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So just gotta come in here to brag about a trade I just made in my keeper dynasty auction league. $300 salary cap. One of the guys in my league said he desperately needed running backs and was willing to make a trade. I offered him Carlos Hyde ($3) for JJ Watt ($19). After much negotiating, I ended up essentially trading Carlos Hyde($3) and Megatron ($81) for Steve Smith ($4) and JJ Watt ($19). I was going to cut Megatron anyway, because his contract is too much, but he actually netted me an extra player. The commissioner was just telling me that it looks like everyone is keeping most of their big salary players, and I have about $200 in cap space to grab all the rookies. I'm hoping someone cuts Jordy so I can stash him later, but regardless, if the cap plays out the way it looks like it is going to, I am going to end up having a majority of the top rookie RB's, WR's and Mariota.
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Aug 24, 2015 19:43
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Is that for Steve Smith SR or Steve Smith?  Also, just grab Winston too if you have a ton of roster spots, you never really know and he COULD be REAL good, outside shot at that though.
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Aug 24, 2015 19:51
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RVProfootballer posted:I mean, you were asking whether you should drop a team's WR1 who is a fantasy WR3 or so, for a 37 year old moving to a new team where he'll likely be the fifth or sixth option in the passing game, at beat. I don't know if there is like anyone I would drop for Reggie Wayne, haha. I was being sincere when I said thanks. That being said Reggie Wayne had more catches and more yards than Kendall Wright last year so it isn't completely asinine.
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Aug 24, 2015 19:51
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The only thing Janis can do is run a fly route and then sometimes body catch it. It would be bizarre to pick him up for fantasy unless you love picking up a guy who went from WR5 to WR4.
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Aug 24, 2015 19:55
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Sataere posted:So just gotta come in here to brag about a trade I just made in my keeper dynasty auction league. $300 salary cap. One of the guys in my league said he desperately needed running backs and was willing to make a trade. I offered him Carlos Hyde ($3) for JJ Watt ($19). After much negotiating, I ended up essentially trading Carlos Hyde($3) and Megatron ($81) for Steve Smith ($4) and JJ Watt ($19). I was going to cut Megatron anyway, because his contract is too much, but he actually netted me an extra player. I must be missing something, because trading Megatron and Hyde for JJ Watt and Steve Smith sounds like a terrible deal. I've never done an auction league though so I guess the value is trading away a player who costs a lot so you can now have more to spend on the next draft?
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Aug 24, 2015 19:55
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Michael Corleone posted:Is that for Steve Smith SR or Steve Smith? I won't grab him because I think he is a piece of poo poo. Also, I already have Rodgers, Bridgewater and Carr. Four quarterbacks is more than enough. I posted my roster a few pages back. It is almost exclusively players in the first three years of the league and their contracts are structured in such a way that I can hold onto them for their entire careers at minimum cost. I was a bit sad to trade Megatron, because I was planning on bidding for him again and hoping to lower his cost. But JJ Watt is the truth and the positional value he gives me is awesome. RCarr posted:I must be missing something, because trading Megatron and Hyde for JJ Watt and Steve Smith sounds like a terrible deal. I've never done an auction league though so I guess the value is trading away a player who costs a lot so you can now have more to spend on the next draft? It is a long term move. Salaries increase 10% every year the first three years. 20% the 4th year. 50% the fifth year. He is almost 1/3 of my cap, so I couldn't keep him without hamstringing myself. Instead, I flipped him and got the best defensive end in football for a cheap contract. Remember that I said this is a dynasty league, so I can hold these guys forever at the right price. Megatron is the wrong side of 30 and I now have almost $200 going into my auction draft in a very talented rookie pool. (Note, I love Megatron and think his current ADP in redraft is a bargain. I just don't believe in spending a 1/3rd of my salary cap on one player.) Sataere fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Aug 24, 2015 |
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Aug 24, 2015 19:56
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Yep. Value is king in auction keepers. And with talent diluted from the pool, auction prices will be sky high for top of the line players, then back to normalish, you can still get deals though.
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Aug 24, 2015 19:57
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kiimo posted:I was being sincere when I said thanks. That being said Reggie Wayne had more catches and more yards than Kendall Wright last year so it isn't completely asinine. Last year Wright had locker clipboard jesus and mett throwing him the ball
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Aug 24, 2015 20:02
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"Salaries increase 10% every year the first three years. 20% the 4th year. 50% the fifth year. " Sounds like a pretty cool league, so to understand this, if a player is 10 in year 4 he goes for 15 in year five, right? Then what happens after that? I am being serious, I am trying to structure my league in a 'dynasty' format, but no one is going to do that, so 4 keepers, and 8 bench in a 10 team league will cut it to 6 if we reach 12 which we will, it was supposed to be ten, but it just took off in less than an hour. Also 2 IR slots, may half that if we go to 12, IDK, thinking about it, I don't think I would. Also, got 2 Co-Coms so if anything has to be done manually it won't be that hard.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:06
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So in a draft this weekend, people went TE crazy and left me with Josh Hill. Any chance Rodgers is a better option there?
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Aug 24, 2015 20:06
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I like Josh Hill in mocks when I just wait for D, K, and TE for last 3 picks, don't know what I will do when it is for real.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:08
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Ben Nevis posted:So in a draft this weekend, people went TE crazy and left me with Josh Hill. Any chance Rodgers is a better option there? How crazy? Is Rodgers the best option out there? Did any of Walker, Eifert, or Owen Daniels go undrafted?
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Aug 24, 2015 20:08
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Speaking of Daniels. It seems like he's criminally undervalued. Didn't he have a decent year on the Texans last year? Peyton has always liked his TE's.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:09
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Michael Corleone posted:Yep. Value is king in auction keepers. And with talent diluted from the pool, auction prices will be sky high for top of the line players, then back to normalish, you can still get deals though. Last year, we reset our league and started from scratch. You should've seen how mad people were getting at me, because I was the only guy who went in with the strategy of grabbing a couple of high cost players to get me going and then just not drafting anyone until people spent most of their money. Then I just targeted rookies and second year players for $1 or $2. Nobody was able to bid more than $2 because they had spent all their money. We will see if they've learned their lesson this year. Two weeks today, I plan on having a starting lineup of the following, with nobody costing more than $10. Gonna brag about some of my keepers from last year. Aaron Rodgers -- $55 Jeremy Hill -- $3 Chris Ivory -- $3 Kelvin Benjamin -- $15 (He will be on IR, but still great value) Jordan Matthews -- $2 Coby Fleener -- $2 Allen Robinson - $5 Tyler Eifert -- $5 Eric Ebron - $3 Kyle Rudolph -- $3 Teddy Bridgewater - $2 Derek Carr - $3 Christine Michael -$3 (I still hold out hope) By targetting Coleman, Abdullah, and Gurley , I could have a beast of an RB core At receiver, I'm owning Cooper and damned the cost, and Agholar should be nice. Kevin White's injury could also be a blessing in disguise, as he can just sit on IR for me. Throw in Mariota for good measure, and I could just be a monster for the next ten years.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:09
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Gobias Ind. posted:How crazy? Is Rodgers the best option out there? Did any of Walker, Eifert, or Owen Daniels go undrafted? All gone. Daniels in particular went super early to a guy citing Daniels as being great under Kubiak in Houston.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:12
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EDIT: ^^^^^^ That guy is right.Michael Corleone posted:"Salaries increase 10% every year the first three years. 20% the 4th year. 50% the fifth year. " It is a pain to keep track of, but you have it right. I grabbed players with that logic. My players under $10 all just go up a $1 for the next three years. We haven't determined what will happen at year 5 yet. I suspect we will start doing 100%, when people start getting mad at me for destroying them. But once that happens, I already have a new rookie pool to cut those pesky $20 players.  RCarr posted:Speaking of Daniels. It seems like he's criminally undervalued. Didn't he have a decent year on the Texans last year? Peyton has always liked his TE's. He absolutely is. Of course, he'll probably get hurt anyway.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:12
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Ben Nevis posted:So in a draft this weekend, people went TE crazy and left me with Josh Hill. Any chance Rodgers is a better option there? He can't be worse. Hill has been a sub package TE only so far in preseason. Ben Watson has looked like he'll out snap Hill the whole way. Are Eifert, Ebron, or ASJ available? I'd just carry two long shot TE1s and drop whoever doesn't produce.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:13
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Who do you think would be better suited to spend time on my bench waiting for an injury, Ronnie Hilman at Denver or Matt Jones at Washington?
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Aug 24, 2015 20:17
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Hillman.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:19
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Idk where all of this hillman hype is coming from.... Anderson is the only back worth owning in Denver baring injury.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:22
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kiimo posted:I was being sincere when I said thanks. That being said Reggie Wayne had more catches and more yards than Kendall Wright last year so it isn't completely asinine. Oh yeah, no worries. On second though I just wanted to give a tiny bit of reasoning behind my simple "nope" 
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Aug 24, 2015 20:23
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Papes posted:Idk where all of this hillman hype is coming from.... Anderson is the only back worth owning in Denver baring injury. Anderson isn't that great either and both will probably run well in a Kubiak offense. Hillman should produce if Anderson goes down, while Matt Jones has to contend with a lovely o-line, lovely qb, and lovely WRs.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:26
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Doltos posted:Anderson isn't that great either and both will probably run well in a Kubiak offense. Hillman should produce if Anderson goes down, while Matt Jones has to contend with a lovely o-line, lovely qb, and lovely WRs. Anderson was actually one of the highest rated running backs by pff last season.... while hillman and ball graded out horribly
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Aug 24, 2015 20:28
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Sataere posted:Christine Michael -$3 (I still hold out hope) 
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Aug 24, 2015 20:29
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Papes posted:Idk where all of this hillman hype is coming from.... Anderson is the only back worth owning in Denver baring injury. Hillman is a much better option than Matt Jones. The guy who asked even specifically said who would you rather stash while waiting for an injury. I'm a confident owner of CJ Anderson, and it's still a no-brainer.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:30
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Papes posted:Anderson was actually one of the highest rated running backs by pff last season.... while hillman and ball graded out horribly So was Zac Stacy two years ago. You have to look at context behind stats.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:38
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Plus I keep reading disturbing things where Matt Jones needs to mentally prepare to run hard or some poo poo.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:38
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Zac Stacy sucked though? Anderson had a like a 8 game stretch as a top NFL running back.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:38
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RCarr posted:Zac Stacy sucked though? Anderson had a like a 8 game stretch as a top NFL running back. Zac Stacy is now fighting for a spot on the Jets roster, behind Chris Ivory and Stevan Ridley. There's little to suggest he'll make it.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:40
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Ayudo posted:He can't be worse. Hill has been a sub package TE only so far in preseason. Ben Watson has looked like he'll out snap Hill the whole way. Donnell as well.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:43
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Doltos posted:So was Zac Stacy two years ago. You have to look at context behind stats. Zac Stacy's only relevant fantasy season was his rookie year so I'm not sure what you're getting at honestly.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:44
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You guys keep mentioning Zac Stacy's name and it is starting to get hurtful. I took great pride in being the goon who gave him the "Neck Stacy" nom de guerre before he sunk my season the following year.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:46
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Look I'm not saying CJ Anderson is bad in any way. I'm pondering that if CJ were to be out Hillman would be the guy and he'd be more valuable than Matt Jones who is big and fast and apparently awful somehow. quote:During full-contact practices during training camp, Jones hasn’t generated the yards after contact that coaches know he is capable of producing. At times, he has gotten stopped in the backfield, and other times after minimal gains. That is something I find disturbing.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:46
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Zac Stacy is now fighting for a spot on the Jets roster, behind Chris Ivory and Stevan Ridley. There's little to suggest he'll make it. This was pretty much what I was saying.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:49
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:facepalm: I'm not saying Zac Stacy is a fantasy relevant RB this year, I'm saying lots of RBs have topped statistics in the past and crashed and burned the next year.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:52
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Neither hillman or jones are startable players unless an injury happens. In the event of injuries Hillman would be the safer option as he is in a much better offense. Matt Jones provides more upside though as he would get goal line carries that hillman probably wouldn't in addition to being the lead back.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:53
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Hand Row posted:The only thing Janis can do is run a fly route and then sometimes body catch it. It would be bizarre to pick him up for fantasy unless you love picking up a guy who went from WR5 to WR4. I'm hearing rumblings that Ty Montgomery is above him anyway, and the only reason why Janis is even in consideration, is because he's been playing Jordy's spot with the 2s
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Aug 24, 2015 20:54
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Doltos posted::facepalm: I'm not saying Zac Stacy is a fantasy relevant RB this year, I'm saying lots of RBs have topped statistics in the past and crashed and burned the next year. Zac Stacy graded out poorly because he was an inefficient volume runner though?
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Aug 24, 2015 20:54
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Sataere posted:Christine Michael -$3 (I still hold out hope) He's getting outplayed by a UDFA rookie and Seattle probably isn't keeping 4 RBs. The dream is dying.
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Papes posted:Zac Stacy graded out poorly because he was an inefficient volume runner though? That's all well and good but PFF even made a loving article about how great Zac Stacy's stats were rookie year (but did concede he ended on a down note). https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/05/29/secret-superstars-2014-rams/
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