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Irish Joe posted:It took three minutes for viewers to learn everything they need to know about Starlord in Guardians of the Galaxy. Compared to that, Fear the Walking Dead is the loving War and Peace of characterization. Guess what? Fear the Walking Dead is not a 100 minute theatrical release.
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xcore posted:Guess what? Fear the Walking Dead is not a 100 minute theatrical release. Guess what? Irish Joe is a bad gimmick poster.
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Aug 25, 2015 03:51
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Any word on Public Morals? It looks solid enough.
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Aug 25, 2015 04:02
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James Woods Fan posted:Any word on Public Morals? It looks solid enough. it has good previews, but theres no leak yet and it doesnt air until tomorrow
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corn in the bible posted:it has good previews, but theres no leak yet and it doesnt air until tomorrow That's the TNT show yeah? Do they have a track record with TV shows or they pulling an AMC and trying to get into the game?
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xcore posted:That's the TNT show yeah? Do they have a track record with TV shows or they pulling an AMC and trying to get into the game? their track record is making thousands of forgettable cop shows
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^^^^Mr Robot being on USA has made me willing to give new shows on regurely, previously poo poo-for-original-programming cable channels a chance nowJames Woods Fan posted:Any word on Public Morals? It looks solid enough. It looks like it has potential to be really good as long as it's period setting/world-building, characters, dialogue, etc feel authentic to it's times, and not just like modern people nostalgia-larping like a lot of other period shows come off as savinhill fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Aug 25, 2015 |
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I haven't finished it yet but yeah Mr. Robot being on USA is weird as gently caress because it's better than most HBO/Showtime original programming, which is like... whoah. I just wish USA would start airing old Space Ghost again.
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savinhill posted:^^^^Mr Robot being on USA has made me willing to give new shows on regurely, previously poo poo-for-original-programming cable channels a chance now Spartacus/Starz, Buffy/WB, Impractical Jokers/TruTV, Banshee/Cinemax and Unreal/Lifetime did it for me first, but yeah, I agree. I never watched them but Monk, White Collar and Burn Notice were on USA. Those shows are kind of OK yeah? Looten Plunder fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Aug 25, 2015 |
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Aug 25, 2015 05:01
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Leverage was on TNT and CW has iZombie.
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xcore posted:Spartacus/Starz, Buffy/WB, Impractical Jokers/TruTV, Banshee/Cinemax and Unreal/Lifetime did it for me first, but yeah, I agree. Mr Robot is balls to the wall awesome, while USA is the "those shows are kind of OK yeah?" network is actually a really good way of putting it
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Aug 25, 2015 06:06
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I haven't watched Complications yet but I assume it's much darker than typical USA fare, and they have Colony coming up in the fall, which looks like a thriller/sci-fi drama about occupation/collaboration/family and all those other themes rather than about a handsome white man doing the same police/doctor/lawyer thing every week.
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Aug 25, 2015 06:09
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Mr. Robot and WWE Raw is all I can watch on USA. I never cared for any of their "Beach Cop" or "Spy Doctor" shows over the last decade. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDxVi8gbHZ4
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precision posted:I haven't finished it yet but yeah Mr. Robot being on USA is weird as gently caress because it's better than most HBO/Showtime original programming, which is like... whoah. TV has gotten so god drat good that there are tons of channels out there with at least one show that could easily be on a premium network, and it's awesome. Just out of channels/shows I watch: FX has Fargo and The Americans, USA has Mr. Robot, WGN has Manhattan, NBC has/had Hannibal, SyFy has 12 Monkeys, along with a bunch that I'm sure I'm forgetting. TV's alright these days. xcore posted:I never watched them but Monk, White Collar and Burn Notice were on USA. Those shows are kind of OK yeah? They're basically all inoffensive and entertaining, which is pretty much USA's motto. Monk is kind of a fun goofy show that I somehow always end up watching like 5 episodes of whenever I'm on vacation and it's on TV, White Collar was pretty good but I fell off about 2 seasons in, and Burn Notice was pretty good but I eventually stopped watching like 6 seasons in. Pretty much every USA show follows the same formula of having some big, overarching plotline that's only ever touched on in the season premiere, mid-season finale, and season finales while being by-the-book procedurals the rest of the time. If you want to check one out Suits is pretty good and has some fun characters along with some genuinely funny dialogue. Also you can tell that they felt special for being able to say poo poo because they do it a whole lot in the first season.
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xcore posted:God forbid they try and do some characterisation at the start of new show... Evidently.
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precision posted:I'm actually not defending anime, I'm just saying that anime has a wide range of terribleness and that being anime doesn't mean it has giant robots and teenage ninjas in it. I thought no two animes could be compared to each other though
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Oh for gently caress's sake why argue about anime when you can make fun of me for starting yet another thread (this time for Public Morals, since there seems to be interest).
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First episode of Blunt Talk was awesome (minus one or two exceedingly weak scenes). A Jonathan Ames show through-and-through.
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USA used to have a formula, but they've definitely abandoned for a few years now. The only show that really followed that formula that's still on the air is maybe Royal Pains but I never saw that so its just an assumption. Suits was the first step halfway away from that in that it was darker in tone than most of their stuff but still had a bit of levity to it. Ever since then they've gone in a completely different direction with darker shows to varying success starting with shows like Graceland and Complications before finally getting a legit great show in Mr. Robot. They still do comedies too but more in the traditional sitcom vein instead of their old hour long dramedy formula.
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Escobarbarian posted:That's what I hear, but it's also long as hell. A bit late but I'm watching Legend of Galactic Heroes right now and it's awesome. I'm not anti-anime, but it largely doesn't feel like any other anime. Apart from the space scenes there's no real reason why it couldn't have been live action, 90% of the show is just characters sitting in rooms, talking. This might sound like a lovely, hyperbolic analogy, but it's basically Star Trek crossed with The Wire - a space show about the sociopolitical ramifications of war and power seen from the perspectives of multiple factions, with a pretty large, diverse cast. I don't think it could convert everyone, there are still plenty of weird Japanese/anime affectations like 16-year olds being the smartest, most capable people in the universe, and a lot of soliloquies about fate and rebellion, but contrasted with every other anime it's positively sedate. I'd say give it a go if you like Deep Space Nine or the good parts of BSG, or if you just want a sci-fi show that actually feels very down to earth, which sounds weird considering how ridiculously large scale it is. Keeping in mind it was made in the late 80s (and based on presumably even older novels), it's remarkable how prescient and relevant it is in today's political climate. It's 110 episodes which sounds long, but really since the episodes are only ~20 minutes long that's the equivalent of like 2.5 seasons of any given Star Trek show.
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X-O posted:USA used to have a formula, but they've definitely abandoned for a few years now. The only show that really followed that formula that's still on the air is maybe Royal Pains but I never saw that so its just an assumption. Suits was the first step halfway away from that in that it was darker in tone than most of their stuff but still had a bit of levity to it. Ever since then they've gone in a completely different direction with darker shows to varying success starting with shows like Graceland and Complications before finally getting a legit great show in Mr. Robot. They still do comedies too but more in the traditional sitcom vein instead of their old hour long dramedy formula. I'd argue that TNT's in a similar position now, trying to run shows that have some edge or heat to them but unable to get them to stick in a culturally significant way. (Not that they have to, I understand The Last Ship is a ratings monster.)
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Aug 25, 2015 13:42
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I really didn't give a poo poo about Colony, after sitting through Falling Skies for all these years until I saw that it stars Josh Holloway. I'll watch anything that dude is in.
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Aug 25, 2015 13:48
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GreenNight posted:I really didn't give a poo poo about Colony, after sitting through Falling Skies for all these years until I saw that it stars Josh Holloway. I'll watch anything that dude is in. Unless they manage to out-stupid this week's episode, Falling Skies will be a show I remember for killing off a major character/antagonist after the entire run in 2 minutes with loving exploding video game barrels.
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I haven't watched the episode yet but I know exactly which character you are talking about and that makes me sad.
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DivisionPost posted:I'd argue that TNT's in a similar position now, trying to run shows that have some edge or heat to them but unable to get them to stick in a culturally significant way. Every network is trying to launch its own prestige drama because that's the hot thing nowadays. Ten years ago it was reality shows and five years from now it'll be something different. The problem with TNT isn't that they're producing bad shows per se, but that viewers are more sophisticated than they were 10-15 years ago. Back when The Sopranos was the only prestige drama on television, people didn't think of it as a prestige drama, but simply as a good drama. Over the ensuing 15 years, the curtain has been pulled back and we now know that Prestige Drama is a genre of its own, with it own tropes and ways of telling stories. So where, for a long time, prestige dramas were synonymous with "good," we've reached a point where we can rate prestige dramas against each other instead of against soaps, and network and procedural dramas. There are now good prestige dramas, bad prestige dramas and, in TNT's case, mediocre prestige dramas, and the premiere of every new prestige drama isn't a loving event that needs to be celebrated, because, the truth is, most prestige dramas are absolute poo poo.
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I'm still hype for narcos though because it looks bitchin
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Remember when Falling Skies was supposed to be the sci-fi version of Band of Brothers, and the writers room included guys like Graham Yost, Fred Golan, and Joe Weisberg? You'd think that would go somewhere...
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Actually, what good dramas are on channels besides the premium channels? or were? I'm pretty out of touch wrt television. I haven't even heardof Manhattan and i'd never loving watch wgn otherwise but it looks good so please feel free to sugest stuff you would assume someone would have heard of before, i probably havent.
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corn in the bible posted:Actually, what good dramas are on channels besides the premium channels? or were? I'm pretty out of touch wrt television. I haven't even heardof Manhattan and i'd never loving watch wgn otherwise but it looks good so please feel free to sugest stuff you would assume someone would have heard of before, i probably havent. UnReal. Watch UnReal.
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corn in the bible posted:Actually, what good dramas are on channels besides the premium channels? or were? I'm pretty out of touch wrt television. I haven't even heardof Manhattan and i'd never loving watch wgn otherwise but it looks good so please feel free to sugest stuff you would assume someone would have heard of before, i probably havent. For Network: People really liked the first few seasons of The Good Wife. Also, Person of Interest and Empire have their fans. For regular Cable: Better Call Saul and Fargo are both really good.
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Aug 25, 2015 15:24
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PoI is coming to Netflix in September, with the first three seasons up on the first and the fourth up on like the 22nd.
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Aug 25, 2015 15:25
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Does How To Get Away With Murder count as a drama? I never really watched it but it seemed like it had a lot of buzz last fall / spring.
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Aug 25, 2015 15:31
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corn in the bible posted:Person of Interest is so bad What the gently caress is wrong with your brain.
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corn in the bible posted:Person of Interest is so bad Its a lot like Agents of SHIELD in that it becomes really good if you add enough qualifying terms. You know, the first season is really bad but it sets up a lot of stuff that pays off in the second season and there's a lot of foreshadowing and the fight scenes are really well done on a tv budget Jesus is supposed to act all stiff and no he's not playing the same character from Lost he's just really nuanced and no that's not a crime of the week format but yeah it really is yeah I know that's kind of hammy, but if you can get past all that, its one of the best shows on television.
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Aug 25, 2015 15:56
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PoI only has about 4 bad episodes throughout its entire run, everything else ranges from good to great. The worst being Terra Incognita, the 20th ep of season 4. I personally consider it non-canonical fan fiction.
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Aug 25, 2015 16:10
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Person of Interest is on CBS and that's where that show belongs.
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Aug 25, 2015 16:13
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Mu Zeta posted:Person of Interest is on CBS and that's where that show belongs. CBS is a fine network with a long history of producing high quality, memorable television programs. Irish Joe fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Aug 25, 2015 |
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What I saw of POI indicated it suffers the same problem virtually all network dramas suffer from - they have to write 24 episodes a season, and for the first few seasons need to make it accessible for everyone watching for the 1st time, so you get no real plot progression and crime/monster of the week episodes that get a bit boring after a while. I only have time to watch a few dramas a year, so I pretty much stick to HBO, FX etc and now Mr Robot.
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