than any minority but black voters turn out way more than any other minority. Here have a pdf that isn't poo poo https://www.census.gov/prod/2013pubs/p20-568.pdf I could see it dropping a few points but it's still strong relative to other demographics. Nuclearmonkee fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Aug 24, 2015 |
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Alter Ego posted:The top income tax rate in 1952 was 91% and the average corporate tax rate was 52%, yet somehow the world didn't end. I would like you to explain why, please. Yes and no one ever paid at either of those rates in the way they do today. Income was taxed in brackets and there were a lot more deductions to take. Taxes were actually effectively lower overall during that time. I went down this same train of thought at one point
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Fat Ogre posted:Watching Biden run would be loving hilarious. The Gun politics alone would gently caress him over every chance they could get. no one gives a poo poo about gun control except for single issue crazies like you
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Nuclearmonkee posted:That pdf is awful. Black voters have consistently had greater turnout than any other minority demographic for a long time. Blacks were the largest minority until recently, how is it at all meaningful if they vote in larger numbers than asians or native americans or whoever. They are the group that had the most to lose from the system and largely still has the most to gain. Latinos just arent in the same situation (besides the illegals). And those small percentage points matter given how politically fractured the country is, so if they vote proportionally even slightly less of the time that is significant. But yea theyre not at 20% or anything sure. Hell i didnt even vote last time, im not judging from up high. gently caress this system, Trump 2016
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Philthy posted:China dumb doodoo heads. I thought his line was that China was super smart and taking advantage of America's dumb leaders?
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HappyHippo posted:I thought his line was that China was super smart and taking advantage of America's dumb leaders? They did, by inflating their figures and market and getting greedy american investors to jump in with sacks of cash..that just ended today
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Goddamn ive got a GED and im schooling people on these forums all over the place
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Feather posted:FDR would like to have a word with you. Pshh, war times. That doesn't count.
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If this China crash turns into slowdown or even a recession it will be pretty good for both Trump and Sanders, although bad for the Democrats in the general.
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Isn't there a thread I shitted up or something where you guys can talk and whitesplain to me about what it is to be black?
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Veskit posted:Isn't there a thread I shitted up or something where you guys can talk and whitesplain to me about what it is to be black? yes the bernie vs hillary thread take all of that poo poo there.
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I think Bernie should go play the saxophone on Arsenio Hall, surely then the blacks will understand.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:yes the bernie vs hillary thread take all of that poo poo there. Rather rude to call it poo poo  greatn posted:I think Bernie should go play the saxophone on Arsenio Hall, surely then the blacks will understand.  This is my life.
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Tautologicus posted:Goddamn ive got a GED and im schooling people on these forums all over the place They are called LEDs, lots of people have them. My entire house is LED bulbs.
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Tautologicus posted:Blacks were the largest minority until recently, how is it at all meaningful if they vote in larger numbers than asians or native americans or whoever. They are the group that had the most to lose from the system and largely still has the most to gain. Latinos just arent in the same situation (besides the illegals). Please learn to read a graph. That is participation rate as a percentage.
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Veskit posted:Isn't there a thread I shitted up or something where you guys can talk and whitesplain to me about what it is to be black? Well i wouldnt do that, but i do think its harder to articulate what your own group of people does than it is another group that you can observe from outside. Not necessarily that everything would be 100% correct, but at least it would be articulated. Describing yourself vs another person is the same principle imo.
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greatn posted:They are called LEDs, lots of people have them. My entire house is LED bulbs. Nah i dropped out of high school the day i turned 16
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Politico comments lol http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/elizabeth-warren-reelection-2018-senate-run-121657.html
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Trump has done it again! https://instagram.com/p/6xi2dEGhfn/ EVEN BARB HATES JEB
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a shameful boehner posted:I wasn't aware that Ben Carson was able to draw enough support to ever see a bumper sticker for his campaign out in the wild, especially not in Colorado, but here we are. The same Ben Carson who's been in the top 3 of several polls since the first debate? You should not be surprised by this.
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Tautologicus posted:Well i wouldnt do that, but i do think its harder to articulate what your own group of people does than it is another group that you can observe from outside. Not necessarily that everything would be 100% correct, but at least it would be articulated. Describing yourself vs another person is the same principle imo. There's an entire thread to talk about this. It's right here! http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3736857&pagenumber=24#lastpost If you post about race I'll respond, and a lot of people will get angry, but it's cool dw.
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Montasque posted:Trump has done it again! I was waiting for when this would come otu again
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