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PerrineClostermann posted:I've finally fully-upgraded my New York, and I feel like I have a BB that can somewhat reliably citadel cruisers. Is there a set of guides or resources that tell you where to shoot ships? Coming from Tanks, it's really weird not knowing where to shoot/aim. I made a small tutorial on aiming with battleships against cruisers at mid tier. I dont know how well it works with Japanese BB but its pretty good for US ones.
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Aug 24, 2015 12:12
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Hazdoc posted:How surprising. Of the top 10 boats with the highest win rates, 6 of them are CVs. The top 12 survival rates are CVs. I'll say nothing more on the matter. Of course CVs are going to have the highest survival rates, they're ships meant to be played as far away from the gun battles as possible because they can't defend themselves, and this is a game where every battle mode has capture the point as a method of victory.
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Aug 24, 2015 12:26
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Hazdoc posted:Well, its coming sooner than I thought. Can't wait! Do they have detailed patch notes out yet?
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Aug 24, 2015 12:41
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NTRabbit posted:Of course CVs are going to have the highest survival rates, they're ships meant to be played as far away from the gun battles as possible because they can't defend themselves, and this is a game where every battle mode has capture the point as a method of victory. I would be fine with that, but that, coupled with their high average damage, high win rates, etc... you don't see a pattern? inkwell posted:Do they have detailed patch notes out yet? Not yet.
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Aug 24, 2015 12:42
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Hazdoc posted:I would be fine with that, but that, coupled with their high average damage, high win rates, etc... you don't see a pattern? Yea it's as if they don't want us to bother playing anything else. Only they made carrier boring as gently caress to play. Might be better with the CV vs CV rebalance patch as it is still CV > all.
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Aug 24, 2015 12:52
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Getting rid of the ability to drop torps 5 feet from your ship would help.
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Aug 24, 2015 13:14
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Are they nerfing the Myoko? I just got it  and it doesn't seem OP.
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PirateBob posted:Are they nerfing the Myoko? I just got it It isn't OP but it has better guns than the lackluster Ibuki and must therefore be nerfed. :wargaming: Stats on AA DPS: 
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Aug 24, 2015 14:02
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Regarde Aduck posted:Getting rid of the ability to drop torps 5 feet from your ship would help. Seriously. I had a dude flying two torp wings on top of each other. He just went around dropping 12 torps at point blank range on everything. If you didn't make a nice AA ball, there's literally nothing you can do to stop being one-shot.
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Aug 24, 2015 14:28
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Regarde Aduck posted:Getting rid of the ability to drop torps 5 feet from your ship would help. I was in my Arkansas Beta and using an island for what I thought was cover, thinking that they cant launch from the island side, they'll have to fly around and launch from seaward. Nope; :wargaming:. The CV driver dropped his torpedoes in like the 20 feet of water between my BB and the island, giving me 2 or 3 hits.
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Aug 24, 2015 15:10
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MoraleHazard posted:I was in my Arkansas Beta and using an island for what I thought was cover, thinking that they cant launch from the island side, they'll have to fly around and launch from seaward. Nope; :wargaming:. The CV driver dropped his torpedoes in like the 20 feet of water between my BB and the island, giving me 2 or 3 hits. Well, using an island as cover is kinda silly since it restricts your range of freedom of maneuver. Putting off a torp bomber squadron requires a fair amount of effort, but it can be done. You need your speed up and you need to be paying that torp bomber squad your undivided attention (as the CV pilot is doing likewise, microing that manual drop). The only real counter to torp bombers though is to hope your team has a carrier with fighters that is actually keeping the fighters as air cover for your BB stack.
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Aug 24, 2015 15:26
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Your application is still bugged Sporks.
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Aug 24, 2015 15:48
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Maybe if the Japanese used their ace Zero fighter planes to spot DDs at cap points, the Pacific Theatre would have ended differently.
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Aug 24, 2015 16:24
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So I was looking at the plans for the future tech trees and I stumbled across the N-3 class battleship. 3x3 18" main battery, 16x2 6" secondary. I look forward to it (in late 2016).
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Aug 24, 2015 17:33
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Hazdoc posted:I would be fine with that, but that, coupled with their high average damage, high win rates, etc... you don't see a pattern? So a game that is trying to at least semi-realistically model WW2 era naval battles has aircraft carriers as the top dogs? How did Wargaming get so close to this kind of accuracy?
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Aug 24, 2015 19:30
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Aug 24, 2015 20:39
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Foxtrot_13 posted:So a game that is trying to at least semi-realistically model WW2 era naval battles has aircraft carriers as the top dogs? I mean if they want historical accuracy, they'd be spot on. Except for the whole arbitrary point where ships blow up, no ammo limit on ships, no worries about operational range, crew, etc. So, barring this being a historical recreation, some balance would be nice.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:44
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TSBX posted:How big is a mini map square in KM? roughly 4km.
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Hazdoc posted:I mean if they want historical accuracy, they'd be spot on. Except for the whole arbitrary point where ships blow up, no ammo limit on ships, no worries about operational range, crew, etc. So, barring this being a historical recreation, some balance would be nice. Not to mention Battleship = Cruiser = Destroyer in term of power.
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Aug 24, 2015 20:51
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Hazdoc posted:I mean if they want historical accuracy, they'd be spot on. Except for the whole arbitrary point where ships blow up, no ammo limit on ships, no worries about operational range, crew, etc. So, barring this being a historical recreation, some balance would be nice. I don't get the argument that a game shouldn't be balanced for historical reasons when it is a game played for fun either, but at least ships blowing up is not arbitrary speaking from a historical viewpoint.
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Aug 24, 2015 21:07
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Junkozeyne posted:I don't get the argument that a game shouldn't be balanced for historical reasons when it is a game played for fun either, but at least ships blowing up is not arbitrary speaking from a historical viewpoint. Yeah, I'm just mentioning how ships blow up when their HP hits zero, not taking into account what shell did that last hit, be it a dinky HE shell hitting the top of a battleships superstructure that's already burnt to a crisp from multiple fires before, or a carrier being able to eat 5 torpedoes and keep operating as if nothing is wrong. Also, how one of the ship's HP pools can run out, causing an amusing situation where you drain the bow of the ship of HP, then hit the bow with 20 torpedoes, none of which do any damage.
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Hazdoc posted:Yeah, I'm just mentioning how ships blow up when their HP hits zero, not taking into account what shell did that last hit, be it a dinky HE shell hitting the top of a battleships superstructure that's already burnt to a crisp from multiple fires before, or a carrier being able to eat 5 torpedoes and keep operating as if nothing is wrong. Also, how one of the ship's HP pools can run out, causing an amusing situation where you drain the bow of the ship of HP, then hit the bow with 20 torpedoes, none of which do any damage. About the last, ships have actually gotten their bows shot entirely off and survived.
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xthetenth posted:About the last, ships have actually gotten their bows shot entirely off and survived. I'm sure they weren't very combat capable afterwards, though. Though if they were, that'd be pretty badass. Though the same thing can be applied to the stern, the midsection, or the superstructure. The torpedo example doesn't work in the midsection (or superstructure for obvious reasons, FLYING TORPEDOES), though, as the midsection always takes a specific percentage of damage from torpedoes, equal to the ship's torpedo defense. Taking a bunch of 16 inch shells (that don't citadel, as those always do damage), though... Hazdoc fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Aug 24, 2015 |
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Aug 24, 2015 21:46
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wdarkk posted:Your application is still bugged Sporks. I opened a ticket on Saturday but nothing from support yet. Meanwhile I can still add new members.
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Aug 24, 2015 22:02
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World of Warships: You might see me in the straits but nigga you dont know me.
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Servicio en Espanol posted:I didn't care for the Cleveland because it felt like the shells were basically being lobbed underhanded. They are actually true to reality, I looked up the gun specs and did the math and they are actually that slow in real life...
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Washout posted:They are actually true to reality, I looked up the gun specs and did the math and they are actually that slow in real life... I don't have the Cleveland yet, but one thing i know is that almost all of the guns in this game have way too high shell velocity. A simple look at the time of flight calculations on the in game hud will show you many of the guns with flatter trajectories are travelling at speeds approaching 2 km/s. That's around double what they should be doing. As for the cleveland's its possible that they are relatively slower than the other ingame guns, but in fact they are proboably way too fast like most others in absolute terms.
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inkwell posted:I don't have the Cleveland yet, but one thing i know is that almost all of the guns in this game have way too high shell velocity. A simple look at the time of flight calculations on the in game hud will show you many of the guns with flatter trajectories are travelling at speeds approaching 2 km/s. That's around double what they should be doing. As for the cleveland's its possible that they are relatively slower than the other ingame guns, but in fact they are proboably way too fast like most others in absolute terms. The scale of the game is deliberately off so that it's more fun than firing 20 salvoes with over 1 minute flight time before landing the first hit of an hour long engagement. And honestly, while I hate going against Clevelands since I seem to be permanently on fire and losing 3k HP every 6 seconds to HE shells, when I'm trying to use mine at more than about 8km range my accuracy is pathetic.
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At what tier does it actually become cost-effective to pick up the upgrades on ships? I'm feeling like it's around tier 5, but half a million credits still seems like a lot for some reason. Is there a consensus as to which ones are must have or idiot traps or anything?
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Ones to take are reduced engine damage chance on destroyers (and reduced detection range when you get it), accuracy on IJN BBs, and it's usually a good idea to get AA gun range on cruisers. Optionally secondary gun range on Nagato onwards. Never take the spotting upgrade because all it does is let you visually see enemies that others have spotted but are outside of your range. I don't think anything else makes enough difference to be a must have. Bear in mind the turret turn speed one is double edged as it reduces your RoF.
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The one that reduces the main battery chance for critical damage also reduces your chance of getting detonated. At T5+, many ships have the option of getting the mod that increases your main battery's accuracy (for US BBs, this is range instead). The upgrade that reduces rudder shift time is very good, or you can forgo it and take the damage control mods that reduce the chance of fire/flooding, and the duration of those DoTs. The concealment mod at T8+ is very pricey, but absolutely necessary on DDs, and at T9 you get the OTHER DPS styled mod for ships, which is also good. Basically, splurge on mods if you want an edge and can stomach the credit cost. They resell fairly ok with the ship once you're done, but so long as you're grinding the ship, you get the bonus, which is nice. Be aware that a lot of people will be buying them too, so you may be playing catch up if you don't spend the credits. Don't take the mod that increases your turret traverse speed, as it also "increases reload time", which actually means, it increases how LONG it takes for your guns to reload, an effective nerf to your firing speed. The module that decreases your turret traverse speed INCREASES your firing rate, on the flip side, but that one is only available at T9, I believe.
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so the Aoba is so much fun at citadeling everything in sight. However, gently caress the cleveland forever.
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Kinetica posted:so the Aoba is so much fun at citadeling everything in sight. The Aoba is great at everything until a Cleveland or 2 Omahas show up. The turret rotation speed really becomes an issue when trying to dodge an orange wall every 8 seconds. inkwell posted:Well, using an island as cover is kinda silly since it restricts your range of freedom of maneuver. Putting off a torp bomber squadron requires a fair amount of effort, but it can be done. You need your speed up and you need to be paying that torp bomber squad your undivided attention (as the CV pilot is doing likewise, microing that manual drop). Problem with having to focus on bombers is that while a carrier pilot is doing that, he generally doesn't have to worry about other things. Any other ship has a lot of other things to deal with.
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Night10194 posted:Wait, that mod INCREASES reload time? Yes. AKA, don't take it, unless you like slower firing, faster turning guns.
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Hazdoc posted:Yes. Well, gently caress. Time to remove it from everything I put it on.
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EDIT: Reading is really, really hard.
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Aug 25, 2015 02:13
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It IS there, it says +10% Loading Time, but you think 'Oh, +, this must be a bonus.' Jokes on them, I'm not paying them poo poo.
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When removing a mod, you have to right click it to get the option to destroy the mod. You cannot sell mods unless they are being sold along with your ship (when selling your ship, select the "Sell" instead of "Demount" option).
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